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BENGHAZI!..BENGHAZI!..BENGHAZI!..BENGHAZI!....BENNNNNNNNNNNGHAZI!.........
Fireworks begin around 4:46
During Thursdays broadcast of Morning Joe, host Joe Scarborough lashed out at a guest and caused one of the more shameful and embarrassing moments to be seen on cable news, and that is saying a lot. The panel was discussing recent emails that were released by the White House, which the right has pointed to as a smoking gun when it comes to Benghazi. For Republicans that have been trying to make this supposed scandal stick, one particular email apparently shows complete and total proof that the White House tried to cover-up the truth about Benghazi. Of course, the email in question is actually one that discusses the administrations overall foreign policy as it relates to the Middle East and was not a directive to get then-UN Ambassador Susan Rice to mislead the public on the truth about Benghazi, but that hasnt stopped the media from running with it lately.
Anyway, Scarborough took charge during the discussion and was in full outrage form. After playing a clip of ABCs Jonathan Karl peppering White House Press Secretary Jay Carney with questions on Wednesday about the email and how it proves that the White House was trying to cover-up what happened in Benghazi for political reasons. Scarborough then went into full-on crazy wingnut mode, claiming that the White House is using doublespeak when saying that this email wasnt about Benghazi as much as it was about the discussion of foreign policy at the time.
Frothing at the mouth, Scarborough then threw it to guest Donny Deutsch, who tried to talk about how this email will likely be fools gold for the Republicans, especially if they try to run on it all the way through 2016. Well, that didnt sit well with Scarborough, as you can see in the video.
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/05/01/joe-scarborough-loses-mind-air-bullies-guest-benghazi.html
BeyondGeography
(39,367 posts)I could only watch the the last minute or so...Donny's right.
Segami
(14,923 posts)Dumb putz!
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)He shot off, "Joe, you ignorant slut!"
The best of SNL!
Aristus
(66,307 posts)I mean, if you're looking for a scandal, you don't have to run so far from that one...
Atman
(31,464 posts)Bring it on, Joe.
malaise
(268,844 posts)and just before the 2012 elections, I posted my view that the RW goons and neo-cons wanted another Carter 1979 moment to help Rmoney. Benghazi was a complete inversion of reality and an RW inside job. From day one it has been my view that they have been running away from that simple truth and trying to pin the tail on Dems.
Segami
(14,923 posts)The Benghazi Hoax deals with the Republican obsession with the September 11, 2012 terrorist attack on the U.S. embassy in Benghazi that resulted in the deaths of Ambassador Chris Stevens, Information Officer Sean Smith and former Navy SEALs Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods.
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/11/03/gops-benghazi-hoax-exposed.html
malaise
(268,844 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,399 posts)Maybe that puts me slightly in the realm on conspiracy nut.
I don't know that whoever put it out there knew exactly WHAT would happen (nor does it excuse what DID happen) but I'm sure that "they" knew that it would likely set off protests and violence in the ME, which it did, but, remember, according to Republicans, "YOU CAN'T BLAME THE VIDEO!!!!"
malaise
(268,844 posts)who gets rich bashing muslims
Mike Daniels
(5,842 posts)I've seen moments where Donny will be making a point and Joe will try to interrupt him. Donny more often then not will continue to talk over Joe's interruption and if Joe persists Donny will let loose with a "Do you mind if I finish what I'm trying to say?" type of response.
Donny's already on Joe and Mika's shit list anyway for repeatedly saying that even if Bridge-gate amounts to nothing that Christie's bullying approach to government makes him unqualified to be POTUS and that he won't be nominated much less elected.
When all is said and done, I guess when you make as much as Deutsch makes you can basically have the "I don't need this gig nor do I need to take your crap" attitude he displays towards Joe.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Do you think Cheney and Bush would have handled that differently?
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)even remember this?
It was a non issue when it came out and it remains a non issue.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,399 posts)Granted, most of my close friends and family members are not wingnut crackpots (even among the Republicans in my family) but still, if it wasn't a strike against President Obama back in 2012 right before the election and nobody has found any new evidence to suggest that President Obama and his Administration are so evil and callous as to prevent our military from attempting a rescue of Ambassador Stevens and the other victims and then attempt to cover it up, it's fair to say that it is a dead issue. I don't expect the wingnuts and most Republicans in Congress to stop talking about it, particularly if and when Hillary decides to run for POTUS. I'm not certain people will care much about it then, though. We lost lots of people in Embassy attacks during the George W. Bush (mis-)administration but I never recall the kind of outrage and conspiracy theories from John McCain or Lindsey Graham about any of them that we're seeing with #BENGHAZI!!!
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)scandals either. Those are just so yesterday.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,399 posts)In real life, nobody cares about any of that.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)that tries to drudge that stuff up again. Usually they have a whole list of things the president did wrong and why he should be thrown out of office. It has gotten to be kind of routine. I think the starch is kind of going out of that stuff.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,399 posts)a diminishing amount of them, however.
Gothmog
(145,046 posts)Joe is once again wrong. The GOP has claimed to have found smoking guns every other week. The latest "smoking gun" does not change anything. http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/04/30/smoking_gun_shock_benghazi_e_mail_reveals_that_obama_white_house_agreed.html
The #Benghazi story is really tailor-made for the Vox version of journalism, the one with cards and updates explaining what new piece of information explains or debunks what previously understood piece of information. In this case, in order to consider the Rhodes email a "smoking gun," you need to forget the previously known timeline of emails sent on Sept. 14. Luckily, Time's Zeke Miller has left his timeline hanging around on the Internets, so I can add the Rhodes disclosure in bold text.11:15 a.m.: The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,* having asked for talking points, gets a draft from the CIAs Office of Terrorism Analysis. It starts with this line, the one that would undo Susan Rice during her run through the Sunday shows: "We believe based on currently available information that the attacks in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the U.S. consulate and subsequently its annex."
12:23 p.m.: The CIA's office of general counsel adds a line about the "inspired by the protests" theory being inconclusive.
3:04 p.m.: The talking points are sent to relevant White House aides, including Ben Rhodes.
4:42 p.m.: The CIA circulates new talking points but removes a mention of al Qaida.
6:21 p.m.: The White House (Tommy Vietor, not Ben Rhodes) ads a line about the administration warning, on September 10, of social media reports calling for demonstrations.
7:39 p.m.: State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland objects to some of the language because "the penultimate point could be abused by members to beat the State Department for not paying attention to Agency warnings."
8:09 p.m.: Ben Rhodes sends the "smoking gun" email, nine hours after the first draft of talking points from the CIA said that the attacks grew out of a demonstration.
Read that USA Today lede again. It reports that "a White House official urged that the assault on the U.S. consulate be blamed on a protest that never happened." And he didhours after the CIA and State Department were urging that the assault on the U.S. consulate be blamed on a protest. Can we chastise Rhodes, in retrospect, for not being more skeptical of what was known? Ten years after George "slam dunk" Tenet's advice for a prior administration, yes, I think we can. But it's just lazy journalism or lazy politicking to blame Rhodes for a talking point that was fed from the CIA. The White House's shifty-sounding excuse, that the "demonstration" story line came not from its spin factory but from the CIA, remains surprisingly accurate. (And I mean really lazy. It does not take very much time to compare the new Rhodes email to the previously known timeline of emails.)
The smoking gun is an e-mail that the White was agreeing with the CIA and State Department. I am shocked that anyone think that this e-mail changes anything. It would have been surprising if the White House disagreed with the CIA and the State Department.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)Was it just a coincidence that you resigned from congress soon after a perfectly healthy woman dropped dead in your office...??
Rex
(65,616 posts)It amazes me how that scum is not in prison.