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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf you break your nose
and show up on camera only 30 minutes later, some evidence of that injury will be apparent. Even if there was bleeding and it was cleaned up, his nose would be swollen or have a mark or something.
I have broken my nose twice, and 30 minutes later there was a boatload of evidence 30 minutes later. In addition, a broken nose and possible head injuries should be checked by a qualified medical person.
If Zimmerman were to claim later that the police prevented him from getting the proper care, he would probably have grounds for a lawsuit if he experienced problems. In addition, head wounds bleed profusely. That injury is suspect too IMHO.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)Elsewhere some are contesting the video, but the report of those who were hands on (literally) will be telling. Police should have taken photos as part of the interview. It is unknown if they did or not. There are claims that Zimmerman went to a private doc the next day. Records and radiology from that visit would also be useful.
There are other threads here about broken noses here on DU...my take is that the vast majority bleed and/or swell, but some do not.
In the video released yesterday I did not see someone who was injured...he is going to jail.
Warpy
(111,339 posts)His whole story stinks. If he had been close to Martin when he fired, he'd have had blood soaked clothing.
He's a punk with a gun who panicked when the guy he was chasing started to scream for help.
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)him, Trayvon was on top of him and not get ONE SPOT OF BLOOD ON HIS SHIRT? Doesn't maker any sense at all.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)Mine didn't bleed one single drop yet it was a very bad break requiring surgery to fix. I also got no swelling and no bruising or other indication that there was any kind of injury at all. My own family members couldn't tell even up close and personal that I had gotten any kind of nose injury at all. Even I myself couldn't tell looking in a mirror unless I held a pencil up against the ridge of my nose to see that it was off kilter. It was only the x-rays that revealed all the damage on the inside which was the reason I couldn't breathe at all out of one side of my nose. Of course, *I* knew it was broken immediately since I instantly couldn't breathe out of one side and it FELT like my nose was coming out of the side of my head.
No two broken noses are alike nor are the symptoms alike. Why in the world would they be?
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)Warpy
(111,339 posts)A slow drip usually doesn't last all that long.
Eddie Haskell
(1,628 posts)I'll believe my own eyes.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)then your eyes may not be as trustworthy as you think.
zbdent
(35,392 posts)like the guy who said he could fabricate a piece of evidence (against Bush43) using his printer and Microsoft Word ...
LaurenG
(24,841 posts)from beginning to end. Unless he took a shower before the police came he is a liar, and did anyone else notice how the police just sort of all went into the building and asumed he would follow them? Weird that.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)probably were half expecting something like this to happen
They ID'd the victim that he shot and then labelled Martin's body as a "John Doe" anyway. How will they explain THAT?
appleannie1
(5,068 posts)his father's story that Trayvon sat on George and hit him repeatedly in the face for a couple minutes time. Yet there was no red marks, no abrasions and no swelling anywhere on his face. The more he adds to his defense the less likely it is to be true.
bullwinkle428
(20,630 posts)out too well for him! The "head wounds" would have been pretty clearly evident when you have minimal hair on your head.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)It swelled up like a balloon right away and I sported two black eyes for a couple weeks. It was awesome since the whole thing coincided with the first two weeks of my sophomore year in high school.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)When I broke my nose, it flattened out, it bled and I had 2 blackeyes. I stayed home from school because I was a mess. Kids at school teased me(that I got into a fight) for days about my black eyes once I returned to school.
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)There was no blood, but there was swelling and I had two black eyes, which showed up a day or so later and lasted for a couple of weeks, running the gamut from black and blue to green and yellow.
calimary
(81,466 posts)Nor did his face or clothing look as though he'd just been pummeled by an attacker. Nor did the back of his head.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Zimmerman seems to be breathing through his nose just fine!
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)gkhouston
(21,642 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)I was THAT terrified of the surgery. But finally I couldn't stand it anymore and bit the bullet and had the surgery done. The aftermath of the surgery was aweful. I still get sick to my stomach remembering. The day after the surgery though I was basically fine other than feeling sick from the antibiotics. If I had known just how miserable that surgery was even though it was just the afternoon and that night in the hospital you couldn't have dragged me into surgery to this day... you'd have to catch me first, and I'd be sprinting!
Ugh, now I feel sick again.
In any case, even though I had a really bad break there was no blood, no swelling, no bruising, no nothing.
I never got any swelling or bruising after the surgery either and I'd been warned of great big black eyes being likely. I just got a tiny bit of yellow in the corner under one eye. Thank goodness... dealing with the surgery was bad enough, I would have hated to be all black and blue and swollen to boot. I did have a really remarkable surgeon though. He let me play my Simon and Garfunkel tape on my walkman during the surgery and even had the tape flipped over for me. Not that I really recall any of the music since whatever anesthesia they gave me put me on some other planet (I swear I was NOT on this planet under that stuff). Must have been some crazy powerful antesthesia dope they gave me.
thucythucy
(8,086 posts)I'm not doubting you, but I'm curious how you could break it so bad as to need surgery but still not suffer any bleeding, bruises, or swelling.
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)he claimed that "Zimmerman was beat to the point of losing consciousness after his head was beat on the concrete for nearly a minute."
IT WAS A MIRACLE! PRAISE GOD!!! 35 minutes later there is no evidence of this serious condition.