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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow much of a "mutt" are you-in terms of your ancestry?
According to the US Census Bureau's American FactFinder, more than 80 million Americans are estimated to have reported having multiple ancestries in the latest Census.
http://factfinder2.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=ACS_12_1YR_C04005&prodType=table
IMHO, pretty much everyone on the planet is a "mutt" in terms of ancestry.
MADem
(135,425 posts)A little bit of this, a little bit of that...viewed as suspect everywhere I go!
What are the specific ancestries (that you know about, of course!
)
I have English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, French, Luxembourger, German, and Swiss-all within the past few centuries!
MADem
(135,425 posts)But other than that, I can pretty much cover the waterfront!
cabot
(724 posts)Minus the Luxembourger.
Wounded Bear
(64,324 posts)On my mother's side, they traced the ancestry back to the Rhine Valley, so pretty solid German roots there.
On my father's side, they were only able to trace them back to where they stepped off the boat in the 1800's. But Germanic, there, perhaps Sudeten German, but I'm not sure. There was an unsubstantiated family legend that there was a Blackfoot Indian woman somewhere in there, but we don't know for sure.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)1/16 Cherokee
1/16 Cree
1/16 AA
2/16 Scots-Irish
4/16 = 1/4 German
7/16 English
applegrove
(132,216 posts)uriel1972
(4,261 posts)Irish, Welsh, Shetland Islands, Scots and English as far as I am aware. A tour of the UK all in one person I suppose.
ChazII
(6,448 posts)knitter4democracy
(14,350 posts)1/4 German, 1/4 (maybe more from Mom's side) Irish, 1/2 English/Scot (family started in Scotland and moved south, apparently).
applegrove
(132,216 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)my dog however is a pure bred beagle and fucking insane.
silverweb
(16,410 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Half German on both sides of the family. The other half is English, Irish, Norwegian, and Dutch on one side, and Hungarian, Czech, and Ukrainian on the other.
With my kids, we added Cherokee, Spanish, Polish, and more Ukrainian to the mix.
Overall, we're just a family of loveable "mutts" -- members of the only race that counts:
The Human Race.
woodsprite
(12,582 posts)silverweb
(16,410 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]... we're all mutts and we'd best stick together.
Lugnut
(9,791 posts)All four of my grandparents were of Eastern European descent. Three of them were from Czechoslovakia and one was from the Ukraine. All of them were immigrants who came here through Ellis Island.
Sognefjord
(229 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)but that has to do with being Jewish, and being persecuted.
Due to that though, there are some beautiful things I actually got a genetic screen for when in College, because that could have been an issue (nope, I came negative for those, but lovely Tay Sachs is quite deadly)
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)No Vested Interest
(5,297 posts)a tad Native-American.
I've been doing genealogy for over 20 years.
Once the internet developed and people posted and connected to relatives they didn't know, I learned that there may have been Native-American through the French-Canadian line, as some of the ancestors were voyageurs on the Great Lakes, and intermarriage with N-As was common. I have no solid proof, though, as yet.
My father, who was of Irish descent mostly, denied the German part, because he wanted to be 100% Irish. His grandparent had changed the German type name to a similar Irish name, and that's all Dad needed to know. God rest his soul.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)I'm 1/4 French Canadian and we've traced back that part of the family to 16th century France. I think they crossed over in the late 1600's or something. I've always wondered if we had some Native in us...we couldn't tell with the genealogy because often Native or Métis women would take on French names.
Someday I'm going to do the DNA testing.
eShirl
(20,259 posts)It was during a time when the French men were encouraged to take native wives to help strengthen bonds of trust with trading partners.
me b zola
(19,053 posts)My maternal grandfather was French Canadian who was said to hate the French and boasted of Native American blood. My DNA results show that my French ancestry was Basque, so that may well explain French hatred. I had no idea that 25% of the Basque people live in France, bordering the Spanish boarder. And mom always thought that Grandpa was lying about the NA, but there is indeed NA in my ancestry.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)me b zola
(19,053 posts)Got it on sale for $99
lunasun
(21,646 posts)should be a surprise or two I suppose
csziggy
(34,189 posts)Centuries ago the British government encouraged Protestants from mainland Europe to move to Northern Ireland to help hold it. Some of them or their descendants ended up leaving for America because they did not want to follow the Church of England, but continued to rebel against the state religion.
In the same vein, quite a few English, Irish and Scottish Protestants went to Protestant parts of Northern Europe before they left for America.
I have some Northern Irish ancestors who may possibly have been of German descent. They were persecuted for being Quakers and lost a lot because they refused to pay tithes to the Church of England which acted as the defacto taxing agency for the government. They left Ireland after buying land from William Penn. I also have British Quaker ancestors who moved to Holland before leaving for Pennsylvania - one couple were married in Utrecht. It led to a lot of confusion in trying to track those people's parents down, though I was disappointed when I found out I had no Dutch ancestry.
No Vested Interest
(5,297 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)"mutt" ...really?
Its a known fact that we all have a common ancestor so that's a given.
We're here today because of millions of years of evolution and sex. It will blow your mind once you really think of it.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)csziggy
(34,189 posts)So they went to America to found their own place to run. After they got there, factions formed and they kept kicking each other out of the original colonies!
Look up Anne Hutchinson as an example.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)25% German (which is part English and part French if you go back a ways)
25% Ukranian (except where they came from was called "Galicia" then and is part of Poland now)
25% Italian
25% a mishmash of English and Scottish, and that part of the family has been here since the 1600s so I would just call that all "American" at this point
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)I am so pale I am invisible in a snowfall.
me b zola
(19,053 posts)
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)My older sister had that almost transparent, "redhead" skin that never changes color. I remember her trying to tan when I was little, and never succeeding.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)My mother was born in England of Irish immigrants. My father was born in Arkansas probably of Scots/Irish ancestry.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Irish sailors and seamstresses, Welsh coal miners.
intaglio
(8,170 posts)but with rumours of English involvement (Great Grandpa might have been the illegitimate offspring of the local Lord of the Manor) which would explain some elements of family history.
Maternal Grandfather, minor nobility from the Birmingham area. the family claimed its ancestry could be traced back to the Normans.
Paternal Grandmother from Bristol and the lower end of the scale - an excellent chance of non-European blood
Paternal Grandfather a bastard born in Yorkshire to the last unregistered Midwife (wise woman) in the area, family rumour says the Great father might have been a Scot.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)My dad is 100% Ukrainian. My mom is 1/2 French Canadian (traced back to France in the 1500s) and 1/2 German. So that leaves me with 3 types of ancestry. Not overly mutt-ish, LOL, but my kids sure are.
Separation
(1,975 posts)Gonna try to save up and find out which one looks at the most strands and gives the most info. Gonna buy one for me, my wife, and my Grandfather. He is really big into the whole heritage thing. I have a pretty famous relative .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilman_Riemenschneider
GreenPartyVoter
(73,393 posts)eShirl
(20,259 posts)kinda boring really
newfie11
(8,159 posts)But go back to all the invasions into those areas in ancient hx and it's a melting pot.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)50 percent Italian
25 percent Russian
25 percent Swedish
Best of all worlds. A stoic dude that is sun tolerant and hedonistic.
I meet one more person ( such as a couple of my friends when they drink ) that claims they're more "real americans" because they're of English ancestry, I'll kick their heads off. I'm serious.
redgreenandblue
(2,125 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)Yep, mutt all the way.
BainsBane
(57,757 posts)Irish, English, Scottish, and Welsh.
CTyankee
(68,202 posts)Brown, Campbell and Williams are family names and all my people were Southern. My son married a Smith. However, my two daughters mixed it up a little, thank god. I have 3 Jewish granddaughters and an Italian American grandson.
Freddie
(10,104 posts)I'm 1/4 Cornish, paternal grandfather came over "on the boat" as an infant
The rest, PA Dutch; Germans who came over in the early 1700s to farm the rich PA soil.
My kids are 1/4 Irish from their paternal grandfather, so they're even more "muttly" than myself.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)and add a smidgeon of Belgian and German, and you have me.
I have dark brown eyes and dark brown hair, but the Florida sun makes me break out in hives!
pink-o
(4,056 posts)Somewhat mutty, but DEFINITELY 100% peasant and PROUD of it!
Actually, I found out recently my mom's side of the family had some Yorkie aristocracy (her grandfather was an apothecary, who sucked up all the drugs he had acess to, so ended up dying in debt and ostracized from the rest of the family). I even found a maternal family coat-of-arms, which caused my sister and I no small hilarity. We've always identified with the Jew-ey side, and the idea of heraldtry is just ridiculous.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)English,Welsh,(undocumented) Norman French, Irish, Italian, German, Hungarian, Swedish, Lithuanian. Thirty years worth of genealogy.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)that was the crossroads of every invasion from the Beaker People on.
Nine
(1,741 posts)It's like if you're black or Asian or Latino/Hispanic, that's all you are, but if you're white/of European ancestry, there are a thousand "important" variations within that category.
I'm white, by the way.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)Other ethnicities know where they're from, so why does it become a privilege/racial issue for white people to know where we're from? Also, it goes a long way towards showing people who think the white race is so "pure" that it isn't at all.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)Nine
(1,741 posts)senseandsensibility
(24,974 posts)they also come from many different countries, just as whites do. I have more interactions with Asians and Hispanics in my day to day life than I do with whites, although being white, I am very familiar with that dynamic as well. Anyway, for some whites, Asians are Asians. I assure you that they do not see themselves that way. Koreans, Thais, Vietnamese, Chinese, Japanese, Pacific Islanders, Filipinos are some of the categories they may belong to. They do not see themselves as one big group with one big culture, and why should they? The languages and histories are completely different.
Nine
(1,741 posts)It's a bit of a white-centric view to call yourself "mixed" or a "mutt" or anything else that suggests a diverse heritage when all you have is a dozen types of European in you, sometimes even only Western European. You're more likely to think like that if you see "Asian" as a single ethnicity and "Latino" as another single ethnicity and "black" as another single ethnicity. Under that categorization scheme, having lots of kinds of European in you would indeed seem like diversity. But if you realize that those categories are as broad and varied as "white" is, you must see that you really are not very diverse just because you have German, Irish, French, etc. ancestry.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)E.M. Forster
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)I guess I'm 50/50!
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)And that's just the ones of which we are sure. Depending on how ashkenazi Jewish fits into heritage, that too.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)My parents were first generation Americans. So I am 3/4 Irish & 1/4 Polish.
Use to love when my dad would speak with a bit o' the brogue.
Julie
ProfessorGAC
(76,706 posts)Just kidding. I'm italian. My wife is Slovenian and Polish.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)Crepuscular
(1,068 posts)I'm adopted, (closed adoption) so I have no idea. Always kind of wondered about what my ancestral roots might be but at the end of the day it probably doesn't matter a great deal.
No Vested Interest
(5,297 posts)if you're interested.
Some people are interested, others not.
Crepuscular
(1,068 posts)Almost did it last year, somewhat expensive and couldn't decide between the couple of major companies doing the testing and then one of them had a lawsuit so I just never got around to doing it. Maybe someday, or maybe not.
No Vested Interest
(5,297 posts)They apparently overreached in their medical-type claims - detecting genetic tendencies. I see they are advertising again.
You're right, they are not inexpensive.
malaise
(296,111 posts)in terms of ethnicity and culture.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)40 percent black, 30 percent irish (white), 30 percent Native american (cherokee and blackfoot)
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)The other 50% divided among the British isles and Native American.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)Belgian or French or Portuguese.
Though my Grandfathers ancestors where Swedish/Russian/Danish and whoever else held Gotland before Sweden took it for keeps.
MissMillie
(39,652 posts)French Canadian (mom) 50%
English (dad) 25%
Swedish (dad) 25%
oldhippie
(3,249 posts)Both sides of my family, and in fact the vast majority of families in the area where I grew up in the Hudson River Valley (now called Germantown), all came from the German Palatine immigration in 1710. I even have a book tracing all the descendants of my 9th great grandfather who stepped off the boat in May of 1710 in New York. It shows a direct line down to my great, great grandfather who was a farmer in Taghkanic, New York. They were from the area around Saarbrucken, which was then part of Prussia.
City Lights
(25,830 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)Last edited Mon May 26, 2014, 05:49 PM - Edit history (1)
On both sides of the family, just a mix of whatever peoples washed up on those shores over the centuries.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)another matter. Mutts all.
SiobhanClancy
(2,955 posts)since they were split between Mayo and Cork,I guess that makes me a mutt
a la izquierda
(12,336 posts)I have never been to any of these places, identify more with my heritage, but know more about Mexico-my country of professional expertise- than I do about all others.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)CherokeeDem
(3,736 posts)and who knows what else...
We are mostly mutts.....
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)sakabatou
(46,148 posts)RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)I'm Irish, English and Ukranian on my mother's side
French-Morrocan, Italian, Egyptian on my dad's side
My husband is German, English and Blackfoot Indian
exboyfil
(18,359 posts)Both sides of family go back to pre-Revolutionary War. Multi Great Grandson of Chief Cornstalk. Some French but have had a difficult time tracking it (Anglicized name to Menagerie).
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Angles, Saxons, and Jutes. The Vikings (Danes) that conquered eastern Britain were of Germanic origins. Even the Normans (" north men"
were Viking thus originally Germanic. And the French are Germanic, descended from the Franks, a Germanic tribe. Charlemagne, King of the Franks, conquered and established what came to be France, from the void left in Gaul after the Roman Empire collapsed. And of course, the British Royal Family are descendants of German nobility.
ladyVet
(1,587 posts)Humans sure get around, don't they?
I'm mostly Scottish on my father's side and German on my mother's (the so-called Pennsylvania Dutch). Both sides have been in this country since the early 1600s.
There's a little Irish and English thrown in here and there, as well as Native American in both families. It wouldn't surprise me if there was other ethnic groups in my background, but as far as has been researched there's nothing to indicate it.
nykym
(3,063 posts)On both sides.
Grandparents born in the Ukraine.
WatermelonRat
(340 posts)On my mom's side, German, Irish, English, Finn, and Ojibwe.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)but ~60% German, a lot English, some Scandinavian and Cherokee
BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE
genetically Europeans are quite conservative, Western Europe's Y-chromosomal haplogroup R1b arriving with the Ice Age's end and unaffected by the Indo-Europeans moving in (R1a); R has a big cluster at Lake Chad (before the Capsians moved in); Europeans' closest relatives are the Native Americans on the fathers' side, and more distantly the Papuans; the "Nordics" are related to the Balkans and most all the Semites
this was all going on 3000 BC and 18,000 BC, we just move things around more since the 1400s with blue-water ships
http://sinclairthebudgie.deviantart.com/art/Old-World-languages-and-cities-3000-BC-407150252
me b zola
(19,053 posts)If I recall correctly, we began in Doggerland (now submerged in the North Sea) and basically migrated south on Europe's western coast down & around into all of the Mediterranean nations and including Northern Africa.
cabot
(724 posts)Let's see - French, Irish, German, Welsh, English, Scottish, Swiss, and Native American or African -- we're not sure. My brother tends to think our great-grandmother "passed" but my mom says she was Native American. My sister-in-law, who is African-American, took one look at our great-grandmother's picture and said "No way is she Native American."
northoftheborder
(7,637 posts)The roots I know of are all northern European: English, Irish, Scottish - but there have to be some French, German, Viking, Italian, who knows what else. The English alone are a mixture of many ethnicities.
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)Spanish and/or Native American bloodlines, the rest of us were not even counted, except as to what race we considered ourselves. I do not recall any questions having to do w/ "multiple ancestries" or "mix", even of those who were of Spanish or Native American descent. I agree that most of us are probably "mutts", but question that this information actually came from the census figures, unless someone is extrapolating that a Smith w/ Spanish heritage is of "multiple ancestries". Odd
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)Also, somewhere in my travels I ran into an article about that thingie that's supposed to be able to trace your ancestry back 1000 years or something. In that article it said that very mixed peoples, like Bermudans and, ahem, Puerto Ricans (I'm one*) can't really use it.
Ah well. I'm a member of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, and this month's members magazine is devoted to Goya. Somewhere in there it says some guy got "exiled to Puerto Rico" for procuring women for a member of the royal family. Wotta punishment!
Buncha lowlifes we are. Dominoes, rum, hard queso de bola, and salsa playing in the background is all we need...
*I have an oddball last name that traces back to an ancestor that came from Corsica. My niece visited there once and liked it a lot. Seems they passed some law that you have to be a resident for five years before you can buy real estate. She offered to "take one for the team". May her generosity never lead her to poverty...
Codeine
(25,586 posts)I never knew about the Portuguese part until I started digging around on Ancestry.com. It turns out some of the family line that my grandmother tried to pass off as Welsh was really just slightly-misspelled Portuguese family name.
There's also some bullshit about Native american ancestry, but I think it became de rigueur in every family to make that claim in the 60s and 70s -- just the sort of sanctimonious crap my mom or her mom would have pulled.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)My ancestry is mostly English, then Irish, Scots, Welsh, French Huguenot, Palatine German and Dutch. But there's quite a lot of genetic overlap between the peoples of the British Isles; I've seen it estimated that any two given people of British, not specifically English or Scottish, ancestry are likely to be related within the last 20 generations or so.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)rurallib
(64,688 posts)and just about every country
mostly Irish, plus some Czeck, German, english, french, Nordic
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)1/8 Prussian, and part French. Definitely a "mutt."
Thirties Child
(543 posts)Genealogy
1/2 PA Dutch (Swiss, German, Alsatian)
1/2 Southern (English, Welsh, Scottiish, Scots-Irish)
23andMe DNA adds 3% Italian, less than 1% North African, 1%East Asian, 2.7% Neanderthal
Ancestry DNA adds Northern Russian
Because of the X chromosome the Italian probably comes from an Italian woman who lived in Switzerland or near the border.
hunter
(40,691 posts)They didn't come to the U.S.A. for the opportunity, they tended to be escaping bad situations in Ireland, Britain, or Northern Europe. They jumped off the boat and hit the ground running for the Wild West.
There's berserker in my genes. That's why I must be a pacifist and avoid the sun. I don't tan, I burn.
One of my favorite nineteenth century ancestors was a Scandinavian mail order bride to Salt Lake City. She didn't like sharing a husband so she ran off with a U.S. government surveyor and they homesteaded in a wild place that's still a few hundred miles from the nearest Wal-Mart. My mom's cowboy cousin raises cattle there.
My wife is Mexican-Irish-Native_American so maybe our kids are "mutts." Thank goodness they inherited her finer intelligence and not so much my berserker brains.
One of my grandfathers didn't approve of our marriage. People in Old White California were not supposed to marry (in his words) "Mexican girls." He did not attend our wedding. But he got past that. Aside from this ugly, he really did have friends who were black, brown, Jewish, and gay... back when this was as Hollywood-Radical as a white person could get and still find professional work in apartheid white America.
My parents and my wife's parents were the groundbreaking generations. My siblings, and my wife's siblings, we could bring any date to "meet the parents" for dinner, no matter their "ethnicity" or sexual orientation.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)When the subject of ethnicity, family origins came up with my then girlfriend sbe said she was 'Heinz 57'. I told her I preferred A-1.
I am surprised at the number people on DU who have Ukrainian heritage. I'm half Ukrainian, 3/8 Swedish, and 1/8 German.
On my father's side (Ukrainian) if I do an internet search for my surname, I know every single person who shows up in the search. All of them are descendents of my grandparents or a spouse.
On my mother's side, I have three first cousins and their descendents. In addition to those cousins, I have so many second cousins and their descendents that I know only one of them well, and might recognize a few others.
TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)Pretty good mix. Hope nobody was left out.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)The Jewish, Mogol and Gypsy comes from our Hungarian connection.. but not verified.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Not something I spend much time pondering.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)There is, of course, the nearly ubiquitous British settler ancestry first......from both sides of the country(to this date, I've counted every single one of the original 13 States outside of maybe Georgia amongst ancestral birthplaces). I also found a good bit of German and even a bit of Scots-Irish and Irish in there(with a Norwegian, and possibly a Swede and a Finn or two thrown in). But surprisingly enough, there's also a fair amount of Canadian(including French-Canadian), French Huguenot, and Dutch in my various lines as well.
And then there's the connections I've managed to dig up to famous people as well; how about the Carters for starters? And then there's Herbert Hoover, Jimmie Rodgers(yep, the old country star), and quite a few others I probably haven't ever mentioned, here or anyone else.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11561093
miyazaki
(2,650 posts)HipChick
(25,612 posts)bitchkitty
(7,349 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)everything, but actually I'm mostly European, with what I believe is a sliver of Native American. What my father was referring to was his family was pretty much European multi-cultural and my mother as a Chilean rounded out the European with Mediterranean European of Spanish, French and Italian. I do believe there is some NA in the mix too although it was never spoken of. I would like to have my DNA tested to know for sure.
UTUSN
(77,795 posts)Quixote1818
(31,155 posts)because people in those countries were mixing for thousands of years. I was talking to this lady from Ireland and her ancestry was mostly from Spain and yet she would be considered "Irish" today.
A better way to put it is "European" because most of Europe is a mish-mash.
UTUSN
(77,795 posts)catbyte
(39,152 posts)CanonRay
(16,171 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)all from around the Warsaw area, some royal connections.
When I went to Europe, Polish and German people all asked me directions, ha ha . Like I could speak to them or something. I spoke College Spanish
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,947 posts)My Welsh ancestors came over here because the Coal Mines were going out under the ocean and the roof was leaking!
GreenPartyVoter
(73,393 posts)csziggy
(34,189 posts)English, Welsh, Northern Irish (meaning Scot & English), Scot, German, French, Scandinavian. No Eastern or Southern European, nothing outside of Europe and the British Isles.
Since most of my lines have been researched back to the place of origin prior to emigration to the Americas, I am very certain there are no other ancestries in there.
As far as national identification, I guess that would still count as being a "mutt." But it's pretty "pure" as for any other idea of ancestry.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Phenotypically West European. Haplotypically, well, who the fuck knows.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Considering the histories of those regions it's probably easier to guess at what ethnicities I'm not.
Lancero
(3,276 posts)Two separate tribes, so it just depends on how I decide to say it. Could either say half native, or quarter Cherokee and Cheyenne.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)British, Danish, Irish, French, some German, and Native American. Some hail from the Dakotas, and others from NC, and South MO
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)Mali, Ghana, Senegal, Cameroon, Ashkenazi, Iberian Peninsula, Nigeria, Ireland, Middle East, Western Europe, Bantu, Benin, Italy, Great Britain, Northwest Russia, Southeast Asian, Native American.
That's about it, so far.
Thanks to DNA tests.
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)It's fascinating to read about all the different ancestries.
boguspotus
(311 posts)1/8th Polish, 1/16th French Canadian, 1/4th German, The rest is Swede. My Grandfather came over as a kid from Sweden in 1906. Lots of Swedes settled in Western Wisconsin and in Minnesota at that time and became farmers. I know Minneapolis had a number of newspapers printed in Swedish back in the day.
The only bummer about being mostly Swede is that it bugs me that they caved to the Nazis in WW2.....
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)Since the 17th century, when they were whipped in one of the European wars, they have been studiously neutral, and they provided a place for diplomatic maneuverings of many kinds during the war since diplomats from the warring countries were welcome.
Nonetheless, they took in nearly every refuge who could get to their fair land, including almost all the Danish and Norwegian Jews. They also took political refugees and folks from Finland who were in trouble once Finland aligned with Germany against Russia.
Toward the end of the war, Swedish diplomat Raoul Wallenberg did his best to get Hungarian Jews out of Hungary on Swedish passports. He probably died in a Soviet prison, but he did a lot of good.
So, don't feel so bad about that aspect of Swedish history. I'm part Swedish from Michigan, and I have been congratulated on my Swedish ancestry by Jewish people who lost family in the Holocause because of the Swedish attempts to save Jews back then.
boguspotus
(311 posts)Thanks - I didn't know that.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)I visited in 1995 and felt very comfortable. The way things were set up and how the people behaved seemed very comfortable and familiar, but different, too, in a nice way, particularly in the smaller towns. I hope to go back for another visit once my family responsibilities lessen.
I highly recommend it, especially for Swedish-Americans!
boguspotus
(311 posts)We've been talking about it for some time. We just have to get the money together and work out the details. It will happen for sure. If you ever come to Minneapolis, check out the Swedish Institute - pretty cool. They expanded in 2012 - now they have amazing food - hard to get a table : )
http://www.asimn.org/
frogmarch
(12,251 posts)are where my roots lie.
The more muttish, the merrier, I always say!
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)variation on my father's side...probably 90% or more French (via Canada) with a very small smattering of Dutch or German, Portugese, English, and Scots more than 6 generations back, and M'ik Maq as well.
Mom's side, I really don't know, as her line has been somewhat difficult to trace because her father's father was adopted. A lot of her maternal ancestors were also French Canadian, but I don't know any more than that.
If I wanted to go way back in time in France it's possible that some ancestors on my fathers side, living in Normandy, could have been of Viking origin.
Am seriously thinking about DNA testing someday.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Fathers ancestors were from Germany, but I have no info. Mother's family was easy to trace. Came from England, but of Norman background. From Brittany prior to Normandy, and earlist known ancestor was a Saxon who had immigrated to Brittany. Some Swedish blood, but the Scandinavians, Saxons, etc were all Germanic tribes.
Warpy
(114,615 posts)with ancestry on 3 continents in the last 200 years or so, 4 continents if you go back far enough.
And I wouldn't have it any other way. Mixed "race" people usually tend to get the best of both, look at Obama.
"Mixed "race" people usually tend to get the best of both"
Most AA's (probably all)with ancestry 400 years in this country are mixed.
Warpy
(114,615 posts)and no matter how I deplore how they got here and how they got the lighter skin tones, I've always been damned glad they were here. This country would have been a pretty dull place without them.
Skittles
(171,715 posts)English and Norwegian
AnalystInParadise
(1,832 posts)1/4 Galician Spanish (Galician Spanish that emigrated to Texas and where I get my Hispanic roots and last name from)
1/4 Polish
1/4 German
1/8 Scots Irish
1/8 Dutch
When I was in the Army, this ethnic blend made me an odd duck. A white guy with almost platinum blonde hair, light blue eyes, a very dark tan and a Hispanic surname was always a reason for people to take a second glance at me.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)My mother was B- and my father O+. Neither mean much by themselves, but where those blood types are more typically found is interesting coupled with the secrecy that my mother and father had about his background. All I get is he was part Celt like my mother and there were some Indians in his family. My mother's family is racist, it's possible that is the reason for the secrecy. By secrecy I mean they wouldn't talk about his family much at all unlike my mom's side where they would talk about the English/Scot/German mix that they were.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)threads come up, all the Caucasian "mutts" only have European ancestry. Some claim a Native American Background, but never any African ancestry.
Strange
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)because many are not aware of African ancestry.
Usually when people of African ancestry "passe en blanc" they kept their secret hidden.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)European ancestry
AnalystInParadise
(1,832 posts)I am 1/4 Galician Spanish which means that at one time Berbers, Arabs, and Tuaregs ruled over where my family lived.
I am also 1/4 Polish which means that Mongols, Tatars and potentially other Turkish groups ruled over where my family lived.
I have family with roots in Europe 100%, but that does not mean 100% of my ancestry is European.
If I personally knew I had African ancestry, I would be proud to own it.
But my ancestors never owned slaves...
Oakenshield
(628 posts)On my father's side I can trace my ancestry back to Iceland. His grandmother could even speak the language. I apparently have as much as 1/8 Icelandic blood in me. I like to think I get my fascination with stories from that ancestry.
On my mother's side we have German ancestry although that isn't 100% certain. She has a German name certainly, but we can't trace them back to Europe. We do know her ancestors lived among many Pennsylvania Dutch people so I guess that's close enough?
Wolf Frankula
(3,835 posts)Mother's people are Navarrese Basques. I speak and understand some Euskara. Father's people come from the eastern borders of Scotland. My family are horse thieves, nationalist activists, fighters against oppression and union people.
Wolf
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)"Mystery" the rest of the % s. So "mutt" about sums it up. Mutts tend to be quite healthy. Family is very long lived, almost no cancer, no heart disease at all, no stroke, no HTN, no DM.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)My dad was literally left on the steps of a church as an infant by his teenage mother, a member of the Muscogee (Creek) nation. He was raised in an orphanage, ran away to California at age 15.
He never knew his father, but when he was in his 60's, some people contacted him claiming that they were his half brothers and sisters on his dad's side. He was pretty bitter about his childhood and never bothered to respond to them. After he died in 2003, I found some correspondence from them in his stuff. I called them to propose some DNA tests but the older folks had passed on and their children were lukewarm to the idea at best. I had a lot on my plate at the time so I just dropped it. If in fact they were his siblings he was half Irish.
mvd
(65,912 posts)Have Italian, English, German, French, Irish, and some Scottish and Dutch.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)back to the 1500s, mostly all English, but my mother's side is more mysterious. My grandmother's mother got pregnant out of wedlock at 16, so my grandmother was raised by her grandmother, thinking that her birth mother was her older sister. We know nothing about the father. There is rumored to be some Cherokee ancestry somewhere along the family tree, but no one knows for sure.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)That's my great-grandparents' various extractions, respectively.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)and was quite surprised by some of my ancestry. Most of it was European, but I have some Eastern European. One of these days I'll have to try to find information on the rest of my grandparents.
IronLionZion
(51,268 posts)most likely Dutch or Portuguese.