More gun madness - Florida 6 yr old kills his grandpa with AK 47....

[yellowcanine]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/29/florida-6-year-old-kills-grandfather-with-ak-47-left-unattended-by-boys-uncle-at-family-picnic/

Good thing Florida has that Stand Your Ground law.

[redwitch]

1. No one is to blame? Yeah, right.

So you're doing coke, drinking beer and you bring your loaded AK47 out to the picnic table and don't notice there is a 6 year old there? Clear to me who is to blame and it isn't the 6 year old.

[muriel_volestrangler]

20. The sleezeball puts himself in the same category as his dead father

Martinez called the shooting an accident, saying no one was to blame.

“The family is not trying to point the finger at anybody,” he said. “This is a tragic event that occurred. We can’t say it was my fault, it was my nephew’s fault, it was my father’s fault. It’s just a tragic event that occurred. If there was anything I could do to bring him back, God help me I would.”

No, we can says its your fault, shit-for-brains. Your father didn't bring it to a family picnic, and he didn't load it. Putting himself in the same category as his 6 year old nephew or his dead father has got to be one of the scummiest whines I've seen.

[malaise]

50. Darwin missed this time

he should have shot the moron he has for a father.
they may yet wipe themselves out and cleanse the planet.

[shenmue]

2. :(

[deutsey]

3. Yep...that's the standard stuff I always bring to family BBQs

A bowl of my world-famous potato salad and a loaded AK-47 for everyone to play with after we've all snorted some coke, smoked some weed, and slurped down a couple beers.

Isn't that standard for everyone?

[yellowcanine]

6. Nothing says Traditional Family Values like an AK.....

[Aerows]

15. I always bring my world-famous

Baked Beans and a loaded 9mm with a live round in the chamber and no safety on so that in case you turn out to be a bad person with dangerous potato salad, I can stand my ground and be the good person with a gun. That mayonnaise can be a real killer on a hot day!

[theHandpuppet]

18. LOL!

I'd love to see that skit on SNL.

[Thinkingabout]

4. OMG, I guess this guy had the vehicle to protect his family. Another good

Reason to leave the guns at home and safe and secure. When are the gun nuts going to learn.

[hack89]

5. That guy needs to be in jail for a long time. nt

[Shrike47]

7. The AK was for self protection. He saw the way the people at the next table eyed his ribs.

It is amazing how stupid some people can be.

[maxrandb]

8. Another in the long line of stupid that starts with

"Here...hold ma' beer...."

[Straw Man]

19. Slight correction.

Another in the long line of stupid that starts with

"Here...hold ma' beer...."

The family in question is Hispanic. Your cultural bigotry is somewhat misdirected.

[Packerowner740]

24. Same thing I was thinking

[valerief]

32. I thought they were American. nt

[Straw Man]

34. They very well may be.

But "Here...hold ma' beer...." is a redneck stereotype. The target demographic of that particular slur is the rural white Anglo-Saxon or Scots/Irish underclass.

[valerief]

39. You mean Scottish-American or Irish-American underclass, don't you?

We have plenty of Scottish-Americans and Irish-Americans here in the Northeast. They usually say, "Heeyah, hold my beeyah."

[Straw Man]

49. Yes -- I was referring to their heritage, not their citizenship.

We have plenty of Scottish-Americans and Irish-Americans here in the Northeast. They usually say, "Heeyah, hold my beeyah."

Right, but the redneck stereotype is of rural Southerners.

[BrotherIvan]

62. Ok, that was funny

[Luminous Animal]

59. Exactly.

[maxrandb]

47. Well

Stupid, and doing Stupid stuff while drinking has NO racial bias or skin tone.

Rednecks and idiots come in ALL colors and nationalities.

[GeorgeGist]

56. Straw man ...

got it.

[Straw Man]

60. No.

Straw man ...

got it.

You didn't. Trust me. You didn't.

[etherealtruth]

9. This is absolutely horrifying

The gun owner certainly needs to be held accountable for his absolute disregard for human life (it is a disregard for life if one leaves their weapons to be accessed by children, strangers etc)

[Aristus]

10. That law-abiding gun-owner must be thrilled!

The family that slays together, stays together...

[etherealtruth]

12. Its the fault of the mentally ill ...

... if the mentally ill were all put on a database this jack -ass would not have been irresponsible and played a direct role in the killing of another human being (please tell me I don't need to use the icon)

[Doctor_J]

14. And misogynists

somehow the MRA are involved in this.

[Packerowner740]

26. And the kid will probably become a gangbanger now that he has his first kill

If he wasn't one already

[LeftinOH]

11. AK47 for hunting? Really? And the family picnic also

happens to include a buffet of drugs?

If I was at a family gathering and someone brought out a firearm -even unloaded- I'd throw a absolute screaming fit. Bunch of assholes.

[Doctor_J]

13. Is that every day this week?

For either "accidental" or "Spree" shooting?

[kelliekat44]

17. Twice on Sunday. nt

[n2doc]

16. NRA advice: Buy more Gunz with that inheritance!

I feel awful for that kid. He's never going to be able to see his grandfather again. All because of his idiot Uncle.

[shireen]

25. Yes, that child will be haunted by it his entire life.

Logically, it is not his fault. But a 6-year old cannot process this logically. He will always be the person who killed grandpa. No matter how he rationalizes it later in life, everything he's feeling right now as a kid will NEVER leave him. I hope he's seeing a therapist now to help him process what happened, and at least minimize some of the damage.

[shireen]

21. safety and hunting with AK-47?

Doesn't it have a safety lock like all handguns?

Why is it used for hunting? To tenderize and grind the meat on-site for instant burgers?

This is INSANE.

[Kaleva]

28. Not to quibble but...

a semi auto AK-47 with a 5 round magazine is about as effective as a lever action .30-.30 for hunting deer.

[yellowcanine]

40. Not to quibble but... hardly anyone uses an AK-47 for deer. And no rifles in many locations.

Slug guns or bows are what is permitted in many locations.

[Kaleva]

45. It's rather common where I live in Upper Michigan.

Rifles are legal to hunt with but because of the hilly terrain, rifles capable of long range shots are rather impractical. Carbines, such as the .30-30 and a semi-auto AK-47 fitted with a Michigan hunting legal 5 round magazine are perfectly good choices.

[yellowcanine]

54. Exception which proves the rule.....

[Kaleva]

55. The .30-.30 is probably the most common deer hunting gun in the US

The 7.62x 39mm round many of the AK-47s fire is very similar in ballistic characteristics to the .30-.30 round.

[Straw Man]

61. Not to mention ...

The 7.62x 39mm round many of the AK-47s fire is very similar in ballistic characteristics to the .30-.30 round.

... the SKS, another 7.62x39 semi-auto from the Eastern Bloc, also used -- with adapted low-cap magazine -- to hunt deer.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=752949

[GeorgeGist]

57. Must be a kick ...

blasting away at an unarmed deer. Just saying.

[Kaleva]

63. Is any of the food you eat unarmed?

Part of the price you pay for meat goes to pay the person who did the killing for you.

[Duckhunter935]

51. yes

[Packerowner740]

22. What are those four rules the gun people are always talking about?

And here this poor child will be scarred his entire life by shooting and killing his grandfather.

[Kaleva]

27. The 4 rules many gun owners follow

1) Always assume the gun is unloaded

2)Never secure your gun

3)Feel free to point the gun at anything and everyone because, you know, the weapon is already assumed to be unloaded

4)The handling of guns is more fun when booze and drugs are being consumed. Being drunk or high makes it easier to follow rules 1, 2 and 3

[Kaleva]

23. Drugs, beer, and a gun with a round in the chamber. What could go wrong?

[shenmue]

29. Machine guns

If we kept calling these things by their real names, people would realize they're not so cool, and properly belong to the military.

[raccoon]

30. You got that right.

Nobody needs one for self-defense. If they think they do, they need
to move somewhere else.

[Jenoch]

37. "Machine gun"

typically means full auto. This gun was semi-auto.

Why the gun was loaded, combined with the drugs, tells me much about the family. The dead grandfather also should not have just left the gun on the table.

[yellowcanine]

44. Well yeah and the guy whose gun it was should have picked it right back up.

And should have made sure the gun was not loaded before handing it to grandpa in the first place. In fact, made sure it was not loaded before he brought it outside.

Ultimately, the owner of the gun is responsible - or irresponsible, in this case.

[sarisataka]

41. Then call it

Avtomat Kalashnikov, or Kalash for short. One thing it is definitely not is a machine gun.

I've never considered them coll and I can't say they only belong to the military. I do say one place I believe they definitely do not belong is anywhere there are children running free or people drinking alcohol and doing drugs.

[Duckhunter935]

52. because you would be wrong

It is a semi-automatic rifle that looks like the full auto version but operates very different so it is not a "machine gun".

[valerief]

31. The poor man 'accidentally' left his loaded gun in access of a little kid. Unfortunate accident

is all it is. Nothing to see. Move along.

I hate these gun-lusting lunatics!!!!!!

[dionysus]

33. why, apparently, is it so hard for these clowns to practice gun safety?

first off, it's a party with booze; gun should have never come out of the house. at all.

second, you don't set a gun down on the picnic table where a kid (or anyone for that matter) can just pick it up. I've seen otherwise rational adults who were drunk find a gun and be like "ooh, look at this! and start playing with it)

and even if this idiot still did 1 & 2, why on earth didn't he eject the magazine and clear the chamber.

leaving a gun out like that is negligent enough.. but to leave it there sitting loaded?!?!? despite his gross negligence, this tragedy could have been avoided if he made sure it was empty or had a trigger lock on it.

[HockeyMom]

35. Uncle should be charged

Criminally Negligent Homicide. No, OOPS, I am sorry shit.

[Marrah_G]

36. That poor child

Now he will end up feeling guilty for the rest of his life. I hope someone gets him into therapy right away,

The adults present should be arrested.

[Jenoch]

38. He is getting therapy.

[sarisataka]

42. I can think of someone whose fault it was...

and hopefully he will face all applicable charges.

[Atman]

43. He was pissed because Grandpa took his nose.

Sorry. I couldn't help myself.

[LAGC]

58. That's both funny and sad at the same time.

Poor kid shouldn't have to grow up knowing he killed his grandpa, even if it was an accident.

[KamaAina]

46. If only Grandpa had been armed.

[ileus]

48. He could have at least put the AK on safety.

[Duckhunter935]

53. thsi man needs to be put away

for a long time and the child removed from the home.