re Discussionist - it needs more rational people to show how adults address issues.

[Bill USA]

I joined, I went, I commented.

.... And yes, there are the typical Conservative Drools, but I would like to appeal to DUers to get on the site and start posting some sensible posts. If you don't want to comment on an ignoramous's post, then don't. But at least put up some sensible posts - just like what you would put up here - to show how grown-ups carry on a real discussion. By posting sensible comments and not responding directly (you can always put up a post that contradicts the idiot post you don't want to comment directly on) you are showing you don't think it is worth commenting on.

For those who are alright with it, you can comment on the idiot threads to show they are regurgitating Bullshit (provide excerpts from valid analyses by experts and show those who are open to it, how a real discussion of an issue is done) but it's not really necessary. It would be nice to see some more sensible posts/comments put up there. Put the same comments there as you would here. It may mean a few people might see something they would not ordinarily see.

Anyway, that's my plea.

[Lil Missy]

1. No. n/t

[onecent]

2. what is discussionist? I don't have

a clue, but I have seen several talking about it.
thanks.

[dipsydoodle]

7. Google "waste of space" to find.

.

[TeeYiYi]

10. Look in the dictionary under "clusterfuck." ..nt

TYY

[Historic NY]

25. Its a cluster---- invented by DU founders...

Lord knows why except it troll heaven.

[defacto7]

33. www.discussionist.com

[Bill USA]

37. it is a new discussion site created by the three creators of DU with the intent of bringing in

conservatives and other lost souls into the conversation. I guess the idea is to promote more interchange between the 'camps'. but I really should not speak for them - that's just my idea of what the purpose of the site is. Here is the link: http://www.discussionist.com/

[dipsydoodle]

3. Nope.

.

[blm]

4. And...it is pretty funny to watch them go silent when confronted with the fact that their sources

for information about this country originated in pro-fascist media empires developed over the last 3 decades by a Korean cult leader and an Australian extortionist.

Stupid people duped into hating this nation's citizen government in order to further the pro-fascist agenda of NWO Republicans who want to replace our democratic republic with corporate empires.

[Bill USA]

38. very nicely and succinctly put. my compliments.

[upaloopa]

5. I have no time to spend with wing nuts

Before DU there was a site by the Democratic something or other. I know some long time DUers were there also.
It was a hell hole of freepers doing the same kind of "debating" that gunners do here. Just a endless list of their talking points that they expected you to defend agsinst. A waste of time IMHO

[Capt. Obvious]

6. You're DUing wrong

DU is for trashing Skinner's other site, not trying to help it grow.

[WinkyDink]

17. And we are obligated "to help it grow" because...?

[Capt. Obvious]

21. Who's side are you on!

We need to kill that site by talking about it here.

[lumberjack_jeff]

29. ... and provide backlinks! Only by linking to the cesspool® and visiting the advertiser links...

... can the forces of good thrust a wooden stake into its malevolent heart.

[TeeYiYi]

8. Um,...no. ..nt

TYY

[winter is coming]

9. And you think GD has rational people to spare? n/t

[1000words]

11. ...

[demmiblue]

12. No thank you. n/t

[mindwalker_i]

13. Problem is, there are a lot of people who don't want to confront their own stereotypes

It happens on both sides, but here, people generally aren't called on it because other people generally agree. It happens to me too, but I would rather know what things I "know are true" are actually strongly tied to my own ideology.

i've called out a couple of other people as well. One person asked whether I had learned that the Civil War was about slavery on DU. I replied that he was implying that the idea of the Civil War being about slavery was a vast liberal conspiracy, which, is fucking ridiculous. And he shut up.

DU can be a "safe haven," which is pretty cool for the most part. It does, however, make it easy to believe things without questioning them.

[WinkyDink]

19. Blah, blah, blah.

[mindwalker_i]

23. I stand corrected

or something.

[lumberjack_jeff]

30. Heh. +1 n/t

[sufrommich]

24. Why would you assume that posters at DU only

post here? It's not like the only forums on the internet are here or Discussionist.

[penultimate]

44. Blasphemy!!!! ALL FORUMS OTHER THAN DU AND DISCUSSIONIST ARE FALSE FORUMS!!!!

In my world, they are the only classic style forums I find interesting to visit.

[spanone]

14. nope.

[MohRokTah]

15. Huuuuuuuuum????

NAH!!

[WinkyDink]

16. I'll pass, thanks. Who needs the stupidity?

[Starry Messenger]

18. Reactionaries don't absorb new information.

That's why they are right-wing. Sensible discussions get ripped to shreds here by people claiming to be Dems, why would anyone want the sheer toxic abuse of conservative shit-heads?

[uppityperson]

20. I came to DU to work with like minded people and was/am tired of arguing with the jerks who

have no desire to consider any side but their own. If they were civil, they could be here posting. If they were not civil, they could be reading here anyway.

Good luck with engaging them on other forums though.

[scarletwoman]

22. Nuh uh. I'm on DU because there's at least a chance of having an intelligent debate.

And even that has gotten slimmer through the years.

I have zero interest in engaging with unregenerate bozos.

DU has been my home and my refuge for 13 years. If I have to fight bozos, I'll fight them here. I'm not going to seek them out elsewhere.

[hlthe2b]

26. Frankly, the conservatives are going to take it over if Duers & other moderates/liberals/progressive

don't.

That said, my concern is that the rudeness that is pervasive over there is starting to impact DU as well. I don't know if it is more trolling or if our own membership is being influenced somehow by the very combative atmosphere that conservatives tend to bring to --EVERYTHING. But, damn, it is not necessary to automatically accuse those on DU who disagree with you of "making things up" or "lying". Maybe they are mistaken, but geebus! Can we at least START with some benefit-of-the doubt? It seems like even some of our long term members have started doing this. Ugly.

[Lint Head]

27. I've posted a thing or two. Discussionist is kinda like the Sun or a large planet.

The gravitational pull keeps asteroids from hitting DU and doing a lot of damage.

[Bill USA]

40. interesting 'take' on it.

[gollygee]

28. The problem is that rational people

might be too rational to get involved in that.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

31. So does the Yahoo and YouTube comments sections

Good luck with that too.

[GentryDixon]

32. I joined on the first day, and have served on a few

juries. The posting from sonofreagon made my decision to be unwilling to serve on any more juries. It is like pissing against the wind to educate these paid shills. I will stick with DU, and let the more articulate DUers try to re-educate those sorry souls.

[Gothmog]

34. The discussionist board can be fun

The conservatives are really weak.

[Prophet 451]

35. I'm sorry, I can't

The conservatives are either too dumb to be educated or I run into the problem of how to stop someone from lying when you're not allowed to hit them.

I already have high blood pressure, a short fuse and severe mental illness.

[Bill USA]

39. LOL! Your last line is a 'killer'!

[boston bean]

36. There are enough current and past Duers over there

spewing misogynistic, sexist crap with the best of the right wing misogynists.

No thanks.

[hlthe2b]

41. Indeed there are... n/t

[Brigid]

42. No thanks.

I have my blood pressure to think about.

[Inkfreak]

43. Ain't ya heard? You're not cool if ya don't bash Skinners new site. (nt)

[WinkyDink]

45. N/m.