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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
Thu May 22, 2014, 01:23 PM May 2014

Elizabeth Warren is Dead to Me. Dead.

I knew it was bad when Elizabeth Warren didn't personally camp out at Occupy, but this... this is the end of the line for me and her:

OH SHIT...Elizabeth Warren just praised Obamacare

It's over.

I'm back to praying for a Kucinich/Greenwald ticket in 2016.

Regards,

Liberal-who-exists-only-in-Third-Way-fantasies Manny

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Elizabeth Warren is Dead to Me. Dead. (Original Post) MannyGoldstein May 2014 OP
Obviously you should run, n-Way-Manny. tridim May 2014 #1
Oh my Aerows May 2014 #5
Just don't eat pie. MannyGoldstein May 2014 #6
And don't divide pi by two either mindwalker_i May 2014 #34
Is that a radian joke? MannyGoldstein May 2014 #72
I'm sure you're acutely aware of that mindwalker_i May 2014 #73
Cosh, that's hyperbolic MannyGoldstein May 2014 #74
Nice mindwalker_i May 2014 #87
Fellow asymptotes? Paulie May 2014 #102
DUzy for subthread! n/t eridani May 2014 #78
Already Decided 2016 billhicks76 May 2014 #49
We. Do. Not. Care. MineralMan May 2014 #2
Except to keep this kicked. theaocp May 2014 #7
Oh its you. bahrbearian May 2014 #21
Why, yes, it is. MineralMan May 2014 #22
Is that the 'royal We'? If not, please list those for whom you speak. SaveOurDemocracy May 2014 #28
Nah. It's the Anonymous We. MineralMan May 2014 #30
That was actually funny. nt MannyGoldstein May 2014 #36
LOL nt arely staircase May 2014 #58
Oh great finger-wagger Ishoutandscream2 May 2014 #42
We DO care! sabrina 1 May 2014 #54
That's nice. MineralMan May 2014 #65
I think so. As you can see, it's never a good idea to speak for other people. sabrina 1 May 2014 #75
And, yet, you often pretend to speak for Democrats. MineralMan May 2014 #90
*SNICKER* Sheepshank May 2014 #94
Oh 'schnaaap'! Not if they so widely miss their target! sabrina 1 May 2014 #105
Oh SCCHNNAPP!!! Number23 May 2014 #100
You're confused, I speak for me alone. The fact that so many often agree with me, simply means sabrina 1 May 2014 #104
We. Do. Care. Capt. Obvious May 2014 #3
I Care... WillyT May 2014 #4
I care a LOT Oilwellian May 2014 #8
It's a dirty job but someone's gotta do it... Whoa-whoa-oooh-oooh... nomorenomore08 May 2014 #101
Oh come on, Manny...you can do better than that!! Cali_Democrat May 2014 #9
That's a very easy mistake to make MannyGoldstein May 2014 #11
IMHO this is the perfect observation about your thread. hootinholler May 2014 #18
This place has gone off the boredom cliff Capt. Obvious May 2014 #26
The Blue Dogs get bored because there are so many subjects here that they rhett o rick May 2014 #43
Yeah notice how they NEVER post in any of those threads? Rex May 2014 #46
They dont meet my definition of Democrats. But if you ask them they will rhett o rick May 2014 #56
+100000 mmonk May 2014 #63
Even better Capt. Obvious May 2014 #55
I think they think they want freedom and liberty but they are not rhett o rick May 2014 #57
There's a point where we need to drop the polite fiction Scootaloo May 2014 #76
As frustrated as I get, I wont go that far. I mean some are probably. rhett o rick May 2014 #83
Not exactly MannyGoldstein May 2014 #99
threads by Manny arely staircase May 2014 #10
For Manny.. Lochloosa May 2014 #15
Manny Approved THis Post Scootaloo May 2014 #77
Which is probably why they are always so INCREDIBLY boring and predictable. Number23 May 2014 #88
Ummm.... I hate it to break it to you, but Kucinich voted "yes" on Obamacare. Nye Bevan May 2014 #12
Kucinich on the Affordable Care Act: "I hope the law is upheld." ProSense May 2014 #16
And so did Bernie! Oops! LOL! Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2014 #44
Oopsie! BlueCaliDem May 2014 #19
Well, to be fair, not until he was taken for a special ride on Air Force One, if I recall correctly. djean111 May 2014 #51
Was it really that upsetting? Hey, ProSense May 2014 #13
Bringing It Back To Hillary billhicks76 May 2014 #47
Are you joking or are you serious Manny? hrmjustin May 2014 #14
Perhaps he's "Ha Ha Only Serious" Manny Electric Monk May 2014 #27
ME look at ME! snooper2 May 2014 #17
Post removed Post removed May 2014 #81
what are you talking about? snooper2 May 2014 #86
Oh Manny. Say it aint so pscot May 2014 #20
they really can't comprehend that liking someone because they'll push policies MisterP May 2014 #23
Correct you are! No comprehension, or else deliberately (and transparently) pretending. djean111 May 2014 #52
You're dead to me, can opener! TlalocW May 2014 #24
I'm holding out for a Nader-Snowden ticket. Fuddnik May 2014 #25
I'm sure a lot of heads are exploding, right now. bahrbearian May 2014 #37
Or a Cintion - Christie ticket. The Blue Dogs would go crazy. nm rhett o rick May 2014 #40
Marx-Lennon in 2016 Jack Rabbit May 2014 #29
Honestly I think the third way would go for TBF May 2014 #31
There was a joke here prior to the 2004 election Jack Rabbit May 2014 #35
Dont laugh. I think the Third Way would like a Clinton-Christie ticket. rhett o rick May 2014 #41
Christie as Hillary's running mate? Jack Rabbit May 2014 #53
They say that winning is more important then integrity. That's why they like Clinton. rhett o rick May 2014 #59
Hmm... Sean or Julian? Electric Monk May 2014 #33
Unfortunately, both John & Groucho are dead. Jackpine Radical May 2014 #60
Even dead, they couldn't be worse most politicians, heads of state or captains of industry nowadays Jack Rabbit May 2014 #70
And we could pretty well guarantee they could carry Chicago. Jackpine Radical May 2014 #91
You mean Rahm doesn't have that consituancy all sewed up? Jack Rabbit May 2014 #103
Wato says it makes little difference. Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #32
Literary Devices: Here is a helpful website to help DUers who may need these explanations Zorra May 2014 #38
Thank you. scarletwoman May 2014 #61
Manny always whooshes right over their heads. It's so damn funny. Autumn May 2014 #84
hard to say... bobduca May 2014 #85
Nonsense..... Veracious May 2014 #39
Others have tried, but Obama is the only one who has succeeded in getting any kind of Cal33 May 2014 #45
Post removed Post removed May 2014 #48
Oh...you... Rex May 2014 #50
Thank you. When I saw that thread yesterday, I was tempted to reply scarletwoman May 2014 #62
+1 reddread May 2014 #64
they're even trying to hide behind Grayson and Warren--like they'd ever support her MisterP May 2014 #67
Some people have very odd notions of how best to persuade someone to support their candidate. winter is coming May 2014 #68
"Don't feed the trolls" is good advice. pa28 May 2014 #71
^^^ This ^^^ malokvale77 May 2014 #79
Should there be little sarcasm smilies? I'm confused. But I still support Julian Castro! McCamy Taylor May 2014 #66
Makes sense she would. After all, she was once a Republican. Scuba May 2014 #69
K & R malokvale77 May 2014 #80
Kick bobduca May 2014 #82
and the results are in Warren Stupidity May 2014 #89
They got him 6-1 up above Capt. Obvious May 2014 #92
well that one was out of line. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #93
True but Capt. Obvious May 2014 #95
But it's *true* for the OP. nt MannyGoldstein May 2014 #97
I will vote for Kucinich/Greenwald... Stellar May 2014 #96
Draft Manny for 2016 IronLionZion May 2014 #98

tridim

(45,358 posts)
1. Obviously you should run, n-Way-Manny.
Thu May 22, 2014, 01:27 PM
May 2014

The field is wide f'ing open!

Anyway, I'm certain that you believe you can win the big enchilada, with a side of refried beans.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
5. Oh my
Thu May 22, 2014, 01:45 PM
May 2014

You just reminded me that I haven't had lunch yet, and an enchilada with a side of refried beans sounds *WONDERFUL*. :sigh: Hopefully I will be able to go to lunch soon.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
73. I'm sure you're acutely aware of that
Thu May 22, 2014, 09:16 PM
May 2014

Sorry, my sense of humor is a little obtuse, and I tend to go off on tangents.

It's a sine of a twisted mind.

MineralMan

(151,198 posts)
30. Nah. It's the Anonymous We.
Thu May 22, 2014, 03:01 PM
May 2014

Those for whom I speak are legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us.

I remain,

Anonymously MineralManny

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
105. Oh 'schnaaap'! Not if they so widely miss their target!
Fri May 23, 2014, 11:09 PM
May 2014


That little guy is in honor of one of my favorite and most eloquent DUers!

Number23

(24,544 posts)
100. Oh SCCHNNAPP!!!
Fri May 23, 2014, 09:38 PM
May 2014


I have never, EVER seen you go off on ANYBODY. Oh, that was worth the wait.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
104. You're confused, I speak for me alone. The fact that so many often agree with me, simply means
Fri May 23, 2014, 11:06 PM
May 2014

THEY feel I am speaking for them. Some people speak for me also, and when they do, even though they are not claiming to do so, I often tell them I appreciate their speaking for me.

That is quite different from someone who thinks they speak for others, only to be told more oftne than not, they do not.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
9. Oh come on, Manny...you can do better than that!!
Thu May 22, 2014, 02:04 PM
May 2014

I figured you'd have a better response to my thread than this!!!



Looks like I overestimated your abilities....

hootinholler

(26,451 posts)
18. IMHO this is the perfect observation about your thread.
Thu May 22, 2014, 02:26 PM
May 2014


Especially considering your reply here.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
26. This place has gone off the boredom cliff
Thu May 22, 2014, 02:49 PM
May 2014

with the same groups of people trying to troll each other 12 times a day and usually not in clever ways.

Actual interesting shit drops off the front page.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
43. The Blue Dogs get bored because there are so many subjects here that they
Thu May 22, 2014, 04:00 PM
May 2014

all boycott. Subjects like fracking, XL Pipeline, the TPP, criticism of Wall Street, indefinite detention, and more. Interesting that so-called liberal Democrats wouldnt have any opinion on these very important issues.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
46. Yeah notice how they NEVER post in any of those threads?
Thu May 22, 2014, 04:20 PM
May 2014

It seems all they can do is concern troll easy threads like this one. That is nice of you to call them Blue Dogs...I don't think they are anything close to being Dems.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
56. They dont meet my definition of Democrats. But if you ask them they will
Thu May 22, 2014, 06:03 PM
May 2014

tell you they are liberal. Go figure. Some of them have good hearts but they can not stand up to authority.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
55. Even better
Thu May 22, 2014, 05:55 PM
May 2014

they openly mock liberal ideals that you'd think they'd embrace.

Well, I don't think they would.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
57. I think they think they want freedom and liberty but they are not
Thu May 22, 2014, 06:05 PM
May 2014

willing to stand up for it. They are authoritarians.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
76. There's a point where we need to drop the polite fiction
Thu May 22, 2014, 09:57 PM
May 2014

They're not Blue Dogs. They're not Third Way.

They're Republicans.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
83. As frustrated as I get, I wont go that far. I mean some are probably.
Thu May 22, 2014, 10:42 PM
May 2014

What a great way to disrupt. Pretend you're an Obama fan and blast all that dare challenge any of his policies. But I think most would or have stood up against the Republicans like Bush. My idea is that they are authoritarians. While they might really want freedoms, liberties, and an end to the growing wealth gap, they wont challenge anyone with a (D) behind their name. They dont question authority. So when Pres Obama accepts fracking, the Pipeline, the TPP, etc. they keep their heads down and attack those like Snowden and Greenwald that might embarrass the WH.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
88. Which is probably why they are always so INCREDIBLY boring and predictable.
Fri May 23, 2014, 02:40 AM
May 2014

Not that his (dwindling numbers of) panting fans ever seem to care.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
16. Kucinich on the Affordable Care Act: "I hope the law is upheld."
Thu May 22, 2014, 02:21 PM
May 2014
Kucinich on the Affordable Care Act: "I hope the law is upheld."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002503243

Kucinich: Supreme Court Upholds (ACA), A Key Step in the Long Fight for Medicare For All
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002871293

Yes. He. Did.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
44. And so did Bernie! Oops! LOL!
Thu May 22, 2014, 04:05 PM
May 2014

If Manny hates Lizzie, then it just reaffirms my love for her!!

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
51. Well, to be fair, not until he was taken for a special ride on Air Force One, if I recall correctly.
Thu May 22, 2014, 04:32 PM
May 2014

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
13. Was it really that upsetting? Hey,
Thu May 22, 2014, 02:18 PM
May 2014

"Liberal-who-exists-only-in-Third-Way-fantasies Manny"

...speaking of "fantasies"...

Why Former Spy Valerie Plame Thinks Hillary Clinton is A lot Like FDR
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024986569

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
47. Bringing It Back To Hillary
Thu May 22, 2014, 04:22 PM
May 2014

Hillary has the support of the Carlyle Group. Is that 1940 enough for ya?

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
27. Perhaps he's "Ha Ha Only Serious" Manny
Thu May 22, 2014, 02:50 PM
May 2014
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ha+ha+only+serious

Applied especially to parodies, absurdities, and ironic jokes that are both intended and perceived to contain a possibly disquieting amount of truth, or truths that are constructed on in-joke and self-parody. This lexicon contains many examples of ha-ha-only-serious in both form and content. Indeed, the entirety of hacker culture is often perceived as ha-ha-only-serious by hackers themselves; to take it either too lightly or too seriously marks a person as an outsider, a wannabee, or in larval stage. For further enlightenment on this subject, consult any Zen master.

Response to snooper2 (Reply #17)

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
86. what are you talking about?
Fri May 23, 2014, 12:59 AM
May 2014

I bring awesomeness to DU!

for example, have you seen the new Pentatonix video- Greatness!








(and we have people saying music today sucks, blah )

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
23. they really can't comprehend that liking someone because they'll push policies
Thu May 22, 2014, 02:38 PM
May 2014

that are good doesn't mean that we think that all the policies endorsed (or just praised in the most boilerplate fashion) by a candidate are good

WE're not the ones 100% behind the flavor of the month, WE're not the "purists" because we dare to have standards, WE're not the ones whose every thought revolves around the chosen candidate and who can't see anything else when we close our eyes ("we" meaning "anyone left of Francisco Franco&quot

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
52. Correct you are! No comprehension, or else deliberately (and transparently) pretending.
Thu May 22, 2014, 04:34 PM
May 2014

Talk about purists! bwah!
The use of don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good just swoooooshes over their heads, too.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
29. Marx-Lennon in 2016
Thu May 22, 2014, 03:00 PM
May 2014

Let's go for something really radical. I think we'd all support this ticket before we'd embrace Cruz-Rubio.
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TBF

(36,589 posts)
31. Honestly I think the third way would go for
Thu May 22, 2014, 03:11 PM
May 2014

Cruz-Rubio before they'd go for Marx-Lennon (or Lenin) ...

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
35. There was a joke here prior to the 2004 election
Thu May 22, 2014, 03:22 PM
May 2014

. . . that said the DLC would like a Bush-Lieberman national unity ticket.

My own version of that was that the DLC wanted the Democrats to nominate Bush. Since the DLC didn't seem to think Democrats could beat Republicans unless they sounded just like Republicans, why not just run the Republicans in lieu of Democrats?

First, the DLC rags on any one who says there's no difference between Democrats and Repubulicans.
Then they rag on any Democrat who tries not to sound like a Republican.



Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
53. Christie as Hillary's running mate?
Thu May 22, 2014, 05:22 PM
May 2014

Don't these guys have any respect for ethics and integrity in politicians, do they?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
59. They say that winning is more important then integrity. That's why they like Clinton.
Thu May 22, 2014, 06:08 PM
May 2014

They see her as a winner. If Christie would change parties, they would accept him in a minute. Their philosophy is "stay with the status quo. That's so much easier than standing up for freedom, liberty and equality."

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
60. Unfortunately, both John & Groucho are dead.
Thu May 22, 2014, 07:10 PM
May 2014

Other than that, it would be a fantastic ticket.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
70. Even dead, they couldn't be worse most politicians, heads of state or captains of industry nowadays
Thu May 22, 2014, 08:31 PM
May 2014

Consider that.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
91. And we could pretty well guarantee they could carry Chicago.
Fri May 23, 2014, 10:16 AM
May 2014

They'd get 90% of the dead vote, for sure.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
103. You mean Rahm doesn't have that consituancy all sewed up?
Fri May 23, 2014, 10:53 PM
May 2014

Mayor Emanuel isn't the sort of politician I would expect to clean up the government.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
38. Literary Devices: Here is a helpful website to help DUers who may need these explanations
Thu May 22, 2014, 03:42 PM
May 2014

perceive/comprehend what we purist elitist pinko commie librul leftist FDR type Democrats/Greens/Socialists are saying when we post funnies with literary devices in order to communicate an idea/make a point.

Literary Devices

Good luck!



scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
61. Thank you.
Thu May 22, 2014, 07:30 PM
May 2014

Amazing how Manny's OP has apparently whooshed over the heads of so many posters on this thread.

Autumn

(48,952 posts)
84. Manny always whooshes right over their heads. It's so damn funny.
Thu May 22, 2014, 10:48 PM
May 2014

I see those posts and I'm like WTF how can a person not get that. It's like stepping into bizarro world.

bobduca

(1,763 posts)
85. hard to say...
Thu May 22, 2014, 10:49 PM
May 2014

Some here seem to be good at feigning ignorance, or offense as the situation merits.

Veracious

(234 posts)
39. Nonsense.....
Thu May 22, 2014, 03:46 PM
May 2014

The Republicans will not hesitate to crush you and yours. Get on board work within the party to get the candidates you like, but stop with all this whinner bullshit.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
45. Others have tried, but Obama is the only one who has succeeded in getting any kind of
Thu May 22, 2014, 04:14 PM
May 2014

health bill at all. Think of it as Step 1. It's up to future presidents to get to Step 2 and 3 before
the USA will finally have universal coverage for all its people. The Repugs. are fighting against
this as though their lives depended on it.

And besides, half a loaf is better than no bread.

Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
62. Thank you. When I saw that thread yesterday, I was tempted to reply
Thu May 22, 2014, 07:36 PM
May 2014

with a simple "So?" But I didn't want to kick the ugly stupid thing.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
64. +1
Thu May 22, 2014, 07:44 PM
May 2014

conservative trolls remind me of the Wizard of Oz, except they each need a heart, a brain and courage.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
67. they're even trying to hide behind Grayson and Warren--like they'd ever support her
Thu May 22, 2014, 08:16 PM
May 2014

Jane Harman's too lefty for what they want: but they're such terrifying voids that they'll kill for whoever gets the nomination

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
68. Some people have very odd notions of how best to persuade someone to support their candidate.
Thu May 22, 2014, 08:19 PM
May 2014

Either they don't realize they're further alienating people who don't want to vote for Hillary in the first place, or they don't care, or they do care and are trying to hurt Hillary.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
71. "Don't feed the trolls" is good advice.
Thu May 22, 2014, 08:48 PM
May 2014

Threads like that would take up less shelf space if DU'ers just stopped engaging them.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
69. Makes sense she would. After all, she was once a Republican.
Thu May 22, 2014, 08:23 PM
May 2014

I heard she has boxes in her garage too.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
89. and the results are in
Fri May 23, 2014, 07:42 AM
May 2014

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IronLionZion

(51,209 posts)
98. Draft Manny for 2016
Fri May 23, 2014, 01:52 PM
May 2014

accept nothing less!

In the meantime get your torches and pitchforks ready to throw each and every Dem under the bus until the party is purged pure.....

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