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Now, news is slowly surfacing that shows the US Department of Justice may be strong-arming banks into banning porn stars.
Its called Operation Choke Point, and it has nothing to do with deep-throating.
Instead, its a targeted effort to shut down as many as 30 separate industries by making it impossible for them to access banking services.
In a Wall Street Journal op-ed Thursday, American Banking Association CEO Frank Keating wrote that the Justice Department is telling bankers to behave like policemen and judges.
Operation Choke Point is asking banks to identify customers who may be breaking the law or simply doing something government officials dont like, Keating wrote. Banks must then choke off those customers access to financial services, shutting down their accounts.
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https://news.vice.com/articles/is-the-doj-forcing-banks-to-terminate-the-accounts-of-porn-stars?utm_source=vicefbus
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)All that extra stuff you have to now provide to open an account, lends itself to freezing your accounts when you do something unwelcome by the government.
All large cash transactions are reported.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Here is another case of mission creep:
Remember that originally we said we could hold people who were Al-Quada.
Now seems we can Gitmo people who we think are HELPING Al-Quada AND the Taliban.
again, no proof needed, no defense allowed.
CincyDem
(6,353 posts)...Nah...what was I thinking. Government officials don't "don't like" that kind of activity.
TheBlackAdder
(28,184 posts)The word "who MAY be breaking the law" would encompass many people.
Of course, we're supposed to believe that you are innocent UNTIL proven guilty.
But this does not seem to be the case anymore.
Make7
(8,543 posts)... then they .... shut themselves down?
Orrex
(63,203 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Generally, high-risk transactions occur when the consumer does not have a familiarity with the merchant, or when the quality of the goods and services being sold is uncertain. Activities involving purchases made over the telephone or on the Internet tend to be riskier in that the consumer cannot fully examine or evaluate the product or service purchased. Similarly, the consumer may not be able to verify the identity or legitimacy of the person or organization making the sale.
Some merchant categories that have been associated with high-risk activity include, but are not limited to:
Ammunition Sales
Cable Box De-scramblers
Coin Dealers
Credit Card Schemes
Credit Repair Services
Dating Services
Debt Consolidation Scams
Drug Paraphernalia
Escort Services
Firearms Sales
Fireworks Sales
Get Rich Products
Government Grants
Home-Based Charities
Life-Time Guarantees
Life-Time Memberships
Lottery Sales
Mailing Lists/Personal Info
Money Transfer Networks
On-line Gambling
PayDay Loans
Pharmaceutical Sales
Ponzi Schemes
Pornography
Pyramid-Type Sales
Racist Materials
Surveillance Equipment
Telemarketing
Tobacco Sales
Travel Clubs
http://www.fdic.gov/regulations/examinations/supervisory/insights/sisum11/managing.html
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Fireworks Sales & Pornography ...really?
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Romney Admin doing this?
Orrex
(63,203 posts)pscot
(21,024 posts)looks like who's who of bunko artistry.
Orrex
(63,203 posts)They finnally put away the biggest spokesperson Kevin Trudeau..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2582977/TV-pitchman-Kevin-Trudeau-gets-10-year-sentence.html
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)This has nothing to do with Kevin Trudeau, he had his day in court.
Government shutting down people's accounts or seizing people's property without trial is disgusting. I don't care who the target is, EVERYONE deserves a fair trial in court.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)apparently you've never been a victim of charlatan.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)And not every business on that list are scam related.
Again, firework sellers and pornography ...really?
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)state police generally sit on the border watching those going and coming. We have people connected to Organized Crime that traffic in them. Possession of more than $50.00 dollars worth is a felony in NY. Out if state Fireworks Business's target residents and entice them via mailings.
Pornography your really joking....it ain't Playboy or Penthouse their looking for. There is international traffic and trade in child pornography among other stuff.
Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)I have a friend who works at the local Port with the ILA. He and I were talking, and he told me about the new requirements for the TWIC (Transportation Worker Identification Credential) as mandated by the DHS. It seems that you must surrender your TWIC card if you are accused of one of several crimes. Including Fraud, Theft, and the usual litany of Felonies. He told me he had discussed it with his lawyer when he was doing something unrelated to that, and the Lawyer said that the accusation shouldn't be enough. We both agreed it SHOULDN'T be enough, but apparently it was.
Apparently, in the 21st Century, we can't wait for the conviction, and even the RICO process of the 1980's is just too slow, we must act now, before any facts are in, much less all the facts and the judgement of a jury.
Lurker Deluxe
(1,036 posts)I have a TWIC card, and the rules are pretty straight forward.
http://www.tsa.gov/stakeholders/frequently-asked-questions-0#disqualification
Conviction for one of the following felonies is disqualifying if the applicant was convicted, pled guilty (including 'no contest'), or found not guilty by reason of insanity within 7 years of the date of the TWIC application; OR if the applicant was released from prison after conviction within 5 years of the date of the application. The applicant may apply for a waiver.
You can not have your TWIC card revoked because someone "accuses" you of something ... we would simply accuse all of our competitors of doing something. Something is not right with this story.
madokie
(51,076 posts)He did a lot of damage to our state when he was governor and most of it was underhanded shit. Lying the whole time.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,076 posts)... I was thinking the same thing. I would like to see a source other than a Keating tell me what is legal and not legal in the banking industry.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)We need the banks to be owned by the government, so that the people of the United States (at least those few of us willing to follow every issue and vote in every election) will control this important industry via management by our elected officials.
Then WE can say "do business with EVERYONE!" (unless a bunch of bluenoses, like religious conservatives and anti-porn feminists end up winning the election, of course).
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)This looks like small fish busts. Can't wait until I get TBTF!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)This is why911. This is the reason. The fake elections of 2000 and 2004. And the other stuff too crazy to mention.
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)because I wasn't a porn star.
Then they choked off the escort services, but I didn't say anything because I don't work for or use escort services...
rocktivity
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)shut down the lives of people who have sex on camera.
Less and less need for the government we have.