Police throw flash grenade in crib, critically burn baby during early morning "no-knock" raid.

[951-Riverside]

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The mother of the toddler told Channel 2 Action News Friday morning that the boy remains in a medically-induced coma.

“He is in a medically induced coma and he is paralyzed. I hope he’s not going to remember this. I know his sisters, his mommy and his daddy will never forget this," the boy's mother, Alecia Phonesavanh, said. "Our kids have been through enough this year. This is just more trauma that they didn’t need, and I just wish there was something better I could do to make it better for him. Wrong place, wrong time. There’s nothing I can do about it."

The family's home in Wisconsin recently burned down, prompting their trop to Atlanta to visit family.

“There’s nothing we can do to change the situation, my husband and I would gladly both give up our lives just to see him not like this. He’s such a happy little boy, and to see him like this laying there, not moving, it’s heartbreaking. We just want to hold him and we can’t," Phonesavanh said.

A family says a SWAT team raided their home in the middle of the night and seriously injured a 19-month-old boy with a stun grenade.

Alecia Phonesavanh told Channel 2’s Ryan Young her child is at the Grady Memorial Hospital burn unit, and is in a medically induced coma.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/toddler-critically-burned-during-swat-raid/nf9SJ/

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Another day, another enemy combatant seriously injured or killed. Thank God these brave men and women get to go home to their families because at the end of the day that's all that matters!

OOH-RAH!!!!!

Riot Police Anaheim, California 2012
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Woman's face after encounter with two male Albuquerque Police officers in 2012
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[questionseverything]

1. heartbreaking

sad and scary that these animals walk among us

[Ed Suspicious]

2. Escaped the fire in Wisconsin without burns only to be burned by a grenade to the face.

FMR!

[RainDog]

3. k&r n/t

[dhill926]

4. fucking assholes….

that poor kid. Heartbreaking.

[frylock]

5. fuck tha police

[Jamastiene]

6. Is this the point where we are supposed to say our obligatory, "They are heroes"

lip service to them to maybe make them consider NOT doing that to us too?

When can we call it out of control?

Poor baby.

[Ed Suspicious]

7. Just wanted to share the special response from the sheriff.

At least next time they'll "double question" before they through a grenade at a baby.

http://www.wsbtv.com/videos/news/infant-critical-after-flashbang-thrown-on-him-by/vCcTwf/


http://www.wsbtv.com/videos/news/toddler-critically-burned-during-swat-raid/vCcS6x/

[Jenoch]

8. I don't think the cops should be using flash bang grenades in these no-knock raids.

I'm also not convinced they should be doing these kinds of raids. Wait until the drug dealers come out the door.

One more note, the family from Wisconsin should have been made aware of what kind of activities their Georgia family was up to before going there.

[truedelphi]

11. Even if you know everything you can about people you visit -

The facts tell us that again and again the police go to the wrong house!

Police Departments across the USA use Google maps to let them know the location of where they are going. When I checked on my old address in Sausalito, the "house" I lived in was portrayed as an empty intersection some 600 feet from my front door.

Also they get the addresses totally wrong, and end up at the wrong house on account of that error. You would think they would phone someone at the residence, or somehow scope out the address before they do this, but usually they simply storm in.

[Arkansas Granny]

17. Oh, yeah. When I go to visit people I always ask them if they are involved in any illegal

activities that might precipitate a SWAT raid in the middle of the night. Doesn't everyone do that?


Seriously?

[Jenoch]

18. If I had family that were involved in

illegal activities to the point that the police conducted a no-knock raid, I would be aware of it.

[arikara]

20. Lots of people do lots of things

that people in their immediate families are not aware of. Some people are just really good at being crooks.

[groundloop]

21. Sorry, but that's pretty naive

Someone who lives a fair distance away can't possibly be expected to know what their friends/family are into, not when you don't see them often. I've had a relative involved in crap like this, do you think she told us what she was into? And sorry, unless you're an expert at dealing with drug addicts and criminals you're probably not going to see the outward signs.

As for the no-knock raids - that shit has to stop. There are too many screw ups and too many innocent people being hurt.

[951-Riverside]

27. Amen brother!

If they knocked then the dealer might have flushed the evidence!

And nevermind there are millions of bars where people can legally get shit face drunk and nevermind the fact that anyone can have a party, get pissed drunk in their own homes until they violently shit themselves.

If someone dare sells DRUGS (by the way, the dealer wasnt even in the house GO FIGURE!), the police thinks its perfectly okay to go to the home unannounced in the morning, toss a grenade in the house without even giving thought who would be inside and rush in.

And all of this is done to prevent someone from flushing evidence. This baby took a grenade to the face because they didnt want someone flushing evidence but hey this family are enemy combatants and the baby is collateral damage.

In the end, the officer's well being and safety is all that matters.

OOH-RAH!



Riot Police Anaheim, California 2012
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Woman's face after encounter with two male Albuquerque Police officers in 2012
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^ THIS ENEMY COMBATANT SHOULDN'T HAVE RAN! ...OOH-RAH!

[arikara]

19. Who should have made them aware?

But you're absolutely right. What's wrong with keeping surveillance and picking up the bad guy when he comes out the door? Why do they have to burst in like a bunch of moron stormtroopers and critically injure poor little babies in their crib.

[kath]

9. Fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking PIGS! And Stop the goddam War on Drugs NOW.

[redqueen]

13. This. nt

[m-lekktor]

45. yup.

[Louisiana1976]

10. The baby's parents should sue the police for the medical costs, at least.

That baby will need reconstructive surgery which isn't covered by insurance.

[Submariner]

16. I would just send the bills to the local police chief

It might not work, but I would be so pissed I would send them certified mail to the police chief with a note stating here is your bill for throwing a flash grenade in front of my baby's face. Just pay it and don't give me any back talk, you've caused enough damage.

[Laffy Kat]

34. Some punative damages as well IMO.

This shit has got to stop.

[Half-Century Man]

12. I had to go through eight articles before

I found out that the suspect wasn't at the location and the drug sold was Meth (amount unknown).
http://news.gnom.es/news/he-didnt-deserve-any-of-this-toddler-severely-burned-by-stun-grenade-during-police-raid-on-georgia-home

The suspect was caught at a different location. I would like to know the circumstances of that arrest please, the amount of force used, the drugs ans amounts at time of arrest, weapons present, and the amount purchased which started this shit storm.

[Saviolo]

23. I wish I could rec this.

It's so common that the suspect isn't even at the location that the police burst into. Whoever threw that stun grenade should be charged with gross negligence causing grievous bodily harm.

[Jenoch]

24. Several years ago in the Twin Cities four or five gang members

threw a Molotov cocktail through the front window of the house where a rival gang member lived. He was not there. His five younger siblings all died in the fire. I always thought the gang member who was not at home but was the target should have been charged with something, although I don't know what the charges should have been.

[SalviaBlue]

35. Yea good point, the cops are no better than fucking thug gangs.

[Jenoch]

38. That was not really my point.

These particular cops' actions resulted in unintended consequences. All cops are not bad, gang members are. My point was the person the cops were looking for should bear some responsibility for the injuries to that child.

[MelungeonWoman]

47. Any way to shift the blame. n/t

[Comrade Grumpy]

49. I think that's the "You made me do it" school of blame diversion.

You want to punish "the person the cops were looking for" for the cops' misbehavior?

[Jenoch]

53. If a person involved in criminal activity were not associated with that address

the baby would not have been injured. I wish to punish the criminal as well as the LEO.

[951-Riverside]

54. Amen brother. The baby is nothing more than collateral damage.

War isnt pretty.

OOH-RAH!

[Jenoch]

56. You are way off base and I should reply in a way that will get me another hide.

But I won't do that.

Please show me where I have defended the LEO in this situation.

[951-Riverside]

62. No, you have it all wrong brother. I agree with you.

The rules of engagement are always vastly different in war time and there is always going to be collateral damage. War isn't clean or pretty.

Ultimately what matters is that our heroes make it back home to their families at the end of the day.

OOH-RAH!

[Jenoch]

63. I have no idea what your point is.

I do know it has nothing to do with what I have written.

[951-Riverside]

69. Sorry if I'm confusing you bro but I agree with everything you said.

If a person involved in criminal activity were not associated with that address the baby would not have been injured.

Absolutely brother. .

These enemy combatants brought this whole situation upon themselves and share responsibly for the collateral damage that took place. In war people (including babies) are going to get seriously injured or hurt, that's unavoidable.

I don't see what the disagreement is here. I 100% agree with you.

OOH-RAH!

You gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.

[Jenoch]

70. Bullshit.

I do not agree with you.

I do not believe that collateral damage is inevitable in law enforcement.I'm done responding to you. I don't play these stupid games.

[Comrade Grumpy]

57. No. You don't get to get away with that shit.

The injury to the child is the DIRECT RESULT of the police choice of tactics. The police did not have to treat that home and its residents as if they were enemy combatants. The police were executing a warrant for rinky-dink drug sales. They had plenty of options other than going in like gangbusters.

I remember when it used to be: "The place is surrounded. Come out with your hands up."

We don't need law enforcement acting like thugs, and you know as well as I do that there is an endless litany of them doing just that, and we certainly don't need apologetics for their thuggery.

As for punishing the criminal, as far as I can tell, the owner of the house (the family of the injured child were visitors) has been charged with a drug sales offense. Not convicted. And there were no drugs there, only "residue." Amazingly enough, according to CNN, prosecutors said "Thonetheva could also be charged in connection with the baby's injuries." That is mind-bogglingly brazen.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/30/us/georgia-toddler-injured-stun-grenade-drug-raid/

[Jenoch]

60. Are you an ESL student?

Go back and read my post where I said cops should not use flash bangs and should pick up the perp as he is leaving the house.

You sure wrote a lot of words that have absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote..

[Lancero]

43. One story says the one who bought it was a informant...

Another, a deputy.

Either way, neither of them reported seeing anything that would suggest a toddler was in the house when they were inside making the deal.

...Which is pretty fucking impossible.

I have some doubts that the police even had a informant for this - They just decided to raid the place again because they arrested a guy their in the past for drugs. The informant ploy is them trying to cover their asses, something to deflect blame from the officers who participated in the brutal attack on this toddler to a non-existant person who provided them with non-existant fake information. While 'they decided to raid the place for the hell of it' may sound far fetched, pointless raids have happened many time in the past. Hell, one family was visited and raided a few times a month by police trying to arrest a dead man.

Anyway, a update to the story doesn't give much hope for the toddler. One, he's paralyzed. Two, he's got a large laceration right on his chest, that can't be closed because the grenade charred - read cooked - his skin. Lastly, he's lost use of one of his lungs. Given that the police threw the grenade right on top of the toddler it's a miracle that he even survived the detonation, but I don't think that he'll survive this. A body that small isn't meant to take damage of this magnitude.

Edit - None of the stories mentioned anything about it but, just from seeing the damage on his face, I'd figure that his right eye is blinded.

[Tsiyu]

44. Do you have a link for this info?

It's just heartbreaking

I know WSB News refused to show all the child's injuries because it was just too gruesome. Read: Gotta protect the Goon Squads from the consequences of their actions.

Or else they know if people see the extent of this child's maiming, they will all want to bomb the Habersham County Sheriff's office, since we're at war and all

[Lancero]

48. Yeah

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/da-investigating-swat-raid-critically-injured-todd/nf95Z/

One story says confidental informant, another says deputies, another says confidental informant... Seems like someone is having issues remembering just where they got the 'information' that led to the raid.

[Tsiyu]

52. Funny how that happens... all this forgetting

My belief: they just want a chance to use their most intimidating toys.

Like the thugs they are, like gangbangers.

No regard for anyone's safety, no regard for how all children, seeing this story on the news, are going to develop terror over seeing cops.

"Mommy, is that cop over there gonna throw a grenade at us?"

Thank you so much for the link. I quoted you in my other thread

[lpbk2713]

14. Remember this pic next time you hear about a driver getting a ticket ...

for not having a child buckled in their seat or in a baby carrier.

They might tell you it's for the child's safety but in reality they really
don't GAF about kids getting hurt, it's all about revenue with them.
In this case it was just another incident of collateral damage.

[SoapBox]

15. The Police Militias, continue to be

Out...Of...Control.

And they answer to no one.

[Ikonoklast]

22. May those bastards reap what they sow.

God damn them straight to Hell.

[christx30]

25. But at least those

brave police made it home safely.

[polly7]

26. OMG .... that poor little guy. Horrible. nt.

[PowerToThePeople]

28. Honestly

Have those fucking puke pigs march their happy asses against the wall and face a firing squad.

[Dawson Leery]

29. Worthless, overpaid, county bankrupting filth!

The uniform has done nothing of use lately.

I am more than tired of hearing how wonderful these "heros" are.

It is time to knock them down where their belong. Also, the Law Enforcement Museum needs to be shut down.

[Dawson Leery]

30. Anything bad that happens to these overpaid subhuman filth will be well earned!

[bravenak]

31. Cops.

Criminally organized personnel service.

[Benton D Struckcheon]

32. FYI, for those who may not know,

no-knock was the brainchild of John Mitchell, Nixon's AG, to be used against radicals like, say, the Black Panthers. One of the first, if not the first, actual use of this fascist police tactic was against Fred Hampton, who was killed in cold blood by the Chicago police. Check that, murdered.
No one was ever brought to justice for that crime.

[Comrade Grumpy]

50. Thank you. Some of us are old enough to remember it wasn't always like this.

[malaise]

33. Looks like the official new approach to policing

Fucking pig all.

[Oakenshield]

36. Disarm the entire lot of these jackbooted thugs.

Time and time again they have proven themselves wholly incapable of exercising the restraint required when gambling with human lives. Or really life in general.

Only give these sociopaths a gun when shots have been fired.

[Warren DeMontague]

37. Yay Drug War!!!!

The important thing is that the pot smoker gets put in a prison cell. That's all that matters.

[Blue Owl]

39. Enough.

ENOUGH.

[tabasco]

40. THE WAR ON DRUGS!! YAY!!

Just some unfortunate collateral damage in the neverending war on drugs and civil liberties.

WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

[Liberal_in_LA]

41. i hope they bankrupt tha swatbteam out of existence

[NealK]

42. Cops:

To Protect and to Serve

[Heywood J]

46. Does Georgia have a depraved-indifference law these days? (NT)

[TeeYiYi]

51. You should put a bandwidth warning in your subject line...

This post killed my browser, twice, and I'm not on dial-up.

TYY

[Rex]

55. 9/11 changed everything. We are now the enemy to authorities.

They don't give two shits about human life...well they care about their own Blue Brothers and Sisters...but that is where it ends. We NEVER, EVER should have made our law enforcement into a para-military group. Plus, police are far FAR too violent toward civilians. They seem to WANT to shoot first. That in itself is depressing.

[Comrade Grumpy]

58. CNN: "SWAT Team Threatened After Grendade Injures Toddler in Drug Raid"

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/30/us/georgia-toddler-injured-stun-grenade-drug-raid/

Tsk, tsk.

[951-Riverside]

61. *sigh*

From the article:

"All I can say is pray for the baby, his family and for us," - Sheriff Joey Terrell

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That arrogant toothy smirk he has on his face when he talks about that poor baby just makes my skin crawl.

"Yeah sure the baby is in a coma and probably paralyzed but *smile* ...we'll probably do things a teeny bit different next time. Now pray for us. Tee Hee"

[PowerToThePeople]

72. I agree

Someone should shove a flash grenade in this jerk-off's mouth and see how he likes it.

[Dawson Leery]

73. Uniform worship needs to stop.

[Logical]

59. They will deliver milk next week and all will be good! n-t

[uponit7771]

65. There were no weapons in the home and only drug 'residue' was found inside

[Warren DeMontague]

66. That's what you get, for smoking teh marijuana in your own home.

Or, maybe, having an address that is mistaken for someone who smoked teh marijuana.

[Jesus Malverde]

67. Bump...nt

[LadyHawkAZ]

68. This is ridiculous

I understand the necessity of a police force but it's long been glaringly obvious that there needs to be independent, citizen oversight and real-world consequences for uniformed thugs.

A 19-month-old baby. JFC.

[pediatricmedic]

71. Holy compromised airway, kid is lucky to still be alive

The flash bang went off only inches away from the kids face. I wonder if the kid will have any sensory deficits after something like that. Hearing and eyesight may be permanently damaged. Concussive force on the brain and nervous system is also pretty substantial at that range.

The kid isn't even breathing on his own in that picture.