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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Wed May 14, 2014, 02:25 AM May 2014

What Does U.S. Look Like With 10 FEET OF SEA LEVEL RISE?







New research indicates that climate change has already triggered an unstoppable decay of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet. The projected decay will lead to at least 4 feet of accelerating global sea level rise within the next two-plus centuries, and at least 10 feet of rise in the end. What does the U.S. look like with an ocean that is 10 feet higher? The radically transformed map would lose 28,800 square miles of land, home today to 12.3 million people.These figures come from Climate Central research published in 2012, analyzing and mapping every coastal city, county and state in the lower 48 states. (A next generation of research is currently under way.)


More than half of the area of 40 large cities (population over 50,000) is less than 10 feet above the high tide line, from Virginia Beach and Miami (the largest affected), down to Hoboken, N.J. (smallest). Twenty-seven of the cities are in Florida, where one-third of all current housing sits below the critical line — including 85 percent in Miami-Dade and Broward counties. Each of these counties is more threatened than any whole state outside of Florida – and each sits on bedrock filled with holes, rendering defense by seawalls or levees almost impossible.



By the metric of most people living on land less than 10 ft above the high tide line, New York City is most threatened in the long run, with a low-lying population count of more than 700,000. Sixteen other cities, including New Orleans, La.; Norfolk, Va.; Stockton, Calif.; Boston, Mass.; St. Petersburg, Fla.; and Jacksonville, Fla.; are on the list of places with more than 100,000 people below the line. (Much of New Orleans is already below sea level, but is protected at today’s level by levees.)



Climate Central’s enhanced analysis paints a much more detailed pictured for completed states. For example, more than 32,000 miles of road and $950 billion of property currently sit on affected land in Florida. Threatened property in New York and New Jersey totals more than $300 billion. And New England states all face important risks. The predicted sea level rise will take a long time to unfold. The numbers listed here do not represent immediate or literal threats. Under any circumstances, coastal populations and economies will reshape themselves over time. But the new research on West Antarctic Ice Sheet decay — and the amount of humanity in the restless ocean’s way — point to unrelenting centuries of defense, retreat, and reimagination of life along our coasts.









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http://www.climatecentral.org/news/u.s.-with-10-feet-of-sea-level-rise-17428
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What Does U.S. Look Like With 10 FEET OF SEA LEVEL RISE? (Original Post) Segami May 2014 OP
This is depressing beyond words Newsjock May 2014 #1
I know how you feel. calimary May 2014 #12
I dont think its going to be that bad. Mrdrboi May 2014 #2
May I ask.... daleanime May 2014 #3
Im just saying... Mrdrboi May 2014 #11
Well, if ALL the Antarctic ice melted, the ocean would rise 200 feet. eShirl May 2014 #13
It's...... UncleYoder May 2014 #18
Um, Hi Uncle! yodermon May 2014 #46
Well, not to be snarly..... daleanime May 2014 #25
Yeah. No problem. Enthusiast May 2014 #7
You "don't think"?! You DO know that scientists aren't school drop-outs, right? WinkyDink May 2014 #16
the entire problem with the whole global warming thing can be found right here in the posters leftyohiolib May 2014 #20
From the scientists in the article... yawnmaster May 2014 #43
Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's not going to happen. Arugula Latte May 2014 #28
kick, kick, kick..... daleanime May 2014 #4
Waterworld. With drones. blkmusclmachine May 2014 #5
well, I'm glad Alaska and Hawaii won't be affected. roguevalley May 2014 #6
A lot of big cities on our Eastern seaboard. merrily May 2014 #8
Now we know why Repubs want this to happen... Helen Borg May 2014 #9
Nobody here will be around to see it. 200 years is a lot of time to adjust to it. eom yawnmaster May 2014 #10
So because you won't be around to see it malaise May 2014 #14
I made my point exactly. Humans are adaptable. One of our best features... yawnmaster May 2014 #32
Neil DeGrasse Tyson: ohheckyeah May 2014 #47
Bwah!! "200 years is a lot of time to adjust to it." ZERO historical perspective here! WinkyDink May 2014 #17
you are right! 100 years is actually plenty. eom yawnmaster May 2014 #33
Is it natural? daleanime May 2014 #26
huh? eom yawnmaster May 2014 #34
Sorry, trying hard not to break the 11th commandment... daleanime May 2014 #37
Yes, that +1ft of rise by 2020 is SOOOO far away justiceischeap May 2014 #38
Those numbers are nowhere in the article. It is 10 feet in 200 years!... yawnmaster May 2014 #42
All you have to do is go to this link justiceischeap May 2014 #44
Dude, that's not sea-rise they are showing! yawnmaster May 2014 #45
To think about it in another way... Historic NY May 2014 #15
Completely underwater isn't quite the same as a "surge." WinkyDink May 2014 #19
Starts with one.... daleanime May 2014 #27
I would be in the gray area - TBF May 2014 #21
Look for a houseboat if you are planning to be living 200 years from now. former9thward May 2014 #24
BTW, thanks for the OP - TBF May 2014 #22
About one in every five US kids goes to bed hungry... Demo_Chris May 2014 #23
200 years? My youngest grandchild was born a couple of days ago and even that child will ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #29
"Why should we care?" WTF?...nt SidDithers May 2014 #30
Totally substance free response, as usual... WTF? ... LOL... It's highly appropriate the you're ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #31
Much as "why should we care" also being one? LanternWaste May 2014 #36
So you are also unable to recognize a post that was meant specifically to ellicit ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #39
Within the context of the article, that is, taking 200 years for the sea to rise... yawnmaster May 2014 #35
"Why should we care?" awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #40
I"m not a republican. I've never once voted for a republican nor does my posting ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #41

Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
1. This is depressing beyond words
Wed May 14, 2014, 02:39 AM
May 2014

I hope to hell I die peacefully before the world stops being mostly peaceful.

Mrdrboi

(110 posts)
2. I dont think its going to be that bad.
Wed May 14, 2014, 02:41 AM
May 2014

How much ice melt would it take to rise the sea level 10ft?

I can see a few FT rise but not 10.

Mrdrboi

(110 posts)
11. Im just saying...
Wed May 14, 2014, 05:06 AM
May 2014

How do they think its going to be 10FT rise?

I wanna know how much ice melt to make it rise 10FT.

eShirl

(20,259 posts)
13. Well, if ALL the Antarctic ice melted, the ocean would rise 200 feet.
Wed May 14, 2014, 05:29 AM
May 2014

The ice covering Greenland alone, if melted, would raise the ocean 20 feet.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geophysics/question473.htm


 

UncleYoder

(233 posts)
18. It's......
Wed May 14, 2014, 07:44 AM
May 2014

It's already a hundred and ten in the summer, and if it gets one degree hotter, I'm gonna kick your ass!

Hank Hill

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
25. Well, not to be snarly.....
Wed May 14, 2014, 11:18 AM
May 2014

but it's called science. Yeah, it's a lot of ice and it's all melting. And the oceans that exist currently are heating up. So what happens to objects as they heat up? 10 feet will take some time, but we've been hitting all the milestones faster then expected.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
20. the entire problem with the whole global warming thing can be found right here in the posters
Wed May 14, 2014, 08:01 AM
May 2014

1st sentence. " I dont think its going to be that bad." unless youre a phuking scientist you arent allowed to "think" differently

yawnmaster

(2,812 posts)
43. From the scientists in the article...
Wed May 14, 2014, 04:39 PM
May 2014

"The predicted sea level rise will take a long time to unfold. The numbers listed here do not represent immediate or literal threats. Under any circumstances, coastal populations and economies will reshape themselves over time."

emotions on both sides need to be calmed.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
8. A lot of big cities on our Eastern seaboard.
Wed May 14, 2014, 04:19 AM
May 2014

Danged Euro settlors found a harbor, dropped anchor and started building housing.

malaise

(296,114 posts)
14. So because you won't be around to see it
Wed May 14, 2014, 05:51 AM
May 2014

we can continue to destroy the planet?

What exactly is your point?

yawnmaster

(2,812 posts)
32. I made my point exactly. Humans are adaptable. One of our best features...
Wed May 14, 2014, 12:50 PM
May 2014

and 200 years is plenty of time to adjust to changing conditions.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
17. Bwah!! "200 years is a lot of time to adjust to it." ZERO historical perspective here!
Wed May 14, 2014, 07:43 AM
May 2014

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
37. Sorry, trying hard not to break the 11th commandment...
Wed May 14, 2014, 01:04 PM
May 2014

making me a little cryptic.




OK, a lot cryptic.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
38. Yes, that +1ft of rise by 2020 is SOOOO far away
Wed May 14, 2014, 01:15 PM
May 2014

and hell, that won't effect ANYTHING at all on the East Coast. /sarcasm

yawnmaster

(2,812 posts)
42. Those numbers are nowhere in the article. It is 10 feet in 200 years!...
Wed May 14, 2014, 04:37 PM
May 2014

Quoted from the article of the OP...

"The predicted sea level rise will take a long time to unfold. The numbers listed here do not represent immediate or literal threats. Under any circumstances, coastal populations and economies will reshape themselves over time."

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
44. All you have to do is go to this link
Wed May 14, 2014, 05:29 PM
May 2014

which I believe is the second link in the OP. You can see what is effected within 6 years.

http://sealevel.climatecentral.org/

yawnmaster

(2,812 posts)
45. Dude, that's not sea-rise they are showing!
Wed May 14, 2014, 07:17 PM
May 2014

That is sea rise, plus storm surge, plus tide.
and even with that it states a probability of greater then 16% (seems to be the lowest percentage they show).

On the same site, sea rise estimates are about what is stated above - about 100 - 200 years to get a 10 foot sea rise.

Historic NY

(40,037 posts)
15. To think about it in another way...
Wed May 14, 2014, 06:27 AM
May 2014

the east coast could be worst. I would be like having Superstorm Sandy storm surge on a permanent basis. NY city is scrambling now to build higher sea walls, which would still be useless.

TBF

(36,669 posts)
21. I would be in the gray area -
Wed May 14, 2014, 08:11 AM
May 2014

we are way too close to the coast in Texas.

Maybe we should be looking for a houseboat.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
24. Look for a houseboat if you are planning to be living 200 years from now.
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:02 AM
May 2014

That is a minimum. The estimates are up to 1000 years from now. Somehow I think people will be able to adjust to something happening over a 1000 year period.

TBF

(36,669 posts)
22. BTW, thanks for the OP -
Wed May 14, 2014, 08:12 AM
May 2014

this is very important and despite the RWing'ers denial we need to be talking about it.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
23. About one in every five US kids goes to bed hungry...
Wed May 14, 2014, 09:55 AM
May 2014

About one in every ten have no home of their own.

We could fix this, actually FIX it, with nothing more than a majority in the House and a super in the Senate. Put another way, we COULD HAVE FIXED IT with the congress Obama was originally elected with, but we were more concerned with passing taxpayer funded banker bailouts and insurance mandates and thus never got around to it. But we could fix it, today, with a simple vote. That's all it would take.

Fixing this is on an entirely different scale in terms of challenge. It is, in fact, impossible. Which is why the "How" portion gets glossed over in every one of these discussions. The oligarchs do have a plan for dealing with it however. It's very simple actually. It is: they will go on as they always have, jetting between their private islands and preserves in their private jets and yachts, and everyone else can go ahead and die. They aren't going to stop driving, you are. They see themselves motoring along in diamond plated quad-turbo hyper limos past peasants -- broken and old at thirty-- dragging plows behind horses. A chasm so vast that the wealthy might as well be a different species.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
29. 200 years? My youngest grandchild was born a couple of days ago and even that child will
Wed May 14, 2014, 11:35 AM
May 2014

be gone before this is a reality. That grandchild's grandchildren will be gone.

Why should we care?

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
31. Totally substance free response, as usual... WTF? ... LOL... It's highly appropriate the you're
Wed May 14, 2014, 12:10 PM
May 2014

Last edited Wed May 14, 2014, 12:53 PM - Edit history (1)

the first to respond to my comment.



It's also funny how you follow me around...and creepy.

Do you have a response that someone can actually use, you know, something with substance? After all, my comment was intended to draw out the reasons why we should care today about the sea level 200 years from now, not clueless 3-letter replies like: "WTF?"

Also, please link to a substantive post that was crafted by you. I'm just interested in knowing if you've ever said anything thoughtful or useful.

I submit here and now that you have never posted a single, meaningful, thought-provoking post during you entire tenure on DU.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
36. Much as "why should we care" also being one?
Wed May 14, 2014, 12:58 PM
May 2014

" Totally substance free response, as usual..."

Much as "why should we care" also being one? Six of one, half a dozen of the other...
(insert distinction without a difference here-- as it would look odd for you to indict others for the same guilt you hold)

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
39. So you are also unable to recognize a post that was meant specifically to ellicit
Wed May 14, 2014, 01:17 PM
May 2014

responses to a specific question?

Oh well... The point of my response to Sid is that I have NEVER seen a single useful or thoughtful comment from him. Have you? If so, please point to it...

As for my post, it was meant to draw out the reasons we should care now. That, to me, is not substanceless, such as "WTF?" is substanceless.

yawnmaster

(2,812 posts)
35. Within the context of the article, that is, taking 200 years for the sea to rise...
Wed May 14, 2014, 12:57 PM
May 2014

I agree. Man can adapt to that, either by dealing with it directly or slowly moving away from the affected areas.

and from a different view...
everyone here on this board and reading this will be dead and gone in less than 100 years.
All cares will have ceased. They will have no knowledge of how things go or of success or failure, since they will not exist any longer!
So why care about such things that happen long after one ceases to exist?

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
41. I"m not a republican. I've never once voted for a republican nor does my posting
Wed May 14, 2014, 02:01 PM
May 2014

history here bear out that I am a republcan.

Now, can you elaborate a fucking useful response to my question or are you only capable of insults?

I'll ask again: Why should we care?

Now, see if you can provide a response that may be useful to someone viewing your response who wonders why we should care now about something that is to happen long past our lifespan and the lifespans of even our grandchildren.

If you cannot answer, then keep your childish insults to yourself.

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