Snowden: Traitor, Hero, or Just Another Schlub?

[JJChambers]

Seems like DU is fairly divided on this guy.

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	Traitor
	1 (17%)
	Hero
	3 (50%)
	Just Another Schlub
	2 (33%)
	0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[BillZBubb]

1. A 21st century hero.

The ad hominems from the authoritarian national security/surveillance state apologists notwithstanding.

[JJChambers]

2. There's nothing inherently wrong with "authoritarians"

The rule of law is important and should be respected.

[BillZBubb]

4. We have a fundamental disagreement.

Perhaps your dictionary gives a different meaning than mine. Authoritarianism is rarely a good thing. Look it up and get back to me. I think you may want to withdraw your comment. At least I hope so.

The rule of law is important, I agree, but not absolute. When any citizen finds gross violations of liberty and/or the constitution, they should be applauded for making that public NO MATTER WHAT THE LAW SAYS. Very few are brave enough to do so. Snowden, to his great credit, was brave enough.

[JVS]

3. Shitty choices. Would have voted none of the options, but since it's a push poll pushed back to hero

[BillZBubb]

5. How is it push polled?

You've got three choices, two of which are unfavorable. There is no leading statement steering you to vote "hero". It is not a push poll.

Plus, it is difficult to get everyone's nuance on a list of options.

Vote for one and comment about why that isn't exactly right. Or don't vote and explain what your choice would have been if available. Or make up your own poll.

[JVS]

6. Don't tell me how to vote. The options already suck and you know why.

edited because the person this post is addressed to isn't the OP

[BillZBubb]

7. Wow.

Nice dialog there buddy. First, I'm not the OP, so they aren't "my options". And frankly, I don't know what your objections are to the options. You never explained other than incorrectly calling it a "push poll".

As for how you vote, I don't really care and certainly didn't tell you how to vote. I offered some constructive options for you. But obviously, you are not interested.

[JVS]

9. No, I'm not interested in you telling me how to vote, and that's just what you did.

[JJChambers]

10. Lol

Calm down. Don't vote if you don't like it.

[LanternWaste]

8. The stories re: warrant-less surveillance themselves are important

The stories re: warrant-less surveillance themselves are important (as they were in 2005 when Bush addressed them in more than one weekly radio broadcast).

The rest, including gossip and chit-chat of dramatis persona worthy of gossip columnist Hedda Hopper though, is merely window dressing for the Entertainment Tonight crowd. Sticking to the actual stories are a difficult trick for the infotainment rabble.

[Leme]

11. yeah, it's the substantive stuff that is more important

The Snowden story is of importance, just not as much. Easier/ more profitable for media and politicians to do a Snowden remark, than to explain the NSA doings.
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And America suffers because of that imo.

[BillZBubb]

12. Do you think it is just window dressing?

Or a systematic attempt to deflect the discussion onto the persona of Snowden rather than the real issues? To me, it is the latter.

[LanternWaste]

13. I have no reason to think its a conscious decision to deflect or re-brand...

I have no reason to think its a conscious decision to deflect or re-brand. I do however, have 3.2 million (the combined average nightly viewership of Entertainment Tonight, Access Hollywood and Extra) reasons to believe gossip, scandal and entertainment receive more column inches and broadcast minutes than all other news stories.

If a buck can be made, there's a reality television show in this soon, with viewers calling in a vote...