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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Mon May 19, 2014, 04:35 PM May 2014

400-plus years for rape of targeted lesbian

The ringleader of a 2008 gang rape of a Richmond woman who was allegedly targeted because she is a lesbian and then taunted during the attack was sentenced to more than 411 years to life in prison, a prosecutor said Monday.

Humberto Salvador, 36, of Richmond was found guilty in December by a Contra Costa County Superior Court jury in Martinez of rape in concert, forcible oral copulation in concert, kidnapping for sexual purposes and kidnapping for the purpose of carjacking.

At a hearing Friday, Judge Susanne Fenstermacher sentenced Salvador to 411 years and four months to life in prison for the attack on the victim, who was referred to as Jane Doe. She wasn't present in court, but prosecutor Melissa Smith read a statement from Jane Doe's partner.

"She has lost the will to live," the statement read. "Although she is alive, they killed her inside. Every day is a battle for her to live without fear, and her life is not the same as it was. She is permanently scarred. My family is damaged as well. We now live in the dark because the curtains are always drawn to shut the world out. She is now afraid to go outside the house because she thinks they will be waiting for her."

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/400-plus-years-for-rape-of-targeted-lesbian-5489586.php

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400-plus years for rape of targeted lesbian (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA May 2014 OP
Some crimes defy ever having enough justice Skidmore May 2014 #1
+1 million Louisiana1976 May 2014 #31
Like Forrest Gump said, "sometimes there just aren't enough rocks". OregonBlue May 2014 #32
The other three rapists seveneyes May 2014 #2
I wonder if those sentences will be cut in half. Aren't they usually? bettyellen May 2014 #17
They won't do much of that time, I'm sure of it. Unless things have changed, and I doubt it. freshwest May 2014 #19
Ugh, I wish we had better victims compensation. She needs a new start and some good long term bettyellen May 2014 #20
I posted below a reply to Nolabear: freshwest May 2014 #23
Well said. They should be locked up and the key thrown away. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #30
My heart goes out to "Jane Doe". sheshe2 May 2014 #3
Seconded. Times infinity. ='( AverageJoe90 May 2014 #14
Good on the judge! Behind the Aegis May 2014 #4
Well, he can still get out for good behavior after 205 years. NuclearDem May 2014 #5
0 for 2, man. merrily May 2014 #33
There are still places in the world where rape is considered a cure for lesbianism theHandpuppet May 2014 #6
Well, they just don't understand jeff47 May 2014 #7
The USA is one of them: freshwest May 2014 #21
It's shit like this Egnever May 2014 #8
Because violence by the state in our name sets a good example for individuals? merrily May 2014 #34
don't believe that. he will be out and walking the streets in 120 years. arely staircase May 2014 #9
The result of fundamentalist religion in an oligarchy. nt valerief May 2014 #10
K&R Solly Mack May 2014 #11
Good! Good. Rot in prison, you POS douchebag. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #12
kick & recommended. William769 May 2014 #13
Six years and she is still unable to function. nolabear May 2014 #15
The person I know of who suffered something similiar... has not recovered with intensive for over freshwest May 2014 #22
I'm sorry. Sometimes people just don't recover. What a loss. nolabear May 2014 #26
All it takes is an opportunity to abuse and a lack of respect for others. Predators exist. freshwest May 2014 #28
When I'm in my professional mind I can be curious but I am boggled by it. nolabear May 2014 #36
Good verdict. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #16
I abhor the death penalty, but 400 years to life sounds appropriate for this monster. n/t AAO May 2014 #18
400 years is not enough. 47of74 May 2014 #24
Or death which ever comes first AAO May 2014 #25
Yeah, guess not. 47of74 May 2014 #29
Someone PLEASE give "Jane Doe" a medicinal dose of MDMA derby378 May 2014 #27
I see this as an appropriate sentence. Enthusiast May 2014 #35

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
1. Some crimes defy ever having enough justice
Mon May 19, 2014, 04:40 PM
May 2014

delivered. My heart goes out to this woman, her partner, and and her family. Such a horrible vicious crime.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
2. The other three rapists
Mon May 19, 2014, 04:43 PM
May 2014

In January, Ortiz pleaded guilty to forcible oral copulation in concert for the benefit of a gang and carjacking in exchange for a 31-year prison sentence.

Hodges pleaded guilty in December to forced oral copulation and was sentenced to 24 years in prison.

A fourth defendant, Josue Gonzalez, who testified against Salvador in his trial, pleaded guilty in February to carjacking and robbery and was sentenced to 13 years in prison.
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Why are these other rapists not locked up for the rest of their lives? They should never see the light of day for this kind of abuse against another human.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
17. I wonder if those sentences will be cut in half. Aren't they usually?
Mon May 19, 2014, 06:31 PM
May 2014

I remember someone hear complaining how unfair it was to add kidnapping charges if they didn't take the victim far away. It;s not enough they are dragging em off?
Jeeze.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
19. They won't do much of that time, I'm sure of it. Unless things have changed, and I doubt it.
Mon May 19, 2014, 06:44 PM
May 2014

The woman's life was, for all intents and purposes, ended. They enjoyed her humiliation and suffering as much as a pack of dogs tearing their prey into pieces, which I have witnessed myself. They saw no crime there.

If she commits suicide to escape what they did to her for their own pleasure they will not be tried for murder. In fact, it'll likely help them to get out. She and her family is right to not leave home, as these men have supporters that may mean her harm.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
20. Ugh, I wish we had better victims compensation. She needs a new start and some good long term
Mon May 19, 2014, 06:51 PM
May 2014

therapy. I hope to god she is not still in that neighborhood.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
6. There are still places in the world where rape is considered a cure for lesbianism
Mon May 19, 2014, 04:59 PM
May 2014

It's called "corrective rape".

Yes, that will do it. Rape a woman and she's sure to go straight.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
34. Because violence by the state in our name sets a good example for individuals?
Tue May 20, 2014, 05:52 AM
May 2014

No thanks. One wrong does not undo another.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
12. Good! Good. Rot in prison, you POS douchebag.
Mon May 19, 2014, 06:22 PM
May 2014


Well, at least he won't be victimizing any more women, that's for sure.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
15. Six years and she is still unable to function.
Mon May 19, 2014, 06:26 PM
May 2014

What a tragic thing. She needs intensive therapy. I hope having these people locked away helps advance her toward getting what she needs to take up life again.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
22. The person I know of who suffered something similiar... has not recovered with intensive for over
Mon May 19, 2014, 07:03 PM
May 2014
twenty years and it will never be over until death.

The ringleader may be released at any time. The victim and family know his comrades still walk free and the danger was not ended at the trial.

Everyone in the family and the victim has lost their health by the derangement their child suffered and continues to suffer.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
26. I'm sorry. Sometimes people just don't recover. What a loss.
Mon May 19, 2014, 08:26 PM
May 2014

Hard to fathom what it takes to make people able to be so cruel.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
28. All it takes is an opportunity to abuse and a lack of respect for others. Predators exist.
Mon May 19, 2014, 08:44 PM
May 2014

And they believe in their right to do exactly what they do. I know this is a subject you, too, care very deeply about and have a great deal of knowledge. But after years of trying to clean up the walking wounded from their acts, I'm no longer puzzled at predators and have no interest in their reasoning, only how to prevent them from continuing.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
36. When I'm in my professional mind I can be curious but I am boggled by it.
Tue May 20, 2014, 03:24 PM
May 2014

I understand that an individual can be so incredibly broken as to be something unfathomable to those of us who have empathy and think of fellow humans as deserving of care and respect. But a group, planning and carrying out an attack like that is beyond anything I can comprehend. There are horrors out there, and we're not going to fix them. The best we can do is try to provide a world that is caring enough and gives enough to its children so that the fewest number possible grow up to be that way.

And not despair. And that's hard, but I know that media flashes the extremes in front of us every day, and the vast majority of kind, ordinary human beings are never known.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
18. I abhor the death penalty, but 400 years to life sounds appropriate for this monster. n/t
Mon May 19, 2014, 06:31 PM
May 2014
 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
24. 400 years is not enough.
Mon May 19, 2014, 07:07 PM
May 2014

I was thinking more in the range of 10,000 to 250,000 years in prison with no possibility of reprieve or parole.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
25. Or death which ever comes first
Mon May 19, 2014, 08:04 PM
May 2014

We don't want to pay for a corpse occupying a cell for 400 years, do we?

derby378

(30,262 posts)
27. Someone PLEASE give "Jane Doe" a medicinal dose of MDMA
Mon May 19, 2014, 08:37 PM
May 2014

PTSD is a hell of a thing to endure. There have been some promising results from therapeutic uses of MDMA, but our Federal government needs to get off its ass and reclassify it as Schedule II so that you don't need an act of Congress just to run a clinical trial.

My heart goes out to her, and I hope she finally finds peace and strength at last.

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