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PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
Sat May 31, 2014, 01:55 PM May 2014

Bilderberg - why democracy is going down the toilet

Thursday is the opening day of the influential three-day summit and it's also the 60th anniversary of the Bilderberg Group's first meeting, which took place in Holland on 29 May 1954. So this year's event is a red-letter occasion, and the official participant list shows that the 2014 conference is a peculiarly high-powered affair.

The [British] chancellor, at his seventh Bilderberg, is spending the next three days deep in conference with the heads of MI6, Nato, the International Monetary Fund, HSBC, Shell, BP and Goldman Sachs International, along with dozens of other chief executives, billionaires and high-ranking politicians from around Europe. This year also includes a visit from the supreme allied commander Europe, and a return of royalty – Queen Sofia of Spain and Princess Beatrix of the Netherlands, the daughter of the Bilderberg founder Prince Bernhard.

SNIP>>>

The Bilderberg Group says the conference has no desired outcome. But for private equity giants, and the heads of banks, arms manufacturers and oil companies, there's always a desired outcome. Try telling the shareholders of Shell that there's "no desired outcome" of their chairman and chief executive spending three days in conference with politicians and policy makers.

Try telling that to the lobbyists who have been working so hard to push the Transatlantic Trade Investment Partnership (TTIP) deal that is being negotiated. Bilderberg is packed to the gills with senior members of powerful lobby groups. Will members of BritishAmerican Business's international advisory board, such as Douglas Flint and Peter Sutherland, express BAB's fervent support of TTIP when discussing "Is the economic recovery sustainable?" Or will they leave their lobbying hats at the door?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/29/bilderberg-60-inside-worlds-most-secretive-conference

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Bilderberg - why democracy is going down the toilet (Original Post) PumpkinAle May 2014 OP
Cue the posts screaming, "Conspiracy Theory!" woo me with science May 2014 #1
+ 8 Billion!! 2naSalit May 2014 #2
You never really loved the wealthiest, most powerful individuals and groups on Earth IDemo May 2014 #3
If this is alerted then it is altered PumpkinAle May 2014 #4
I believe this group is more lethal to the middle and lower classes than the Koch's annual djean111 May 2014 #6
Interersting that the post you put up cites The Guardian. truedelphi May 2014 #10
"DU moderating protocols should really be changed." How so? nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #19
Among subjects the Old DU had no tolerance for: truedelphi May 2014 #24
there is no moderating. mopinko May 2014 #23
I found The Guardian through DU. obxhead May 2014 #27
They bring us good things jamzrockz May 2014 #9
The money, it is good. Octafish May 2014 #18
it's not that the meeting's secret, it's who's meeting IOW (they collude anyway from class interest) MisterP May 2014 #21
It shouldn't be forbidden to say that these powerful and wealthy nyabingi May 2014 #31
I don't know what all the conspiracy theorizing is about... Shandris May 2014 #5
Oh how I wish you could post this as an OP! Delicious sarcasm! Thank you, Shandris! nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #20
Can you imagine their individual budgets for Cosplay outfits? hatrack May 2014 #25
The stunning thing for me is they dont have enough...that is what most of them worry about randys1 May 2014 #7
It gives me a warm feeling inside knowing these guys are consensus building in secret. pa28 May 2014 #8
Noted tinfoil hat media outlet CNBC has put up an article truedelphi May 2014 #14
Oh good gawd....we are going to be promoting the Bilderberg Conspiracy theories on DU now? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #11
I think it makes sense to admit that if "The Guardian" is discussing an issue, or a gathering of truedelphi May 2014 #12
OHHHHH The Guardian.....THAT makes all the difference... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #15
The Guardian: GET YOUR CONSPIRACY THEORIES HERE! ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #13
I'm confused, is there or is there not a gathering of rich and powerful dudes in the CA forest? nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #16
Because the Koch brothers and ALEC and their minions from Rand Paul to Paul Ryan and the many states freshwest May 2014 #22
Tucker reported about Bilderberg since 1975 jakeXT May 2014 #28
So many Economic Terrorists gathered in one spot! bvar22 May 2014 #17
''Because fascism is kicking its ass, Alex?'' DeSwiss May 2014 #26
The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own And Control The Politicians That Own And Control Us cantbeserious May 2014 #29
Quite a few Professors of economics this year arikara May 2014 #30
Agenda doubles as a stock tip sheet. Octafish May 2014 #32
^ Wilms Jun 2014 #33

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
1. Cue the posts screaming, "Conspiracy Theory!"
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:03 PM
May 2014

and trying to invoke images of tinfoil-hatted extremists imagining lizard-skinned alien Illuminati. I would not even be surprised if this post were alerted on and juried.

It's happened before here just at the mention of the Bilderbergs.

We are to believe that meetings of the wealthiest, most powerful individuals and groups on Earth do not naturally involve planning for the interests of the wealthiest, most powerful individuals and groups on Earth.

PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
4. If this is alerted then it is altered
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:11 PM
May 2014

but the article gives good information on just who is collaborating with whom and while it may come across as "conspiracy-theory bs", there is much about Bilderberg that ordinary people should be disturbed about.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
6. I believe this group is more lethal to the middle and lower classes than the Koch's annual
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:21 PM
May 2014

party.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
10. Interersting that the post you put up cites The Guardian.
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:54 PM
May 2014

When a subject gets into the pages of The Guardian, DU moderating protocols should really be changed.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
24. Among subjects the Old DU had no tolerance for:
Sat May 31, 2014, 03:49 PM
May 2014

Any mention of Bilderberg, Zeitgeist movies, chem trails, etc.

Chem trails and their effects on health and plant growth, drought, rain propagation etc, are now investigated by decent Scandinavian scientists. And we see today that the Guardian is into discussing Bilderbergs.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
27. I found The Guardian through DU.
Sat May 31, 2014, 04:24 PM
May 2014

It was and has been well known as a trusted source here from the time when I was just a lowly lurker.

I guess things really have changed since 2009. Prior to that year any Guardian post would be celebrated for its factual truth. Now its a ct rag.

Change, it really did happen, but not like we expected.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
18. The money, it is good.
Sat May 31, 2014, 03:23 PM
May 2014

[font color="green"]One of the things that is interesting about reading conspiracy theory is that much of what folks think is conspiracy is really many people acting in concert to make or protect their money." - Catherine Austin Fitts[/font color]

A big shot in Poppy's crew, Fitts got fed up with the corruption at the highest levels of government, business and finance. She's doing all she can to document corruption on Wall Street and Washington and helping those who give a damn do something about it. Her Narcodollars for Beginners deserves a Pulitzer.

Integrity is an alien concept to the plutocrat. Like the Bilderbergers. Like at Davos. Like at Bohemian Grove. Aspens all.

nyabingi

(1,145 posts)
31. It shouldn't be forbidden to say that these powerful and wealthy
Sat May 31, 2014, 05:26 PM
May 2014

are indeed "conspiring" to arrange the world for their benefit.

Many people have problems with even acknowledging that these meetings take place and that calling them out places you in a category of crazy people who are mentally unstable.

The attendees to these meetings (and the World Economic Forum) aren't really hiding the fact that they are "conspiring" to dominate the globe, and they count on the label "conspiracy theory" to drive off the curious and concerned.

The last post here about this group caused one person to warn those who questioned these powerful people with excommunication of sorts if they went into "conspiracy theory" territory.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
5. I don't know what all the conspiracy theorizing is about...
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:21 PM
May 2014

...I mean, I just know that when I think of the most powerful people on the face of the planet, who collectively have more money than God and haven't had a real smile, laugh, or emotion in their vampiric bodies for a couple of centuries, the first thing I think of is how -relaxing- and -unguided-, how agendaless a gathering of them must be.

I'll bet they sit around and watch reruns of Labyrinth and the Goonies! Or maybe Mr. Bilderberg pulls out a copy of the First Edition D&D handbook and screen and they have a rousing dungeon crawl, complete with 25mm lead minis! No no, wait, they're modern folks too. Got it!

The Bilderberg's -real- 'agenda' is to troll camping points in Call of Duty. I should have know.

But I'm sure it has -nothing- to do with power, control, the dispensation of wealth, or how to screw over the remaining 99.99999% of humanity!

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
25. Can you imagine their individual budgets for Cosplay outfits?
Sat May 31, 2014, 03:50 PM
May 2014

I'll bet the sequins are all real diamonds, washed in the tears of Syrian refugees for that extra special sheen!!

Awesome!

randys1

(16,286 posts)
7. The stunning thing for me is they dont have enough...that is what most of them worry about
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:23 PM
May 2014

Especially the righty, but they worry that the 5 billion they have might just not be enough and they need to destroy another union or bankrupt another city to make sure they have enough

pa28

(6,145 posts)
8. It gives me a warm feeling inside knowing these guys are consensus building in secret.
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:25 PM
May 2014

Henry Kissinger
David Petraeus
Peter Thiel (Hedge Fund)
Henry Kravis (KKR)
Richard Perle (neocon scumbag)
Robert Rubin
Larry (what would Goldman think) Summers

Plus many other players from the world of government, industry and finance. Nothing to see here . . . nope.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
14. Noted tinfoil hat media outlet CNBC has put up an article
Sat May 31, 2014, 03:01 PM
May 2014

On others who will be in attendance.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<sarcam alert for above statement>

The list includes:

Google's Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt and Christine Lagarde, the managing director of the International Monetary Fund.

NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen will also be in attendance, along with American diplomat Henry Kissinger and ECB Executive Board Member Benoît Coeuré.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101713621

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
12. I think it makes sense to admit that if "The Guardian" is discussing an issue, or a gathering of
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:58 PM
May 2014

a group of the One Percent, then people here should be allowed to.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
22. Because the Koch brothers and ALEC and their minions from Rand Paul to Paul Ryan and the many states
Sat May 31, 2014, 03:35 PM
May 2014
that the Kochroaches infest are just so boring if it doesn't affect you!

Infowars came out first against the Bilderbergers, but not Reagan or Reaganomics. Alex shown here:



He supports all ALEC and Koch initatives, verbatim from the Koch list:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024806298

He's for guns for any time and everywhere, both the Pauls and Putin. BTW, that thing in Santa Barbara?

Another false flag to steal the guns! They all are!

And the NRA is not far right enough for him. He only supports Larry Pratt's GOA. He's against emigrants, taxes, public schools, gay and women's rights, liberals, banksters, Zionists all of that.

So... Look! SHINY!

Don't worry, Alex, our Libertarian hero will get the big bad Bilderbergers for us at the same time:



Although he always misses seeing the Koch corporatist agenda, somehow...


 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
26. ''Because fascism is kicking its ass, Alex?''
Sat May 31, 2014, 04:11 PM
May 2014
- That is correct for $500. Congratulations, now let's move on to Double Jeopardy with Edward Snowden questions where the prizes are just as likely to be ignored and rejected by the very people they were meant for, and the penalties could mean life in prison or at the very least in an airport, for the man who brought it to them!

K&R

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arikara

(5,562 posts)
30. Quite a few Professors of economics this year
Sat May 31, 2014, 05:21 PM
May 2014

There is one there again that I can never figure out, and she's attended every meeting for years. That's Heather Reisman, CEO of Indigo books. It's kind of a nothing operation, never has been much to my knowledge, it's obviously a front for something else she's up to.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
32. Agenda doubles as a stock tip sheet.
Sat May 31, 2014, 05:58 PM
May 2014

The key topics for discussion this year include:

• Is the economic recovery sustainable?
• Who will pay for the demographics?
• Does privacy exist?
• How special is the relationship in intelligence sharing?
• Big shifts in technology and jobs
• The future of democracy and the middle class trap
• China’s political and economic outlook
• The new architecture of the Middle East
• Ukraine
• What next for Europe?
• Current events

SOURCE: My good friend, Wayne.

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