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Sat Apr 26, 2014, 08:04 PM

Ayn Rand - Her mentally ill world where good consists of worshiping the one percenters

Over the past year, I've been reading and reviewing Ayn Rand's massive paean to capitalism, Atlas Shrugged. If you're not familiar with the novel, it depicts a world where corporate CEOs and one-percenters are the selfless heroes upon which our society depends, and basically everyone else journalists, legislators, government employees, the poor are the villains trying to drag the rich down out of spite, when we should be kissing their rings in gratitude that they allow us to exist.

Atlas Shrugged is a work of fiction, but as far as many prominent conservatives are concerned, it's sacred scripture. Alan Greenspan was a member of Rand's inner circle, and opposed regulation of financial markets because he believed her dictum that the greed of businessmen was always the public's best protection. Paul Ryan said that he required his campaign staffers to read the book, while Glenn Beck has announced grandiose plans to build his own real-life "Galt's Gulch," the hidden refuge where the book's capitalist heroes go to watch civilization collapse without them.


(The article is 4 pages long, so you'll have to click to read the whole article)

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/top-10-lessons-strange-mirror-universe-ayn-rands-atlas-shrugged

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Reply Ayn Rand - Her mentally ill world where good consists of worshiping the one percenters (Original post)
Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 OP
Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #1
Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #2
TBF Apr 2014 #3
Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #5
flying rabbit Apr 2014 #20
treestar Apr 2014 #4
Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #6
TBF Apr 2014 #13
Initech Apr 2014 #7
octoberlib Apr 2014 #8
Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #9
Kath1 Apr 2014 #10
YoungDemCA Apr 2014 #11
Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #15
Major Nikon Apr 2014 #12
Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #14
Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #16
Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #17
Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #18
Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #19
AnnieBW Apr 2014 #21
Orrex Apr 2014 #22
Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #23

Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 08:14 PM

1. She wrote (badly) bodice rippers for business majors....and idiots.

 

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 08:24 PM

2. A-hole doesn't begin to describe her. Her "writing" would be laughed out of town today. nt

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 08:45 PM

3. Every so often I drag this out - a summary

This was originally on a blog and it has been reprinted in many places - if anyone knows who the original author is please speak up as I don't have a good cite for it anymore:


Atlas Shrugged (by Ayn Rand)
ATLAS SHRUGGED: THE ABRIDGED VERSION (with spoilers)

AYN RAND
Hello, I'm Ayn Rand. I wrote a novel based on my Objectivist philosophy called The Fountainhead, but I don't think 700 pages was quite enough to get my point across, so I will write the exact same novel, only it will take 1100 pages this time.

READERS
Hey, great.

HEROINE
I'm Dagny Taggart. I am a railroad tycoon, woman-in-a-man's-world, stunningly beautiful heroine. I am the only person capable of running this railroad. I am the only woman in the universe worth a damn. I am also the only woman in the universe with a real job. I am basically the only woman in this novel.

LOVE INTEREST #1
I have worshiped you, the only woman in the universe worth a damn, from afar for my whole life.

HEROINE
That's nice.

LOVE INTEREST #2
I have worshiped you, the only woman in the universe worth a damn, naked on the forest floor. Yet I will nobly step aside in the name of noble idealism, despite the fact that I love you and want you, the only woman in the universe worth a damn, desperately.

HEROINE
Okay.

LOVE INTEREST #3
I worship you, the only woman in the universe worth a damn. Let us have creepy rape fantasy sex now. I will not ask permission to do all these kinky things to you, but luckily you want to be forced into all the kinky things, you dirty bitch.

HEROINE
This is clearly true love! Stick it in me.

ALL
Who is John Galt?

AYN RAND
I am not telling. Instead, please listen to someone pontificate about my Objectivist philosophy for a while.

SOMEONE
(Pontificates)

VILLAINS
There are many of us, but we are all exactly the same. We are caricatures of evil socialists and embodiments of pure evil. Let us create a perfect socialist world order ruled by the inept! We all suck! Socialism sucks! Ha ha!

HEROES
We are all exactly the same. We are noble and perfect and have very angular and insolent faces. We can read each other's minds and the minds of everyone else in this novel, leaving less room for misunderstanding and more room for pontificating. And we are all in love with Dagny Taggart, the only woman in the universe worth a damn.

ALL
Who is John Galt?

VILLAIN
(Threatens hero)

HERO
If it's heads, I will gaze apathetically. If it's tails, I will laugh heartily.

VILLAIN
Although these are the only two things any of you heroes have done for the past 800 pages, I am shocked at this response! How could you! How dare you!?!

HERO
I will now pontificate about Ayn Rand's philosophy. It has been at least 50 pages since you've heard it ...

AYN RAND:
It is so convenient that all of my heroes are in perfect agreement about my philosophy so that their pontificating is so interchangeable.

ALL:
Who is John Galt?

JOHN GALT:
Hello. In this, the culmination of all the pontificating, I will explain Ayn Rand's philosophy for a full 57 pages. No, I am not kidding. This one monologue will last for 57 pages. Oh and also, I love Dagny.

DAGNY:
I love you too. Man, this is really going to suck for Love Interest #3.

LOVE INTEREST #3:
Despite my passionate love for you and enjoyment of our rape sex, and the fact that there is no other woman on earth worth a damn, and the fact that I sacrificed my life's passion on your behalf, and that I spent my entire fortune to get a divorce to be with you, I will now nobly step aside in the name of noble idealism.

DAGNY:
Great! I will miss our creepy rape sex. Farewell.

LOVE INTEREST #3:
Bye.

READER:
Wait, what?

ATLAS:
(Shrugs)

THE END

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Response to TBF (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 09:12 PM

5. "HERO If it's heads, I will gaze apathetically. If it's tails, I will laugh heartily. " ROFLMAO!

ATLAS:
(Shrugs)

Perfect! That sums up Ayn Rand's writing.

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Response to TBF (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 09:12 PM

20. Thanks for sparing me the trouble of reading it...

...Nah... I wasn't gonna read it.

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 08:48 PM

4. She was so totally simple minded

One track, single mind with no room for reality. No wonder it appeals to right wingers.

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Response to treestar (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 09:18 PM

6. Exactly! nt

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Response to treestar (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 08:12 AM

13. Yup, you nailed it. nt

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 09:23 PM

7. The three worst words ever written: "greed is good".

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 09:28 PM

8. When I was 17 an older friend gave me a copy of The Foutainhead to read. I'd never heard of Ayn Rand

Worst book ever. I couldn't even finish it. Rand's crappy philosophy aside, she's a horrible writer.

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 09:33 PM

9. I agree. Same thing happened to me. I could barely get through one. Like having a root canal

She was a horrible writer, boring, dull, an idiot who understood human nature about as much as a rock does, and of course the same has got to apply to her followers.

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 11:29 PM

10. I forced myself to read Atlas Shrugged

It was a horrible reading experience. I'm so at odds with her mindset... ugh! Depressing that there are those who share her simple-minded ideology (or idiocy).

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 11:38 PM

11. IMHO, calling Rand mentally ill is misleading and a bit insulting...

 

....to the many good, kind people who struggle with mental illness of one sort or another.

Ayn Rand was not a good person, and that is what matters-promoting vile right-wing ideology through her writings and interviews. Par for the course for the Right and their heroes, though.

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Response to YoungDemCA (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 03:29 PM

15. My apologies to the mentally ill, for comparing them with an evil a-hole: Ayn Rand. nt

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 11:40 PM

12. Clarence Thomas requires his male staff members to read Atlas Shrugged

...and his female staff members to watch Long Dong Silver.

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #12)

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 03:27 PM

14. Every discriminated group has a tiny handful that will sell out the group to the group's enemy -

perhaps there's a psychological term for those few people that engage in full-fledged self-abhorrance?

Anyway, one of those is Clarence Thomas. He fits the bill perfectly.

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 04:56 PM

16. Rand was a psychopath

and her "philosophy" is an attempt to create more psychopaths.

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Response to Prophet 451 (Reply #16)

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 05:27 PM

17. And her fans are psychopaths. Who can uphold such thinking but a psychopath? nt

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #17)

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 06:04 PM

18. And those who didn't understand her

Defending Rand's work to a majority audience requires disclaiming what she actually said. So the only people who agree with her and psychopaths and those who think they understood but didn't.

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Response to Prophet 451 (Reply #18)

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 06:38 PM

19. Yes. She was an early L. Ron Hubbard. Narcissists & jack-of-all-trades scammers and fraudsters...

with no sense of morality whatsoever, who tried every which way to get famous by performing as an actor/actress - writing books, creating a religious philosophy, and tooting his and her own horn to get followers for his (and her!) cult. L. Ron Hubbard and Ayn Rand led parallel lives at different times.

She doesn't piss me off as much as her nutjob fans. She was a psycho, and probably could've used some medication and a bit of therapy, but her fans, unless they're narcissistic psychos too, what's their story? Just plain old Repukes?

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 10:00 PM

21. One Problem With This Scenario Is

That there are a lot more people with MBAs and business backgrounds than there were in Rand's time. If the CEOs of major corporations decided to "Go Galt", the power vacuum would be less than a hand-vac. There are literally thousands of people who could step in and run companies as well as, or better, than the 1%ers.

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Mon Apr 28, 2014, 07:59 AM

22. People forget her other fine works

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Response to Orrex (Reply #22)

Mon Apr 28, 2014, 12:15 PM

23. "Allen meets a beautiful amnesiac who fears postmen..." lol nt

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