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About 1 a.m. this morning, police responded to a report of gunfire in the 5400 block of West Haddon Avenue in the South Austin neighborhood, police said. Officers found a 25-year-old man on the sidewalk with multiple gunshot wounds to the body, Chicago Police Department News Affairs Officer Michael Sullivan said.
The man, later identified as Lance Stanton, was taken to John H. Stroger, Jr. Hospital of Cook County. Stanton, who lived in the block where he was shot, was pronounced dead at 1:36 a.m., according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.
In a separate fatal shooting, a 46-year-old man was killed about 8:05 p.m. in the West Side's East Garfield Park neighborhood.
The man, later identified as Aaron Feazell, was shot multiple times in the 3300 block of West Maypole Avenue, authorities said. Feazell, of the 1400 block of S. 10th Avenue in Maywood, was pronounced dead on the scene at 8:25 p.m., according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-chicago-shootings-2-shot-on-west-side-20140525,0,1911694.story
Sadly there won't be any memorials, debates, discussions or nationwide media attention over these shootings because it happened in a poor black neighborhood and as usual the shooter or shooters will always get away because the police never bothers to look.
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Niceguy1
(2,467 posts)Refers to a single incident, not several combined
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Is that enough dead people for us to comment on? I certainly hope so.
Niceguy1
(2,467 posts)Need to misrepresent to starrt a discussion. Most of the shootings are single victim incidents, located in the same city.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)if you don't get it, then this thread will be fine without your input.
Niceguy1
(2,467 posts)Dont matter.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)justify the paranoid collections of arsenals by people in this nation.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)and this will stop. In Chicago a lot of families protect the known shooters, kind of hard for the police to do the work if people resist cooperating with them.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)were Chicago and it was about the racial aspect
Nice deflection to something completely unrelated.
the one you refer to that I will not use the name is just plain old murderer. Same as the asshole that did this
http://news.yahoo.com/mass-school-bombing-1927-puts-sandy-hook-context-185608674.html
or the asshole that did this
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)THIS.
not MOST, you said THIS will stop.
that was bullshit and you're running away from it means that you know it is.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Have a great night since you are so entrenched nothing I post will satisfy you.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)it is nonsense and it's bad enough you posted nonsense, but worse that you posted nonsense that you actually know is just that.
YOU RAN FROM IT, because you know it's BS.
you said something unequivocal, yet completely wrong, then you softened it to try to sound like you were right.
you were wrong. and dishonest too.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Gotta keep an eye on those 'urban' types.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)that's what your screen name honors. it is what it is intended to honor.
we know what you think.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)and your gun apologetics.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)The "4 or more, and your in!" which leaves us with -- you guessed it -- a generally white boy cull-out? The MMs (what, 63 over 3 decades?) pale in numbers when compared to the nightly drone of killing in this country, often in the same places, over and over. Damn, white folks gotta have all the attention, too!
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Now let's see what happens.
Prohibition ended and so did the reign of Capone and the rest.
(Let's Not nitpick Babyface)
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)when he was sentenced in 1931 to 11 years imprisonment for tax evasion.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)and yet you purposely ignore guns.
unreliable opinion, unreliable poster.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)given the number of guns and people.
You would make a much larger impact on gun deaths where the happen most. Drugs and gangs.
I guess you could care less about them I see.
Since I am against gun bans, anything I say will not be enough to please you.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Maybe it's another aspect of "white privilege" that whiny-ass killer college kids hog all the attention in DU. I guess it's so much safer to discuss, here.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)(Insert more NRA talking points)
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)Of course, I wouldn't know an "NRA talking point" if I saw one, as I've never had anything to do with the organization. Maybe the poster should back up his assertions with some examples, huh?
Peace,
Ghost
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)but nice try...
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)fried eggs
(910 posts)He's on vacation for the holiday, but his opening on Friday (before Rodgers) was:
http://nocera.blogs.nytimes.com/category/gun-report/?module=BlogCategory&version=Blog%20Post&action=Click&contentCollection=Opinion&pgtype=Blogs®ion=Header
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)small step in the right direction. I don't expect we have any repukes to thank for it, but I'll be happy to see exceptions to the rule.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Talk about a warning sign.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Really
Accountable
billh58
(6,635 posts)supporters and apologists.
Liberal Jesus Freak
(1,451 posts)Why argue about the reasons...they're all different and all the same. Tragic and, apparently, unavoidable
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
hack89
(39,171 posts)There were many fewer gun deaths this year than there were 20 years ago. And if we had been able to do something about our stubbornly constant sucide rate there would have been even fewer.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
hack89
(39,171 posts)Then what exactly is the problem?
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
hack89
(39,171 posts)That requires a crackdown on illegal gun trafficking. Most street violence involves illegal guns wielded by criminals. A major expansion of the ATF is needed.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)And that just happened for the first time in decades.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Do you have a precise number of how many gun deaths are acceptable? And what's the number of gun deaths that indicate a sick society, versus one in which people get blown away all the fucking time and yet everything is hunky dory? Because clearly, in your mind, there is an acceptable number of innocent lives lost so that people can continue playing with their lethal toys.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Just like the past 20 some odd years. I hope that every year continues to be safer than the year before.
NickB79
(19,243 posts)"Firearm-related homicides dropped from 18,253 homicides in 1993 to 11,101 in 2011," according to a report by the federal , "and nonfatal firearm crimes dropped from 1.5 million victimizations in 1993 to 467,300 in 2011.
And in the same timeframe, the US population grew by roughly 30 million, and the number of guns in circulation roughly DOUBLED, from 150 million to almost 300 million.
Crunchy Frog
(26,587 posts)for improving trauma surgery.
hack89
(39,171 posts)We are also talking about a significant two decade decline in all categories of violent crime, not just gun violence. America is a significantly safer place than it was 20 years ago.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Sick societies don't cut their murder rates in half..."
Interesting yet unsupported allegation.
Do sick societies posses the greatest number of civilian firearm deaths on the planet, the greatest absolute number of firearms on the planet, export the greatest amount of firearms on the planet, and the greatest number of firearms as a percentage on the planet?
hack89
(39,171 posts)from my perspective we are not a sick society. Guns are one of many factors - I am not sure if it is an important one, especially if those guns are killing fewer people every year. An increasing death toll due to increasing violence would be a sign of a sick society - take Venezuela or most South American countries as examples (one third of the world's murders take place in South and Central America). When a society has a two decade stretch of decline in every measurable aspect of criminal violence then if it is sick than it has also found the means to heal itself.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)or all of your other links, combined
k/r
GoCubsGo
(32,083 posts)Too lazy to find a link...
valerief
(53,235 posts)Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)Shhh, will ya.
madville
(7,410 posts)Here in the Jacksonville, FL area, black-on-black shootings and violence are an everyday occurrence. This was just recently:
"In an ongoing outburst of violence, about 30 gunshots erupted along West Sixth Street off Myrtle Avenue about 2 p.m. Tuesday. The gunfire struck a man and a woman who were driving down the street, police said.
In the last seven days, there have been at least 15 people shot in Jacksonville in 11 shootings, according to Times-Union records. At least three people died. A witness description of Tuesdays shooting indicated it was a possible ambush."
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2014-04-29/story/1-dead-1-wounded-30-shots-fired-another-jacksonville-shooting
If this was in a white neighborhood it would be national news with all out law enforcement attention. Black neighborhood, one little local article and it will happen again within a few days with little more than shrug and brief mention on the evening news.