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[WillyT]

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[Siwsan]

1. Not to mention if you have friends or family in the path of the storms and need someone to "talk" to

or to lean on. Last year there were numerous tornados in areas surrounding where my sister lives. I was posting on DU and got so much support from people. It really, really helped keep me sane.

[WillyT]

4. EXACTLY !!!

[Mnemosyne]

2. Exactly. Thank you. Nadin sure takes a beating here, disgusting.

[WillyT]

3. Agreed... She's Providing An Invaluable Service...

And... She's the real deal when it comes to disaster relief, and warnings that one might wanna look into.

[Siwsan]

6. Absolutely. She was a great resource, for me, during our massive snow storm

Lots of great information and support. I give her high props.

[Mnemosyne]

9. Nadin is amazing! Breaks my heart when posters treat her so viciously.

[WillyT]

11. Mine Too...

So called "Liberals"...

[Mnemosyne]

15. Things sure have changed in the 10 years I've been here.

Of course, much of the US is meaner too...

DU helps me remember there are still many good people in the world.

[WillyT]

18. Yeah... It's Easy... To Be An Anonymous Asshole...

[Mnemosyne]

31. If they are so proud of their cruelty they should put up a pic, so we can see whom we're dealing

with. Cowards, imho.

I much prefer anonymous sweetheart's postings!

[RKP5637]

29. There are some very mean people here! n/t

[ChisolmTrailDem]

73. Those posters can be treated just as viciously. Don't forget that. nt

[QC]

109. Sadly, no. See post #30. n/t

[ChisolmTrailDem]

111. I'll take my chances. I've already shut them down a few times and I'm learning where the line is.

I'm already well into giving them a taste of their own medicine and haven't been hidden yet, having survived a couple of close calls already.

[QC]

108. True. Unfortunately, the one person who could do something about

the bullies and stalkers refuses to. They seem to enjoy some sort of special protection here.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

114. That nothing is done, nor has been done for years going back to my lurking days when I was

sure people here would be disappeared during the bush years and I was hesitant to end up on "The List", says volumes in the face of so many comparatively benign victims being TS'ed and PPR'ed.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

112. Yep, and when I see them doing that I will be there. nt

[KamaAina]

171. She actually threatened to leave once because of it

[Mnemosyne]

175. I am grateful she did not. nt

[Kali]

5. talking about what they are going through is not even on the same planet

as copy and paste weather info spammed to GD.

[WillyT]

7. So... Letting The Rest Of Us Know, What Is Going On In Our Own Country...

Possibly Harming/Killing Our Fellow Citizens Is... What ??? Cut & Paste ???

Maybe you'd rather talk circumcisions ?

[darkangel218]

12. Ridiculous, isnt it

[WillyT]

14. Yep...

[think4yourself]

51. Hide thread then? nt

[Kali]

54. nah

just the occasional OPINION given when I occasionally run across silliness in GD. mostly I don't even read it. I do check the Latest page and that is how I usually get sucked into the vortex.

there are a few "stars of DU" who seem to need a LOT of attention, so I sometimes participate in giving them some.

[pintobean]

58. +1

"stars of DU"

[rhett o rick]

151. So you guys think that you are here to "giving them some" to specific "stars".

What do you want to see happen? Maybe make them cry and leave the playground? It's interesting that a number of you guys pick on this particular poster. Kinda, gang up maybe to drive her out. Cleanse DU of the "stars", is that it?

[SidDithers]

169. +1...

Sid

[ChisolmTrailDem]

74. You got a problem with it? Hide the thread and move on. nt

Last edited Tue Apr 29, 2014, 11:36 AM - Edit history (1)

[pintobean]

83. If you have a problem with that member

maybe you should use the ignore feature and move on.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

85. I don't put people on ignore and I don't have a problem with the poster...

Now what?

[pintobean]

88. Then, maybe you shouldn't be barking orders at her.

Maybe she doesn't use the hide thread feature. Like you, she gets to choose how she uses DU and its features.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

90. I'll do whatever I want to do. No maybes about it. nt

[pintobean]

91. I see you understand.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

92. Oh, I understand alright. I understand exactly what's going on. nt

[rhett o rick]

99. Is that what you do? Is that what you did with Aerows? Seems to me like things

here are starting to get nasty.

[pintobean]

106. I think you totally missed the point.

I was showing Chisolm how to get his message across without making profanity laced demands.

Aerows attacked me and got a post hidden. You're saying I should have put her on ignore to prevent that? That doesn't make any sense.

Things always get nasty in meta call-out threads. You know that. I'm not one who got nasty, though.

[pintobean]

119. I did anyway

but it had nothing to do with fucking.
Get my point?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

120. No you didn't show me anything - except your agenda. And I do get the point of

your contribution to this thread, which so far has been a huge waste of time reading.

[pintobean]

124. I'll tell you something

and you can take it for whatever you think it's worth, which I'm sure you will. I've seen a lot of people here take the same attitude that you've declared here in this thread. Their motives have varied as to who or what that attitude has been directed at. It never works out well for them.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

125. Are you threatening me? I'm hurt, I thought you and me were friends...

[pintobean]

129. You saw that as a threat?

No, that was not a threat, in any way.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

134. Oh, sorry. I guess I misunderstood the context of this: "It never works out well for them." nt

[pintobean]

137. Yes, you must have.

You appear to be reading something into that that isn't there. It's nothing more than an observation.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

139. Well, sorry then. Sounded to me like I better watch myself or I might get the PPR. You know, it's

funny how the defenders are the ones that get the axe, rather than the offenders.

[pintobean]

157. FYI. I wasn't the alerter on your hidden post

I haven't alerted on any posts in this thread.

[Bobbie Jo]

163. Well obviously

You should apologize to this poster immediately!

As the recipient of the insulting post that was hidden, you have the responsibility to smooth things over when the aggrieved are forced to endure the prospect of accepting the consequences for their own behavior. Do you not see what you've done here?

Now get to it!

[pintobean]

165. Damn it

I'm eating soup. I had to clean my keyboard.

[Bobbie Jo]

166. Guess you're gonna tell me

I owe you a keyboard AND an apology.

[pintobean]

167. A laptop.

I'm not concerned about an apology. The laptop is totally fried though.

Oh...

um... I posting this from my friend's computer...

Yeah, that's it... I'm now on my friend's computer.

[Bobbie Jo]

168. lol

I was going to offer to replace the soup.

In the meantime.....

Maintain a safe distance between the liquids and electronics.

[rhett o rick]

150. "That member" admitted she is here to "give attention" to those she said "needs it".

And you gave her a +1. IMO that's disruption. And I might add very successful. One poster hidden.

Her words were, "there are a few "stars of DU" who seem to need a LOT of attention, so I sometimes participate in giving them some."

There seems to be a group that think it's their duty to "give them some" to specific posters that they label "stars".

[KoKo]

75. Absolutely! I want to hear news from DU'ers where they live...and

some of us have lived in places where we are still interested in what is going on there. It's a great community spirit and we used to do this all the time in early days of DU.

Community Service.

Thanks for the Post!

[FarCenter]

8. They're already on their computer down in their mother's basement?

[2naSalit]

48. Iphones maybe?

From what I hear, they have amazing apps and picture screens these days.

[laundry_queen]

63. LOL no kidding.

Last time we had a tornado warning and were sitting in our basement, we (my teens and I) had our phones and were posting on/reading (various sites) the entire time.

[TroglodyteScholar]

10. Thanks for this

I grew up in a region where we got some pretty powerful tornadoes every couple of years, and it is absolutely terrifying.

[WillyT]

13. You Are Quite Welcome !!!

[displacedtexan]

16. Boots on the ground! DU is great about live reports!

It's why it's my first news site of the day.

[pintobean]

17. I'm sure the DUers in Tupaloo appreciated

the heads-up.

[Aerows]

20. I sure as hell have appreciated her posts

about Brandon, since I have multiple family members there and can't get a bit of information yet.

[FSogol]

21. Google sez: Did you mean: Tupelo Tubaloo Toobaloo Tooploo

Timely warnings saved everyone in Tupaloo.

[WillyT]

23. So... Somebody Quickly Makes A Post To Warn Of Impending Doom... And You're Worried About Spelling

It's gotta be comfortable to be you.

[pintobean]

26. It wasn't even close.

A message board is a horrible place to get warnings of impending doom.

[pintobean]

34. That's about as low as it gets.

I would have expected better from you. Now I know.

[WillyT]

61. Nicely Done PB... Alert On Somebody Worrying About Their Family... You Feel Proud ???

Because You Shouldn't.

[pintobean]

62. Wrong. It wasn't me.

[WillyT]

64. Well... Maybe You Need To Say Something To Your Supporters...

[pintobean]

65. My supporters?

You mean the 5 anonymous jurors who don't think it's cool to call a long time DUer a conservative cave goat fucker?
Okay. I agree with you jurors, that's not cool.

[WillyT]

66. So That DUer Got Locked For Quoting Your Own Sig Line Back To You ???

Be a man... send him a PM and apologize.

[pintobean]

68. Be a man?

Is that like "man up"?



And, Aerows is a she.

You're right on top of things, as usual.

And, why do you think I need to apologize to someone for something I had nothing to do with? Are you calling me a liar about not being the alerter?

[WillyT]

70. Because I Got PM...ed... And SHE Is Threatening To Bail On DU...

I'd do the same for you.

[pintobean]

72. That's just weird.

You want me to lie to her and apologize for something I didn't do, and you would do that for me?
She attacked me and I let her know how I felt about it. The ball was in her court and she chose the status quo. There was plenty of time, before someone alerted, that she could have explained the comment or self deleted it.

I don't want her to leave, and I won't hold a grudge, but I won't lie to her to get her to stay. If she wants to leave over a hidden post, that's up to her.

[WillyT]

76. I Guess You Could Start With...

"apologize for something I didn't do"

It wasn't me...

And explain it.

[pintobean]

79. I have nothing to explain.

She's locked out of the thread. She can't post in it, but she can read it. If you think she needs something more, go ahead and give it to her. Remember though, she attacked me. I did nothing to her, other than let her know that I'm disappointed in that attack.

[WillyT]

84. Again... She Attacked You By Quoting You To Yourself...

I believe you when you say it wasn't you who alerted.

I wonder who did.

[pintobean]

86. Yes, I know what happened.

So did 5 of the jurors.

[WillyT]

89. Ok... Good Luck !!!

[rhett o rick]

98. Yes five jurors that will be doing the high fives on FB later. Will you be joining them?

This is crappy. Seems that The FaceBook DU Group wants to cleanse DU.

[pintobean]

107. That's ridiculous.

Maybe you should go see what actually goes on in that FB group. It's usually just people posting things that interest them, articles that have nothing to do with DU. The shit-stirring is pretty rare and hasn't happened in quite some time. It's usually started by people who have been kicked off of DU. Those assholes can't get past MIRT long enough to do anything here. I've never seen any jurors getting together.

[LanternWaste]

147. Must be pretty horrible to be called the very thing that we call others.

" I know what happened..."

Must be pretty horrible to be called the very thing that we call others. I can only imagine how difficult is to hold others to a higher standard then we hold ourselves to... even more difficult must be the creative rationalizations we make to maintain the thin patina of ethical pretense.

[Agschmid]

190. Your post is sexist, just FYI.

[WillyT]

191. Ok... I Was Pissed... How's This:

Be a woman... send her a PM and apologize.

[Agschmid]

195. Either way it is sexist.

How about "consider an apology" which I still think (as a non-involved observer) is not really needed.

[WillyT]

205. Damn... Pronouns Are Sexist... How Do We Speak From Now On ???

Pronoun
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[div]Examples:

I love you.
That reminds me of something.
He looked at them.
Take it or leave it.
Who would say such a thing?

In linguistics and grammar, a pronoun is a word or form that substitutes for a noun or noun phrase. It is a particular case of a pro-form.

Pronouns have traditionally been regarded as one of the parts of speech, but some modern theorists would not limit them to a single class because of the variety of functions they perform, including that of the personal pronouns, relative pronouns, interrogative pronouns, demonstrative pronouns and indefinite pronouns.[1]:1–34

The use of pronouns often involves anaphora, where the meaning of the pronoun is dependent on another referential element. This applies particularly to the (third-person) personal pronouns. The referent of the pronoun is often the same as that of a preceding (or sometimes following) noun phrase, called the antecedent of the pronoun. For example, in the sentence That poor man looks as if he needs a new coat, the antecedent of the pronoun he is the noun phrase that poor man. (Pronouns used without antecedents are sometimes called unprecursed pronouns.) Another type of antecedent is that found with relative pronouns, as in the woman who looked at you, where the woman is the antecedent of the relative pronoun who.

More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronoun

[unapatriciated]

130. If I had been on the jury I would have voted to leave it.

I read Aerows comment different than you and the alerter did. You chastised another member for using profanity she just pointed out that you use profanity every time you post by way of your sig line. The conversation was about the use of profanity, hence she pointed out your hypocrisy. It is disingenuous to accuse Aerows saying something she did not say. I think the alerter did not read the entire exchange and took Aerows comment out of context.

[pintobean]

136. I think you have confused the timeline

and the order of replies.

[unapatriciated]

138. nope read the entire thread.

I choose to answer where I did because you accused Aerows of calling you a goat fucker. Sorry she said no such thing. She told you to look in the mirror in regards to the use of profanity. Jury got it wrong this time.

edited to add:
Aerows may have replied to you out of sequence but those of us who read the entire thread understood exactly what she was referring to.

[pintobean]

140. But, you didn't read the thread in the order that it was posted.

The post where I mentioned profanity didn't exist when she made her reply, or when the jury hid that post. This sub-thread had nothing to do with profanity.

[unapatriciated]

145. I realize that.

She may have posted her reply to you in the wrong place, but anyone who read the entire thread understood what she meant. Come on be serious there is little or no context in this thread for you to believe she called you a goat fucker and you know it. There is however context in regards to the use of profanity. Unfortunately she was locked out by those who jumped to an incorrect conclusion before she could clarify.

[pintobean]

148. She, and the jurors, must be clairvoyant

being able to see posts that didn't exist until hours later.

[unapatriciated]

149. ok I have re-read the entire thread paying close attention to time and dates.

and must concede to your point. But since this is a thread that is based on bashing done in another thread I still believe there is more going on than what meets the eye here.

[Cali_Democrat]

173. This is one of the most ridiculous sub threads I've ever seen

Somebody attacked you and the post was rightly hidden.

Now people are trying to hold you accountable, demanding you say something to the alerter. How the hell are you supposed to know who it is anyways?

They are also demanding that you apologize to the person who attacked you.

Then the icing on the cake is someone who says the 5 jurors collaborated and will be doing high fives on facebook.

This is absolute craziness.

LOL.

[pintobean]

174. Who needs meta back?

We can have our cake and eat it, too.

[darkangel218]

180. Thanks to ...

?

nevermind.

[pintobean]

181. This thread was meta from the start.

[darkangel218]

182. What caused this thread??

that's the Question.

Again though, nevermind.

carry on.

[pintobean]

183. Why don't you ask Willy?

[darkangel218]

184. I dont have to ask him, I know the answer already. Do you??

[pintobean]

185. Then why did you ask me?

You wouldn't be trying to play games again, would you darkangel?

[darkangel218]

186. Again?? I never played games. When did i ever play games, pintobean?????

Cut and paste when I did. Or apologize if you falsely accused/attacked me.
Im waiting.

[pintobean]

189. Right before your forced time out.

You went on quite the attack against me and another DUer.
I believe this is the post that got you to five.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018548527

[darkangel218]

192. That was no game. You pm-emd me my old phone number.

Did I ever ask you to pm me my old number?? You did because I had probably given it to you 2 years ago, not knowing youre going to use that against me.

How did I ever play games??????????????????????????????

[darkangel218]

193. And this is where you and Kali were laughing at me

lol but its "me" playing games!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4284963

sick.

[pintobean]

203. Thanks for linking to that thread

It's very interesting.

[darkangel218]

204. Respond to why did you PM me randomly my phone number last year????>??

Im fucking waiting.

[aikoaiko]

194. And the jury results are in.....

And we see that unity is possible on DU. A unanimous verdict.

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
Mail Message
On Tue Apr 29, 2014, 09:33 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Then why did you ask me?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4887828

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

personal attack

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Apr 29, 2014, 09:48 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is not a personal attack. What a lame alert.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter is wasting people's time. Two demerits.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Whole thread is childish
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I see nothing here for an alert.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[pintobean]

196. Lol. No games there.

Thanks.

[darkangel218]

198. and who cares????!?

Ask pintobean why did he PM me my old phone number???????

WHY??

To show that he has it???

[WillyT]

187. So... A Long Time Friend And DUer, Who Fears A Tornado Is Heading His Way... Is META ???

I don't think it became META, until certain scolds showed up.

But that's just me.

[pintobean]

188. You mean at the top of the thread?

The first dozen or so posts? Were you one of the "certain scolds"?

[darkangel218]

199. Why did you PM me my old phone number??

Im asking you straight up. Last year I received a PM from you with only my phone number. WHY????

What were you trying to say with that?? that you have it??????

[pintobean]

200. That was a reply

to a pm that you had sent me. You had that phone number in the subject line. The system automatically includes the original message in a reply. I didn't put it in the pm, you did.

[darkangel218]

201. OMG, that is not true!!!

You sent me the PM in July of last year!!! I was in distress over breaking up over my bf and I responded to many PMs with my phone number in 2012!!!!!!

NOT 2013!!


YET, YOU DECIDED THAT I BETTER BE REMINDED THAT YOU HAVE MY NUMBER, IN 2013!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shame on you!!

[darkangel218]

202. This is what you sent me:

Basically my old message back

Re: my number is ***-***-****

Mail Message



*

> If you can, please ring me, I really need advice

You sent this back to me a year later, to show me you have my ( old ) number.

That speaks volumes of you, pintobean.

[pintobean]

208. You just proved that what I said was true.

And it had nothing to do with any break up. You sent that to me out of the blue during a Meta Drama that you had created, then incrementally self deleted. I had never had any interaction with you at the time. Just a post or two in that meta thread. I can't go into any detail because meta is gone. I didn't reply to it to show you that I had your phone number, I did it to remind you of that meta thread. I believe there was a gbcw involved when you sent it, and when I replied.

[darkangel218]

209. BS!!! Why did you send my phone number back?????

If you wanted to send me reminder to a thread you could have sent me a link!! not a PM!!!

I am sorry I trusted you 2 years ago. Never again.

Carry on.

[pintobean]

210. There is no linking to Meta

It's gone. Maybe you can have someone in MIRT check their archives, if they have any. You and that thread were a topic of discussion there, at that time.

[darkangel218]

212. You PMed me what i posted ahead!!!

Don't fuking deny it!! I COPIED AND PASTED YOUR POST FROM 2013 MINUS MY PHONE NUMBER!!!

Are you denying you sent me RANDOMLY that PM????? Even Skinner has it, as I forwarded him your post.

[pintobean]

214. I know you forwarded it to Skinner

I laughed when you PMed me to inform me. He would recognize it as a reply, just as I stated.

Re: my number is ***-***-****

The 'Re' indicates that it's a reply in reference to what you sent me. The subject line that follows that was yours, from the PM I was replying to.

This is from your PM also:

> If you can, please ring me, I really need advice

The only thing that's mine is the asterisk in between. A reply to a pm that you sent me is not a random pm.

[darkangel218]

216. Why would you send it back to me a year later, with no comment????

I obviously didn't know you when I send you my ( old ) number, so why did you feel like PMng it back to me a year later?????? Randomly???

Please answer that.

[pintobean]

217. I did answer it

and I'm done running in circles with this silly crap.

[darkangel218]

218. No you didnt!!

You sent me BACK MY PHONE NUMBER , A YEAR LATER, RANDOMLY!!

Stop saying you answered!! You HAVE NOT!! Even Skinner has my post about you!!

LET ME TELL YOU NOW IF YOU DIDNT CARE ABOUT MY OLD PMS!! YOU DONT SCARE ME!! KEEP SENDING ME BACK MY NUMBER ALL YOU WANT, IT ONLY REFLECTS ON WHO YOU ARE.

[darkangel218]

215. iM WAITING, PINTOBEAN.

YOU ACCUSED ME OF MAKING STUFF UP. ANSWER MY QUESTION PLEASE!!!!
WHEN AND WHAT DID I MAKE UP????

[Agschmid]

197. +1

[Generic Other]

207. This jury?

Ok... I Was Pissed... How's This:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4887983

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is unreal. He "corrects" a sexist post by calling a man a woman. There's just so much wrong with this.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Apr 29, 2014, 07:00 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: very wrong
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Good Lord, don't you have anything more compelling in the real world to get worked up over?
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh stop it!
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: It is still sexist.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[WillyT]

213. Well...He/She Tried...

[WillyT]

33. Well... Some Message Boards... Like This One...Have Something Like A Family Dynamic...

Read the whole thread... people actually care for one another.

Imagine that.

[pintobean]

41. I've read the thread.

You're calling people out for advocating that people use the most reliable sources to get emergency information. People's safety comes before DU egos and personalities.

Duers discussing the events is normal and natural. Someone trying to claim that DU is a reliable source of timely and accurate information for those in the paths of these storms is a whole nuther ballgame.

[WillyT]

42. And As Was Posted...

And yeah... I'm sure they have their radio and TV tuned for news too...

They might just want to talk about the shit they're going through.

The first point is fairly obvious... And...

Most of the thread reinforces the second point.

[pintobean]

45. Maybe you haven't read everything we're talking about.

[WillyT]

50. Enlighten Me... Please.

[pintobean]

52. Enlighten yourself.

Maybe you should have done that earlier.

[WillyT]

53. It's A Big Board... Could You Narrow It Down ??? "everything we're talking about"

Who is "we", and where is this discussion ???

[pintobean]

159. ^^ and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT ^^

[LanternWaste]

143. I imagine many people like to pretend they have knowledge of what is not a viable medium...

I imagine many people like to pretend they have knowledge of what is not a viable medium for responsive communication... it certainly allows them to focus on petulance rather than message.

[MineralMan]

121. Spelling matters, Willy. It matters especially in situations

where someone might want to find information by searching on Google. Tupaloo isn't going to take someone searching for Tupelo to information about their city. It's just not.

I have no objection whatever to people posting about weather warnings on DU. I don't think it's very useful to folks living in threatened areas, since they almost certainly know bad weather is imminent already. They can look out their window, and local media is pretty good about covering such things.

But...if they do decide to search for warnings about their area, they're going to search for the proper spelling of their community. Someone living in Tupelo knows how to spell the name of their city. So, they'll search for Tupelo, not Tupaloo. So, if someone wants to warn people there, on the off chance they'll be looking on DU, spelling the city name correctly in the title of the post is important.

That's why I posted the correct spelling in that thread more than once. I don't care if someone wants to post severe weather warnings on DU, but I do care that, if they do, they spell the name of the place correctly. The correct spelling was in the NWS text in the post. It was, however, misspelled in a serious way in the thread title. Paying attention to such details is important if your goal is to alert people to a serious situation in a place.

Spelling matters, Willy. It especially matters in an emergency. Google won't show you Tupaloo if you search for Tupelo. It just wont. So, spelling matters, even on DU, in thread titles.

That's why I posted corrections.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

126. Did you know what town she meant when she made that typo, MM? nt

[MineralMan]

128. I did. I wasn't searching for Tupelo, however.

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I happened on the post while browsing through the GD post list. I'm familiar with Tupelo, though. It's famous for its honey, which is quite delicious, by the way.

Had I been searching for news about the weather in Tupelo, though, which I wasn't, I wouldn't have found that thread on Google. I would have found a thread on Tupaloo, in the extremely unlikely event I was searching for Tupaloo. My point is that nobody searches for Tupaloo, but they might, perhaps, search for Tupelo to find weather information. They would, however, be likely to go to Weather Underground or the Weather Channel site to find out what was going on.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

132. I don't think nadin's live-blogging of natural disasters are aimed at people searching Google. nt

[MineralMan]

146. OK. I guess there just in case someone who lives there happens to

be browsing through GD.

[WillyT]

142. "... to find out what was going in." - The Horror...

[MineralMan]

144. Thanks. I corrected my spelling error.

I always appreciate it when people point an error out to me. And I always fix it right away.

[bvar22]

152. Actually, "Tupelo Honey" refers to the Tupelo Gum Tree,

.....and NOT the town of Tupelo, Mississippi.

"Tupelo Honey comes from the blossom of the tupelo tree, which belongs to the sour gum family. There are several species of gum trees, but only the white tupelo tree (Nyssa Ogeche) produces an excellent table grade honey. Although white tupelo trees grow throughout the Southeastern United States, some of the largest concentrations of these special trees are found in the Florida Panhandle, in and around the Apalachicola and Chipola river basins. These areas are world-renowned for producing high quality Tupelo Honey."

http://www.floridatupelohoney.com/tupelofacts.cfm

[MineralMan]

154. True, but that's how I recognize the spelling of that city's

name. I'm familiar with the word because of Tupelo honey, which I buy from a Florida honey producer.

[WillyT]

156. Did You Try ??? - When I Typed "Tupaloo" Into The Google Bar, I Got All Sorts Of "Tupelo" Choices...

And while accuracy in emergency notifications is what we want, I'll put that burded on the National Weather Service, FEMA, the Weather Channel, NBC, NOAA, etc...

[MineralMan]

158. But, why would you type "Tupaloo" into Google?

If you lived in Tupelo, you'd surely know how to spell the name of your city. I can guarantee that if you type "Tupelo" into Google, you won't find results with "Tupaloo" in them. It works one way, but not the other. If you typed "Tupelo Weather," you'd get valid weather-related results. Those results would not include "Tupaloo," though.

Now, if I wanted to write something on DU about Tupelo, I'd want people to be able to find what I wrote. So, I'd spell it correctly. If I didn't, nobody searching for "Tupelo" would find my post if I misspelled the name of the city.

And that's why I posted corrections to the spelling error in that thread, and that's the only reason I posted in that thread.

[Aerows]

19. I have SEVERAL family members

right smack in the middle of this. So yes, I'm worried out of my mind.

If I and the other board members affected by this aren't allowed to discuss it, and we are allowed to bash those that do, then no, I really don't want to be a part of this board.

Most aren't like that, but a lot of people take opportunities to take pot shots at people - you have no idea how invaluable Nadin's posts have been in this mess, because I don't use Twitter, and local stations aren't/can't cover it.

Quit bashing people reporting the news that is relevant to people, because they also report new that is relevant or may be relevant to you just because you dislike that poster. It makes you look like an arrogant douchebag.

Feel free to hide it, jury, but her posts have been invaluable knowing what is happening to my FAMILY members.

[WillyT]

22. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!!

Exactly !!!

[RKP5637]

32. K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[Lugnut]

103. And K&R again!

[jwirr]

24. I use the weather posts to keep an eye on what is happening with my family. Thank you Nadin.

[Laurian]

25. I agree, WillyT. I find the criticism and mocking to be

petty and mean. People should just scroll on by the storm information if they're not interested. To take the time just to post something snarky makes no sense to me and I find it juvenile and embarrassing.

[WillyT]

36. They Cannot Help Themselves... Their Sole Purpose Is To Spread Derision...

Sad... Pathetic... but True.

[bvar22]

162. Sad... Pathetic... but True.

I see that happening here on DU,
the irrational bullying attacks on someone who IS providing a service that many DUers acknowledge as valuable.

I ask myself,
What possible gain do they obtain through this behavior?
WHAT is the Food Pellet that rolls out of the slot for them that forces them to continue this behavior?

I can't wrap my mind around it.
It is disturbing.

[Texasgal]

27. I'm totally okay with that

It's okay to hear about other DU'ers on the front lines of bad weather.

[RKP5637]

28. Exactly!!!!!!!!! n/t

[Rowdyboy]

35. Just having a connection to the rest of the world made an enormous difference...No electricity

means nothing but battery operated weather alerts. I've fought getting a cell phone for years and I'm sure as hell I gave in a few weeks ago. It was my lifeline.

Thanks to all those thinking of us in the state tonight. Its not over yet and a lot of folks didn't get off as lightly as we did.

[WillyT]

38. Rowdyboy !!! - WooHoo !!!

Glad you are safe and alright.

[Rowdyboy]

39. I think it passed about 5 miles south of here...We've had electricity back

for 20 minutes or so. I hope the worst is over but thank all you guys for being there.

[WillyT]

40. Anytime...

[myrna minx]

133. I'm so glad you're ok.

[JI7]

37. it's not a good idea to rely on DU for tornado alerts and other weather related alerts

there should be something else that is more reliable . i'm not saying someone can't post about it but that it's not something people should depend on for this type of info.

[TreasonousBastard]

43. Someone's ragging on Nadine for posting storm info? Glad I...

missed that.

No DU isn't the "best" place to post tornado info, and there may even be no "best" place. But, it's a place, and it doesn't take anything away from anywhere else to post info. Might even be helpful to some, and certainly gives good hugs to those in danger.

Thanks to Nadine and everyone else who posted for caring and trying to do something. At a time like this we do what we can, and bitching about it has no place at all.

[WillyT]

44. EXACTLY !!!

[G_j]

46. right on

simple as that, thanks!

[suffragette]

49. I was going to post similar, but you said it all so well

I'm just going to cheer on your post!

[Owl]

57. Love Nadine too!

[myrna minx]

131. .

[malaise]

47. Sometimes I don't understand what's going on

We always have tornado and hurricane threads. We've even have earthquake threads -damn it.

Everyone in tonight's tornado alley, here's something for you

&feature=kp

[Liberal_in_LA]

55. yep

[nolabear]

56. Thanks WillyT. Indeed it's just good to have someone to talk to.

I've been on a DU break but Mr. Bear's away and I'm sitting here worrying by myself. Just having people say "We're rooting for you and yours" is helpful.

[darkangel218]

60. +1 mil

Most people on DU are amazing. I should remember that anytime I encounter haters. It's only few of them though, and they don't represent DU.

[WillyT]

67. Anytime... nolabear, Anytime...

[Rowdyboy]

155. It helps more than people know-unti they've been there...

After the electricity went out my new I-phone was the only "news" I had and DU was there for me.

[A HERETIC I AM]

59. Nice thread, dude. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

69. Thanks. I conclued a while ago we have a pretty commited group of character assasins

who will go after me for anything and everything. So you learn to live with the bullies. What do you do?

If posting all this crap from the twitter (amazing resource) helps one person, mission accomplished. And I know it has helped more than one person. And these people will even attack regular posters who are worried sick about their families, and get away with it.

My dad used to call that having proteksia, protection, and they do. They break all kinds of rules and they get away with it. They are there waiting to pounce, and all they do is insert negativity in this place and try to drive people away. Sad little group if you ask me.

But they are part of the white noise that is these days filtered on DU. They are also willfully ignorant and do not realize just how much the world continues to change. What I was doing today is gathering all kinds of info that is available, but it is nice to have one place to look for it. The fact that this bothers them shows them to be very shallow people in my view.

So the best we all can do is put them on ignore, all of them, and not pay attention to them. They will hate the echo chamber. But you cannot fight them since they are part of the system

And I know this effort helped people to know what was going on with their own families, and I also know local news can take a while to catch up, even in breaking news situations.

The part that galls me about them is that people have died during these storms, but it is all chuckles to them.

Hi my friend, We at times disagree, but we see eye to eye on one fundamental fact that these guys and gals do not, we care about people. I concluded a while ago that they hate me, they are blinded by hate, and they will continue to do this until I leave. It must be really frustrating, 14 years, and nope.

But them making fun of people who are hurting right now is beyond low.

[WillyT]

71. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - And Thank You !!!

[neverforget]

78. Thank you Nadin for trying to do the right thing and help people.

[HooptieWagon]

80. + many.

You do a great job, Nadine. Don't let the a-holes get you down.

[Demo_Chris]

102. Like most posters here I have been astonished at the bullshit some here throw your way...

Probably should speak out about it more often, but it seems like feeding trolls to get into it with ibullies.

[nadinbrzezinski]

153. These bullies have real protection

So the more I think about it the best tactic, since they are not going away, is mass ignore. Do not engage them, do not aknowledge their existence, period.

The more that do that, the less negative effect they will have, because the rest of us will have moved on. It is a small group, but i really do not associate with utterly negative people. None of us should.

And you know the depth of depravity when they call NWS tweets on extreme weather...spam. And when they lure and attack posters who have family directly affected by the storm. Those are not the actions of a normal human being. Those are the actions of a person with real issues dealing with other humans. It has zero to do with politics, but definitely that is a person I would fear for real in a dark alley.

So we are probably dealing with more than your regular run if the mill bully as well.

[Vashta Nerada]

77. I remember sitting through a tornado that ripped through my town last summer...

and DU wasn't even on my mind. Getting the hell into the basement and listening to the weather radio and watching the local weather station was my top priority.

[nadinbrzezinski]

81. And that is what you should be doing

but... i knew that was coming, at times having a collection of tweets from official sources, and media, can help you see a storm before it gets to you.

And by the way, idiots who don't know better, like the local CAL FIRE PIO, have recognized that this is another layer of information. It is not for older people who have a radio, You'd be surprised how many younger people don't (and they should)

[Vashta Nerada]

82. I wasn't knocking you or anything.

I was just stating my own experience in severe weather.

[nadinbrzezinski]

87. I am just pointing the situation

and the reality of it.

The leading edge of social media being seen as another layer actually started here in San Diego in 2007, and it has gown. It is to the point that official sources now have twitter feeds. The paper subscribes to all relevant ones for San Diego in case of a disaster. And I have been separating the wheat from the chaff all day. (I even posted one rumor mongering one that was really bad)

I will be brutally very honest, very worst case scenario, and I have told this to people running FB pages locally expecting to replace media and officials (a disaster waiting to happen, with lawsuit for other reasons), the web will be down, electricity will be down, and the only people seeing this will be outside the zone. Which benefits press people in DC and NYC, that don't have time to move in.

They did not like that, but that is the truth.

But for the moment, me back to separating the wheat from the chaff (and it is also practice for when we have a real local disaster where we will be using twitter and fb and the rest of it as intel gathering)

For the record, I agree with you, people SHOULD have a radio. We have several, battery operated and also solar. And two of them have NWS weather bands. And I do not live in tornado alley. But as I have been accused I am an old fogey. I like to think having done disaster relief makes me especially sensitive to being prepared.

[Vashta Nerada]

93. Anyone who lives in a disaster-prone area

such as an earthquake zone, flood plain, tornado alley, or hurricane area (basically most people) should have disaster preparation kits handy so when disaster does strike, or when it's on the way, one can be prepared.

I agree with the role social media has in disaster readiness. When shootings occur at schools and universities, it's usually reported on social media websites like twitter and facebook way before it's on news websites. Many people will get that info right away instead of waiting for news websites to report it. And you're right. Many news sites now have twitter feeds so the news can get out quicker.

[nadinbrzezinski]

95. I actually maintain the local one for the paper

which is at times a pain in the rear.

Our concentration are fires, floods, weather, and quakes. It has to do with 2007 and lack of specific news to the back country. If it happens on 5th and broadway, no problem...the town of Boulevard...not so much. I have been known to tweet from the field, operative word, if I have a connection. At times in the back country that is like pulling teeth. (Though TELCEL has better coverage it seems)

Posters here benefited from the threads by learning if their family was affected though, today.

In fact, I have to do a gear check. I smell a red flag coming up... and I like to check my fire gear before I have to take it to the middle of a fire for some odd reason.



The amount of crap we carry to fires is amazing. And for those who have a kit, I always recommend one piece of kit most people never think about, a multitool, good quality.

And I'd better pay attention to the scanner at the moment, something locally is up... could be a false alarm (likely)

[Vashta Nerada]

96. Ugh.

I hate fire-prone areas. My archaeology site is in a dry area and it caught fire last August. Thousands of acres burned in northwestern Nebraska. Thankfully no one was there at the time and thankfully the site is covered up so nothing got ruined.

Take care, and good luck.

[nadinbrzezinski]

97. Oh will do

Now back to the tornado,

Breaking911 ‏@Breaking911 4m
CONFIRMED MASSIVE TORNADO: Moving Toward #Birmingham, #Alabama -Take Cover Now! #alwx pic.twitter.com/ImqZZOpNH3

[ChisolmTrailDem]

94. Of course you weren't. That you don't follow DU during a weather emergency was quite relevant

to the conversation and valuable information to have, valuable enough to interupt the thread to say so.

Thank you.

[SheilaT]

101. I don't happen to own a TV.

I do spend more time than I should on DU, but that means that more than once I've first heard about something or another here.

I bet I'm not the only one.

[MadrasT]

105. +1

[Horse with no Name]

104. One of the *BEST* of DU, if not THE BEST, was the night Katrina made landfall

There were a handful or more of us sitting up watching in horror as it happened, giving updates to those who couldn't get them and all sending good vibes out to our fellow DU'ers in the way of that.

When I think back of seeing the best of folks, I think of that night and that morning.

We weren't personally attacked for participating on that thread. I hate to see that there is so much viciousness these days towards certain posters.

[malaise]

113. It is mind-blowing

I remember that night with Katrina.
DU has great posters - people who actually care. The viciousness is unbearable these days.

[WillyT]

118. Thank You For Reminding Me... DU At Its Best...

[justabob]

122. agreed completely

I think a large portion of my total posts were in those Katrina threads back then. The horror of watching that monster make landfall and the levees collapsing and all the associated horrors of people trapped in their attics and on roofs and all the rest of it.... Brings tears to my eyes even now.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

123. Those attacking nadin for her efforts to live-blog fires, tornadoes, hurricanes, etc., suffer from

inferiority complexes and jealousy, among other things that I could be accused of insensitivity for saying out loud. Much like bullies.

[myrna minx]

135. .

[nadinbrzezinski]

160. I remember, all of us were looking for info

iirc the small group of negative folks went almost into hiding throughout that mess.

But I do not remember them pissing and moaning on posts. I wish we had the official FEMA twitter feeds back then. It would have made things that much easier to keep people abreast.

And that is... a lessons learned of both Katrina and the 2007 SoCal Wilffires.

[GobBluth]

110. I'm deaf and live in Florida

During Hurricane season, quite often, the newscasts aren't closed captioned. When they are it can be very spotty. I don't know ASL. Needless to say I CAN'T listen to the radio. I remember during Charlie, the information I found on the internet really helped to calm me down and focus on what needed to be done.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

115. There are...people...here who show up wherever nadin posts and make fun of her and disparage

her contribution no matter what she posts about.

I, for one, appreciate nadin's efforts even when I feel the information she supplies doesn't apply to me. DU is as close to real-time as Twitter (where you get chaos and teens/tweens and justin beiber, 140 characters at a time) when it comes to delivering information in a timely manner to an audience that spans the country and includes people who may have family and friends in the affected area. Regular DUer's know this and will ALWAYS have DU open on the desktops, tablets, and cell phones during an emergency or notable event - ALONG WITH watching/listening to their local TV and radio stations. That is good enough reason for nadin to spend her time keeping others informed.

[lovemydog]

116. Hi GobBluth

Just want to say welcome here.

[nadinbrzezinski]

170. Glad to be able to help somebody when this happens

I have been told that by a few of our readers at the paper as well. They rely on our emergency messages and twitter feed because the news is not closed captioned.

[darkangel218]

177. And most of us apreciate what you do, Nadine.

Don't allow them to get you down.

[steve2470]

127. I'm glad she's trying to do something positive

Granted, one may be alerted much faster by TV and radio, but at least she's trying to do something positive. She gets props from me for that.

[hrmjustin]

141. Great post.

I think it is sad people have to nitpick like they do. Seems like it has just become a bad habbit that reflects poorly on them and not the person giving the warning. They should learn to break the habbit.

[dembotoz]

161. i want to know what the rest of my du family is up against

your sorrows and the joys

we are not all kitten pictures and obamacare posts

[Bobbie Jo]

164. No problem with it here....

Read them all.

[mstinamotorcity2]

172. I personally like

it that we care about each other!!!! Especially My old school DUers!!!

[darkangel218]

176. If i could rec this OP more than once, I would.

Thank you WillyT x

Bullies don't belong on this board.

[WillyT]

178. You Are Quite Welcome !!! - And I'm Sure That They Do Not Believe They Are Bullies...

Behavior suggests otherwise.

[darkangel218]

179. I think they do.

They just got away with it so many times, they think its ok to engage in this behavior whenever they feel like.

I have seen their true colours a long time ago. I just laugh at them.

Theyre sad.

[Generic Other]

206. During Katrina right after Camp Casey in Crawford

DU helped some of folks connect. Missing kids even. I don't see why anyone would find fault with threads warning us about impending weather conditions, etc. Once, DUers sat by someone in Mexico as she rode out a storm that forced her eventually to seek refuge with a neighbor who had a second story. I can't believe anyone has to defend posting such threads. If nothing else, the emotional support is worth something.

I was personally thanked for the work we did trying to help people get word to their friends and relatives.

And if the big one comes roaring down near my house, I hope y'all will ask if I am ok too!

[WillyT]

211. Word !!!

Maybe it's newbies that have no idea what DU is about.

Although... I've met newbies that get it... EXACTLY.