Kerry: U.S. TAPED Moscow’s CALL's To Its Ukraine SPIES

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"..The secretary of state claimed in a private meeting that the U.S. intelligence community has recordings of pro-Russian forces being managed by government handlers in Moscow..."

The secretary of state claimed in a private meeting that the U.S. intelligence community has recordings of pro-Russian forces being managed by government handlers in Moscow.The United States has proof that the Russian government in Moscow is running a network of spies inside eastern Ukraine because the U.S. government has recordings of their conversations, Secretary of State John Kerry said in a closed-door meeting Friday. “Intel is producing taped conversations of intelligence operatives taking their orders from Moscow and everybody can tell the difference in the accents, in the idioms, in the language. We know exactly who’s giving those orders, we know where they are coming from,” Kerry said at a private meeting of the Trilateral Commission in Washington. A recording of Kerry’s remarks was obtained by The Daily Beast.



Kerry didn’t name specific Russian officials implicated in the recordings. But he claimed that the intercepts provided proof of the Russians deliberately fomenting unrest in eastern Ukraine—and lying about it to U.S. officials and the public. “It’s not an accident that you have some of the same people identified who were in Crimea and in Georgia and who are now in east Ukraine,” said Kerry. “This is insulting to everybody’s intelligence, let alone to our notions about how we ought to be behaving in the 21st century. It’s thuggism, it’s rogue state-ism. It’s the worst order of behavior.” Representatives for the State Department and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence did not respond to requests for comment.



Kerry has asserted publicly before that Russian intelligence officers were the “catalyst” behind the riots and government building takeovers in eastern Ukraine. But on Friday he told the private audience why he—and the U.S. intelligence community—were so sure of this assessment. If U.S. intelligence agencies have intercepted proof of Russia’s destabilization operations, as Kerry claims, it means that the code-breakers and eavesdroppers in the National Security Agency and the broader American armed forces have overcome Russian efforts to hide their military communications. In March, the Wall Street Journal reported that U.S. agencies were surprised that it had not collected any telltale signs of the Crimea stealth invasion at the end of February, suggesting the Russians had managed to give such orders without the United States knowing about it.




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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/29/kerry-u-s-taped-moscow-s-calls-to-its-ukraine-spies.html

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1. "...The intercepts also come as more proof has mounted..

....inside Ukraine that Russia is behind the provocations, uprisings and other actions aimed at ripping the country apart. On Monday Ukraine's internal security service claimed they caught the self appointed separatist deputy mayor of Slavyansk with cash and encryption equipment on a return trip from Moscow. Last month, The Daily Beast reported the first signs of a Russian shadow invasion of Ukraine, noting Ukrainian arrests in eastern cities of people suspected of espionage...."

[Iggo]

2. Our spies spied on their spies?

What next?!?!?!

[Blue_Tires]

3. Proving what most of us already suspected...

So which card does Washington play next?


And I'll just post this link for the inevitable "But-it's-wrong-and-illegal-to-intercept-Russia's-phone-calls" outrage...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014720661

[Octafish]

4. Give up Trotsky!

Or is it: Give up, Trotsky?



Either way, we're heading toward World War III.

[TwilightGardener]

5. Why reveal this, though? Not sure that is a good idea.

[Keefer]

6. That was my question.

What possible edge does revealing this give the U.S.?

[TwilightGardener]

7. The only thing I can think of is, Kerry was trying to show his

Trilateral Commission audience that Lavrov and Putin are such big freakin' liars about their involvement in Ukraine that he can't deal with them anymore. But no, I wouldn't have put this info out there, why disrupt your hard-won intelligence channel?