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The job of the newspaper (in re: Greenwald and Snowden and the sanctity of secrets) (Original Post) WilliamPitt May 2014 OP
those agreeing with kinsleys assertions are knaves. KG May 2014 #1
Even MSNBC billhicks76 May 2014 #5
"Mewling authoritarian toadies" has a nicer ring to it. [n/t] Maedhros May 2014 #6
Oh Will... Now Ya Gone And Done It... WillyT May 2014 #2
Bart Gellman talks about it, brilliantly, here... Luminous Animal May 2014 #3
Michael Kinsley begs to differ. m-lekktor May 2014 #4
I didn't feel comforted when Karl Rove wasn't indicted afterall. Whisp May 2014 #7
Recommend! KoKo May 2014 #8
When those that own Washington the DC also own the media, you're going to get rhett o rick May 2014 #9
Every time I hear the media claim "access" is what matters I think "cooperate". Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #10
. WilliamPitt May 2014 #11
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
5. Even MSNBC
Reply to KG (Reply #1)
Thu May 22, 2014, 09:56 PM
May 2014

...have become stenographers and not journalists at this point when it comes to national security issues.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
2. Oh Will... Now Ya Gone And Done It...
Thu May 22, 2014, 09:13 PM
May 2014
Inherit The Wind - Spencer Tracy Speech



Inherit the wind: what is holy?







& REC !!!

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
3. Bart Gellman talks about it, brilliantly, here...
Thu May 22, 2014, 09:17 PM
May 2014
Publishing Secrets

There is nothing anomalous here. I’m a projects reporter, and now my project is the weapons hunt. Nearly everything I want to know, and much of what I write, is classified. One day my adopted survey team seized a suspicious document, handwritten in Arabic and illustrated with sketches of laboratory glass. The document turned out to be a high school science exercise. The survey team’s report was classified. The school-book exercise was appended to that report—which means that some Iraqi teenager’s description of Boyle’s Law is a classified U.S. government secret. A qualified authority made a binding judgment that disclosure of this text would do “serious damage to national security.” So don’t ask me about the relationship between the pressure and volume of a gas held at constant temperature. I’d tell you, but I’d have to kill you.

The same survey team found a distillery where a biological warfare factory was supposed to be—that’s classified—and a swimming pool U.S. intelligence called a chemical bunker. Classified. Looting, as you’ve read, has been an enormous problem for the weapons hunters. When I was there, Central Command had forces available to guard 153 of the 372 buildings it considered important. That’s classified, too.

All these are secrets, and I put them in The Washington Post. What are we to make of that? What the Defense Department made of it was clear enough. Today the weapons hunting team, the Iraq Survey Group, receives no visitors. It will not disclose the number of its personnel, the military and intelligence units involved, or any of the evidence it is collecting. My question: Was the Pentagon right? Was I wrong to publish things the government tried to withhold? You’re waiting for me to cite the First Amendment. You can stop waiting. Today, at least, I will look elsewhere. …

I do not need you to believe that governments measure wrongly the risks of disclosure, or that publication of secrets does no harm, or that any particular story is essential to public debate. What I want to consider is how to navigate disputes over national security secrecy and who gets to hold the rudder. And my answer, or part of it, is that government is incompetent to do so on its own. By incompetent, I do not mean unskilled. I mean that government has no legitimate claim to sole control of secrecy decisions, even on matters of common defense. The lawful application of a classified stamp is the beginning, not the end, of my inquiry.


http://www.nieman.harvard.edu/reportsitem.aspx?id=100824
 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
7. I didn't feel comforted when Karl Rove wasn't indicted afterall.
Thu May 22, 2014, 10:17 PM
May 2014

Pain was inflicted on the believers.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
9. When those that own Washington the DC also own the media, you're going to get
Thu May 22, 2014, 11:10 PM
May 2014

propaganda. And the loyalists among us wallow in the media lies because the lies dont disturb their denial bubble. Journalists that dare to confront our exalted authoritarian leaders like Greenwald are demonized.

Say it with me, "Long live the NSA/CIA/FBI cabal"

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