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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Thu May 22, 2014, 03:12 PM May 2014

BOOM!!- Meghan McCain: 選 HATE KARL ROVE'




"Hate" Meghan??.......Hate is such a strong term.............





Meghan McCain was sharply critical of Karl Rove during an interview with Larry King, going so far as to say she hates him and that he needs to apologize to her family. The daughter of the 2008 Republican presidential nominee showed no love for the political commentator and said he is no longer a relevant political figure, according to a transcript of the interview from Ora.TV’s “PoliticKING with Larry King” that will air on Thursday night.


“I hate Karl Rove and I think he still needs to apologize to my family, which he has not done, for things that happened in 2000,” McCain said. “I think there was an era where Karl Rove was relevant and I don’t know why people still give him attention.”




Tensions between the McCains and Rove have been mounting since Sen. John McCain’s (R-Ariz.) 2000 campaign in South Carolina. Rumors began to circulate that McCain had an illegitimate black child during his 2000 race, incorrectly labeling the senator’s adopted child from Bangladesh. Rove later denied that he had started the rumor, but that did not stop McCain from calling Rove a “pathetic excuse for a human being” in regards to the incident in her 2012 book “America, You Sexy Bitch: A Love Letter to Freedom.”



In regards to his latest media attention, where Rove made comments about Hillary Clinton’s health, McCain found the comments to be a “disgusting” sign of what is to come. “I think what we saw with Karl Rove talking about her health, though, is sort of just the beginning,” McCain said. “Just the tip of the iceberg of what’s going to happen with the attacks on her.”





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http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/meghan-mccain-karl-rove-hate-john-mccain-larry-king-106999.html?hp=l4
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BOOM!!- Meghan McCain: 選 HATE KARL ROVE' (Original Post) Segami May 2014 OP
When is your Dad going to apologize for Palin, Meghan? tridim May 2014 #1
Well, on the one hand, he unleashed her on an unsuspecting America... MADem May 2014 #26
Rove also supposedly spread rumors that McCain went crazy as a POW in Vietnam deutsey May 2014 #2
Welcome to the party, Meghan. What took you so long? nt Rhymes With Orange May 2014 #3
Well there was that black child rumor floated in S. Carolina in 2000. yellowcanine May 2014 #4
"He's America's Joseph Goebbels ..." napkinz May 2014 #5
Madsen is not a reliable source... DonViejo May 2014 #10
They Say Rove is Gay billhicks76 May 2014 #12
Who are "they" you write of?... DonViejo May 2014 #13
Madsen??? billhicks76 May 2014 #14
Rove's Dad was gay... DonViejo May 2014 #16
Really? billhicks76 May 2014 #24
Huh? DonViejo May 2014 #33
Whoa billhicks76 May 2014 #34
you dispute the history of dirty tactics as detailed in the article? napkinz May 2014 #27
Most of that seems fairly likely to me. Laelth May 2014 #32
But to be fair, she didn't start the rumor that Karl Rove is a child molester Blue Owl May 2014 #6
Ya' know, I can't remember who said that Karl Rove is a child molester tosh May 2014 #8
I heard he takes trips to the Dominican Republic with Rush. A Simple Game May 2014 #19
"Hey, Rover Boy, get your lying Republican ass off America's lawn." - Meg McC AceAcme May 2014 #7
Clever girl. Iggo May 2014 #9
And Larry King is such a good place for making announcements?! oldandhappy May 2014 #11
At least Lee Atwater had the good sense and self-respect to drop dead of a brain tumor. Aristus May 2014 #15
Great, an idiot hates an evil man...go back to your hovel, Meghan...nt joeybee12 May 2014 #17
Coming from a family who gave us Sarah Palin! Segami May 2014 #20
I know...she can hate Rove all she wants, but she's clueless joeybee12 May 2014 #21
she is the only republican I know of who is critical of KKKarl. good for her. mulsh May 2014 #18
的 think there was an era where Karl Rove was relevant ...." pangaia May 2014 #22
More evidence that the GOP is falling apart. SmittynMo May 2014 #23
which is why her father iamthebandfanman May 2014 #25
Rove says it's too early to tell of she hates him (nt) UrbScotty May 2014 #28
I have a fantasy that includes Karl Rove, wanna hear it? randys1 May 2014 #29
I have the same fantasy, only Dick (5 deferment) Cheney gets a decaf on his willy Submariner May 2014 #30
We actually need a stronger word than "hate" for karl rove, boner, etc.. lol when I first saw Cha May 2014 #31

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. Well, on the one hand, he unleashed her on an unsuspecting America...
Thu May 22, 2014, 06:08 PM
May 2014

But on the other hand, the selection of that Half-Baked Barbie ensured that he would LOSE, and LOSE BADLY. Even he realized very quickly that she was a loose cannon who could not take direction, she had no message discipline, and she was DUMB as a box of snowballs.

So maybe we should thank McCain. His error kept him--and the Caribou Cannon--out of the White House.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
2. Rove also supposedly spread rumors that McCain went crazy as a POW in Vietnam
Thu May 22, 2014, 03:22 PM
May 2014

He is a heartless, vicious guttersnipe and is handsomely rewarded by the likes of the Bush family for being so.

yellowcanine

(36,788 posts)
4. Well there was that black child rumor floated in S. Carolina in 2000.
Thu May 22, 2014, 03:30 PM
May 2014

Revenge served cold......Kick him while he is down, Meghan.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
5. "He's America's Joseph Goebbels ..."
Thu May 22, 2014, 03:32 PM
May 2014




Exposing Karl Rove

By Wayne Madsen
November 2002

[font size="3"]He's America's Joseph Goebbels. As a 21-year old Young Republican in Texas, Karl Rove not only pimped for Richard Nixon's chief political dirty tricks strategist Donald Segretti but soon caught the eye of the incoming Republican National Committee Chairman, George H. W. Bush. Rove's dirty tricks on behalf of Nixon's 1972 campaign catapulted Rove onto the national stage. From his Eagle's Nest in the West Wing of the White House, Rove now directs a formidable political dirty tricks operation and disinformation mill.[/font]

Since his formative political years when he tried to paint World War II B-24 pilot and hero George McGovern as a left-wing peacenik through his mid-level career as a planter of disinformation in the media on behalf of Texas and national GOP candidates to his current role as Dubya's "Svengali," Rove has practiced the same style of slash and burn politics as did his Nixonian mentor Segretti. Many of us remember the Lincolnesque Senator Ed Muskie breaking down in tears during the 1972 campaign over Segretti-planted false stories in a New Hampshire newspaper that accused Mrs. Muskie of being a heavy smoker, drinker, and cusser and accused Muskie of uttering a slur in describing New Hampshire's French Canadian population. Rove's hero also forged letters on fake Muskie campaign letterhead, disrupted rallies and fundraising dinners, and spread false stories about the sex lives of candidates. Segretti's brush also smeared George McGovern, George Wallace, Shirley Chisholm, and McGovern's first vice presidential choice, Senator Tom Eagleton. Segretti of course did not go on to a high-level White House job -- he was sentenced to six months in federal prison for distributing illegal campaign material.

In many respects, however, the apprentice Rove has far exceeded the chicanery and evil-mindedness of his mentor Segretti. Rove is a tech-savvy puppet master for Bush. Take, for example, last June's discovery of a "lost" CD-ROM in Lafayette Park across from the White House. Contained on the CD was a PowerPoint presentation given by White House political director Ken Mehlman to Rove on the strategy for next Tuesday's off-year election. The slide show showed First Brother Jeb Bush being vulnerable in Florida. Jeb Bush later joked that the disc was part of a plot cooked up by him and his brother to make it appear that he was vulnerable in order to rally an otherwise complacent GOP base in the Sunshine State. Or was it a joke? Jeb Bush and his political minions like Katherine Harris have shown us that if anyone thinks what the GOP has done in Florida is funny they have an incredibly sick sense of humor.

Rove's own tendency to be sick-minded originates with his mentor Segretti. The 2000 GOP primary was a chance for Rove to hone his skills in dirty tricks. His target then was Senator John McCain who appeared to be within striking distance of Dubya in South Carolina after the then-GOP maverick's surprise upset victory in New Hampshire. Rove's operation proceeded to target McCain with false stories: McCain was a stoolie for his captors in the Hanoi Hilton (this from a lunatic self-promoting Vietnam "veteran&quot ; McCain fathered a black daughter out of wedlock (a despicable reference to McCain's adopted Bangladeshi daughter); Cindy McCain's drug "abuse"; and even McCain's "homosexuality." In the spirit of Segretti, Rove engineered a victory for Dubya but at the cost of trashing an honorable man and his family. Muskie, McGovern, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Hart, Tsongas, Clinton, Biden, Dole, Perot, and others had all seen the Segretti/Rove slash and burn tactics before.

And Rove's penchant for fascistic demagoguery and outright lying continues to this very day. After Paul Wellstone's sons asked that Vice President Dick Cheney not attend the Minneapolis memorial service for their father, mother, and sister, the White House explained that the real reason wasn't the surviving Wellstone family's abhorrence for Cheney but the fact the family didn't want Cheney's Secret Service protection to interfere with public access to the service. Of course, the Rove and Ari Fleischer disinformation machine forgot to take into account that two attendees, Bill and Hillary Clinton, had their own Secret Service details. But such is the case with a White House that takes its lessons from Goebbels and the editorial staff of the old Soviet News Agency Tass.

Rove's dirty fingerprints could also be seen in the Iowa Senate race between Tom Harkin and GOP candidate Greg Ganske. ...

read more: http://rense.com/general31/EXPs.htm and http://counterpunch.org/madsen1101.html





DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
10. Madsen is not a reliable source...
Thu May 22, 2014, 04:02 PM
May 2014
Madsen has reported that Obama is gay.The Nation writing on that conspiracy theory reported that Wayne Madsen "is the source on Obama’s visits to the bath house and who revealed how Obama used basketball pickup games to pick up men. Obama, Madsen says, had homosexual trysts with Representative Artur Davis, Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick and Senate majority leader Bill Frist!"[39][40]

In 2003 he claimed that he had uncovered information in a classified congressional report that he said contained information linking the September 11 attacks to the government of Saudi Arabia and the Bush administration through financial transactions with the hijackers. The Saudi Foreign Minister demanded the report be declassified so it could respond, however, the Bush administration refused, claiming that to do so would compromise intelligence sources and methods.[41]

In a 2010 interview for Veterans Today, when asked what he thought about claims by former Italian President Francesco Cossiga, Hamid Gul, the former head of Pakistan’s Intelligence Service and several investigative journalists that Israel was behind 9/11, Madsen stated that he believed the 9/11 attacks were "an operation carried out by Mossad, Saudi intelligence,...and elements of the CIA." [42]

Madsen has asserted in The Palestine Telegraph that hundreds of Iraqi scientists who had been assassinated or died in accidents after the invasion in 2003 were actually murdered by Mossad hit teams operating in Iraq.[43]

In 2010, Madsen reported in the Pakistan Daily that unnamed sources suggested that the company formerly known as Blackwater, had been conducting false-flag operations in Pakistan that were blamed on the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan.[44]

He has asserted that members of AIPAC and Israel's Mossad dominate CNN's management and urges his readers to boycott CNN and its advertisers until they are fired. He has begun a project to oppose Israel as a threat to world peace.[45] Madsen has stated in an interview that "the Israeli lobby owns the Congress, media, Hollywood, Wall Street, both political parties and the White House".[46][42]

On April 25, 2009, Madsen said that unidentified journalists from Mexico and Indonesia had spoken to some unidentified UN World Health Organization officials and scientists believed the 2009 new H1N1 strain of swine flu virus appeared to be the product of U.S. military sponsored gene splicing, as opposed to natural processes.[47][48] While it can not be ruled out that the virus was created in a research laboratory or vaccine factory, the most plausible explanation is that the virus is the result of modern farming techniques. New Scientist magazine cited the example of a H1N2 influenza pandemic in the 1990s that was a reassortment (mix) of swine, human and avian strains.[49]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Madsen


Neither is Rense.
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
12. They Say Rove is Gay
Thu May 22, 2014, 04:35 PM
May 2014

Being closeted anything in politics is popular because if you have a secret that you can be manipulated. The bigger the secret the better. There are a lot of high ranking republicans who are gay but don't feel comfortable with being open about it. They tow the line because of it. I can't wait for gay marriage to become the norm in every state because it will be one less thing the power brokers can leverage over politicians, judges and journalists to get their way.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
13. Who are "they" you write of?...
Thu May 22, 2014, 04:40 PM
May 2014

Madsen is not a reliable source under any circumstances.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
14. Madsen???
Thu May 22, 2014, 04:43 PM
May 2014

No. The gay community. Was it Out magazine? I don't recall. It was around the time Ken Mehlman(sp?) came out.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
16. Rove's Dad was gay...
Thu May 22, 2014, 04:50 PM
May 2014
It's not exactly startling to see that Karl Rove has denied he was aware his own father was gay, even as he guided the GOP into anti-gay wedge politics in the last decade (the Christianists, he coolly calculated, had potentially way more votes for the GOP than gays and their families). But it is important to note that it is untrue that he had no idea his dad was gay or that he was unaware it was the reason for his parents' divorce. From James Moore, the author of The Architect, a biography of Rove:

When I went to Palm Springs in 2005 prior to the publication of The Architect, one of Louis Rove's neighbors literally laughed when I told him Karl claimed he didn't know what happened to his parents' marriage.

"He [Karl] was obviously hurt by the divorce. It's just absurd when he says, 'I had no idea what the problems were with my parents and their marriage.' He knew damned good and well what was going on. His father had decided to come out of the closet."

In fact, according to Louis Rove's best friend Joe Koons, Rove not only knew his father's sexual orientation but also was comfortable with it and had accepted his father's honesty.

http://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2010/03/karl-rove-and-his-gay-dad/189234/


Google search pulls up a couple articles claiming Rove is at least bi-sexual:

http://www.choice101.com/666-carl-rove.html

http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2012/06/karl-roves-bisexual-affair-might-have.html

I don't buy it; that his Dad was gay, yes. That Karl is gay or bi? No.
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
24. Really?
Thu May 22, 2014, 06:00 PM
May 2014

Last edited Thu May 22, 2014, 08:48 PM - Edit history (1)

There are no women in his life. Not one. Mehlman was gay also but he came out after he was done representing the republican party. Remember Jeff Gannon who had more visits to the White House in 2001-2005 than anyone on earth? Maybe Karl was calling him. Who knows

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
33. Huh?
Thu May 22, 2014, 07:58 PM
May 2014

No women in Rove's life? Are you saying that? If so, you are mistaken:

Love, etc.: Karl Rove weds Karen Johnson
By The Reliable Source

Married: Karl Rove and Karen Johnson, in a small, under-the-radar wedding in Austin late last month. The nuptials of the Republican mega-strategist, 61, and the lobbyist, who is in her mid-40s, were first noted in passing in a Politico story about his dealings with casino billionaire and campaign donor Steve Wynn, who apparently flew the newlyweds to Naples on his jet. The groom would give us no other details on the wedding.

Rove and Johnson have been quietly dating for a couple of years, according to Texas pals. It’s the third marriage for Rove, who was divorced in 2009 from Darby Rove, with whom he has a son.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/post/love-etc-karl-rove-weds-karen-johnson/2012/07/15/gJQAld2XnW_blog.html


I knew Mehlman was gay when he was out campaigning against his community by approving the homophobic campaign of '04. There's nothing wrong with my gaydar.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
32. Most of that seems fairly likely to me.
Thu May 22, 2014, 07:13 PM
May 2014

The only argument for which I see no evidence in that list is the entry about President Obama. Otherwise, I wouldn't be surprised if Madsen is spot-on.



-Laelth

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
19. I heard he takes trips to the Dominican Republic with Rush.
Thu May 22, 2014, 04:57 PM
May 2014

Probably true, it's on the internet and all.

Aristus

(72,178 posts)
15. At least Lee Atwater had the good sense and self-respect to drop dead of a brain tumor.
Thu May 22, 2014, 04:45 PM
May 2014

When do we get rid of KKKarl Rove?

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
21. I know...she can hate Rove all she wants, but she's clueless
Thu May 22, 2014, 05:00 PM
May 2014

about how awful her own father is...she really needs to go away.

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
18. she is the only republican I know of who is critical of KKKarl. good for her.
Thu May 22, 2014, 04:56 PM
May 2014

Good for her for speaking her mind.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
22. 的 think there was an era where Karl Rove was relevant ...."
Thu May 22, 2014, 05:51 PM
May 2014

What a simple-minded idiot.

A little late to the party, there, sweetie...

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
23. More evidence that the GOP is falling apart.
Thu May 22, 2014, 05:58 PM
May 2014

Internal fighting amongst republicans. You gotta love it.

Ya know, you're all f*cking crazy.

(Don Johnson - Tin Cup)

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
25. which is why her father
Thu May 22, 2014, 06:04 PM
May 2014

will go down in history as one of the biggest sellouts in history...

I didn't agree with a lot of what McCain said back in 2000...
but he was clearly the more rational between the two (him and bush)...
the way KKKarl and the bush campaign went after McCain on a personal level was truly a sick thing to behold...

which makes ya hafta ask... why did he become such an ass kisser after his loss?
had it been me, and my family, I would have disliked the man until I dropped dead for the things he did.. but that just me. lol

randys1

(16,286 posts)
29. I have a fantasy that includes Karl Rove, wanna hear it?
Thu May 22, 2014, 06:25 PM
May 2014
I am walking thru an airport terminal, I just bought a huge, steaming hot cup of Starbuck's coffee, I turn the corner and there, in all his ugly glory, is Karl Rove, so I accidentally trip and throw the steaming hot coffee on him, I wont hit him in the face because that would get him sympathy, but I make sure most of it goes directly on his crotch.

Submariner

(13,365 posts)
30. I have the same fantasy, only Dick (5 deferment) Cheney gets a decaf on his willy
Thu May 22, 2014, 06:52 PM
May 2014

except I'm a Dunkin' Donuts coffee spiller myself.

Cha

(319,058 posts)
31. We actually need a stronger word than "hate" for karl rove, boner, etc.. lol when I first saw
Thu May 22, 2014, 06:55 PM
May 2014

your title I just read "McCain".. I thought.. oh, that's juicy! lol

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