Do You Ever Think That The Greenwald/Snowden Haters Need To Move On And Get A Life ???

[WillyT]

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Greenwald has received awards including the first Izzy Award for independent journalism, in 2009,[17] and the 2010 Online Journalism Award for Best Commentary.[18] In June 2013 Greenwald became widely known after The Guardian published the first of a series of reports detailing United States and British global surveillance programmes, based on classified documents disclosed by Edward Snowden.[19][20] The series on which Greenwald worked, along with others, won the 2014 Pulitzer Prize for Public Service.[21][22] His NSA reporting has won numerous other awards around the world, including top investigative journalism prizes from the George Polk Award for National Security Reporting,[23] the 2013 Online Journalism Awards,[24] the Esso Award for Excellence in Reporting in Brazil for his articles in O Globo on NSA mass surveillance of Brazilians (becoming the first foreigner to win the award),[25] the 2013 Libertad de Expresion Internacional award from Argentinian magazine Perfil,[26] and the 2013 Pioneer Award from the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald

The authoritarians and the professional bed-wetters wouldn't have it any other way.

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[Whisp]

1. Obama haters are the ones that should moozey on outta here toward life.

[WillyT]

6. LOL !!! - In Poker... That's Known As A "Tell"... It Has ALWAYS Been About Obama... Thank You...

No need to worry about the 4th Amendment or the Constitution in general...

Protect Obama.

So I guess Democrats don't have principles ??? Only loyalties ???

Wow...



Thanks for the honesty though.

[baldguy]

11. Funny how Snowden & Greenwald didn't have any problem with this shit until the black guy got hired.

[Vattel]

18. ever heard of "post hoc ergo propter hoc"

[baldguy]

24. Do you understand what it means?

Methinks not.

[WillyT]

20. Another Tell !!! - Thank You !!!

[Whisp]

25. just fyi, this site if basically for the support of democrats and the President.

Yes, I have loyalty to Democrats, is that so bad? The people that made this place feel the same, they support Obama and oppose opposition.

Who does your loyalty remain with? Are you sure you didn't take the wrong turn at the Slossin cutoff?

[PeaceNikki]

30. I don't understand the compulsion to defend his "honor" so vehemently here.

So much so that one will start a nasty, petty divisive thread like this to alienate a large group of people with whom they (or presumably do) agree on so much.

He's. Not. Even. A. Democrat.

[WillyT]

32. Which Democrats ??? - Hillary/Warren/Sanders/Lieberman/Emanuel/Zell Milller ???

It ain't that easy Whisp.

[ucrdem]

2. Well, at least he finally cleaned up his wiki page to stop fibbing about the Pulitzer

he didn't win, I'll give him credit for that. More likely it was the wiki editors but never mind, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

[WillyT]

10. Um... Just Curious... How Did The WaPo & Guardian Come By Their Info... And Who Wrote The Stories ??

You guys could give the Tea Party a run for the money.

[ucrdem]

23. Now that's a perfectly legitimate question.

I've often wondered. We're told Eddie rang up Glenn based on his fabulous internet rants but somehow I think there's more to the story. Lot's more. Post a thread and we'll discus it.

[Whisp]

26. someone made him do it.

I doubt he has the integrity to accept he was wrong if he claimed that big fat obese lie to begin with.

someone made him correct that big fat lie. Maybe the Guardian, who I am sure fired his ass.

[ProSense]

3. Well,

"Do You Ever Think That The Greenwald/Snowden Haters Need To Move On And Get A Life ??? The authoritarians and the professional bed-wetters wouldn't have it any other way."

..."do you ever think" that those who launch into cult-like defense of Greenwald, as if saying anything negative about him is sacrilegious, need to "get a life"?

I mean, call Greenwald out on something he said, and there will be countless thread, always including one from a newly arrived poster, stating that he didn't say what he clearly said. The defenders are even offering lessons in sentence structure. LOL!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

8. This ^ ^ ^

[PeaceNikki]

4. Contempt for Greenwald among Democrats and liberals is not unique to DU.

He is not a Democrat. Many of us don't consider him a friend to Democrats. We disagree. Debate what he said or didn't say, but this OP is bullshit, dude. It's nasty and serves only for you and others to get digs in at people with whom you disagree... about this.

shitty

[baldguy]

13. Contempt for Greenwald among Democrats and liberals

Is a reflection of Greenwald's contempt of Democrats and liberals.

[PeaceNikki]

15. Amen.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

14. Debate what he said or didn't say.

Would that you had followed your own directive. I believe you graced an earlier post of mine with a sarcastic " leave Greenwald alone" reply. That was your only output. It added nothing to the conversation. You go right ahead with your admonitions on how one should conduct oneself in a discussion of Glenn Greenwald.

[PeaceNikki]

16. k

I never called anyone names. Or suggest they 'get a life'.

Enjoy your petty little slamfest!

[MohRokTah]

35. .

[el_bryanto]

5. wait a second - hold everything! Professional Bed-wetters?

Why haven't I heard of this before - do you get dental?

Do you have to be certified?

Bryant

[bravenak]

7. Barely made it.

I voted hide.On Fri May 9, 2014, 09:38 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Do You Ever Think That The Greenwald/Snowden Haters Need To Move On And Get A Life ???
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024933077

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Meta and divisive. This serves no purpose other than to divide. This isn't discussing issues, theory, news or events. Just a call to some to rip on others. "authoritarians and the professional bed-wetters wouldn't have it any other way. "

This makes DU suck.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri May 9, 2014, 09:51 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: BS, there's nothing wrong with that post. People alerting on every post they disagree with is what makes DU suck.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "Okay" is a relative term here. The post itself is rude and judgmental, immature, lazy, and shallow.

Personally I don't think it's possible to say yet what sort of person Snowden is (I suspect many people are projecting their own fantasies on him), and I have found too much fawning on DU.

That said, I still have reasonable doubt as to whether this sinks to a violation of community standards.

Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I agree with the alerter. Calling duers haters if they don't love the libertarian Dreamboat Glenn Greewald. Saying they need to 'get a life'. Very insulting to those who want to debate these issues. Some people don't like G or the NSA.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[PeaceNikki]

9. That was my alert. WillyT and I agree on some things, but not this. I find it really shitty.

[bravenak]

21. I agree with the alert and i also like Willy T.

I just think you can dislike the nsa and Greewald at the same time. And still have a life.

[PeaceNikki]

22. Exactly!!

[WillyT]

27. Well Thank You For Your Honesty PeaceNikki... And I Truly Mean That...

I didn't start out the day cruising for Greenwald/Snowden posts... in fact...

I was posting about all sorts of other injustices... Republican mostly...

But I kept running into people who apparently have such a grudge, that they cannot let it go.

There is so much more to do and worry about than this stupid argument, yet this argument sucks up so much of those tasks... (I plead guilty here.)

I truly worry... (just between you and I)...

That there is something else going on here.

What it is... I have no idea.

But IMHO... I think Snowden/Greenwald... WHATEVER THEIR FAULTS... did us all a favor.

Time will tell... no ???

[PeaceNikki]

34. Me, neither. But then you can't escape those threads today, huh?

I know you don't get the slams on him. But I don't understand the compulsion to defend his "honor" so vehemently here. So much so that one will start a nasty, petty divisive thread like this to alienate a large group of people with whom they (or presumably do) agree on so much.

I am one of the people who does not trust Greenwald. I do not *hate* him. Hate is a strong word I reserve for things like mustard.

Anyway... it's just shitty. My $.02. Obviously the jury disagreed.

[MohRokTah]

29. I would've voted to hide. eom

[bravenak]

31. Yeah i had too.Nt

[morningfog]

12. They are a sad lot. I don't really understand their obssession.

The two are not that significant in the grand scheme. But, a few just can't get past them. It is like they are tormented by the very mention of their names. So bizarre. I seriously don't understand the motivation.

[pnwmom]

17. Not if by GG haters you mean anyone who doesn't worship at his feet. n/t

[Fumesucker]

19. Yeah, those who hang out the Snowwald protected group

[MohRokTah]

28. Nice push poll, bro. eom

[Bobbie Jo]

33. I think the fan club needs to take

their own advice.

Dial the defensiveness down a notch or two, seriously. You would think you're being criticized personally.

[Skittles]

36. they will, in 2017

fucking hypocrites

[sheshe2]

37. This is all I need to know about Glenn...

Glenn Greenwald: Supporting the Effort to Find 270 Kidnapped Nigerian Girls is “Horrifying”

In response to an op/ed in The Guardian that calls for feminists in the west to support the effort to find 270 teenage Nigerian girls kidnapped by Islamic jahadists known as Boko Haram, Glenn Greenwald tweeted the following:



So according to Greenwald supporting the effort to find these girls whom the terrorist abductors plan to sell into slavery is ignorant, “horrifying” and “The Next Western Intervention.”
Okay. Awful.
The kidnappings weren’t horrifying — but standing “in solidarity with these girls, their mothers, and their fathers,” the point of the op/ed, is “horrifying” to Greenwald. Perhaps if it was 270 Edward Snowdens who were abducted, Greenwald wouldn’t be so heartless. Meal ticket, etc.

http://thedailybanter.com/2014/05/quote-of-the-day-greenwald-says-supporting-the-effort-to-find-270-kidnapped-nigerian-girls-is-horrifying/



http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024913641

He lost his soul, if he ever had one.