Sun Jun 8, 2014, 09:51 AM
ashling (25,768 posts)
Anti American statements made by POW![]() Conservatives are just trying to score political points. If we are going to investigate and see if there are grounds for court martial, so be it. It doesn't matter with regard to bringing him home -- he has the right to a trial anyway
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ashling | Jun 2014 | OP |
stage left | Jun 2014 | #1 | |
DhhD | Jun 2014 | #2 | |
JackRiddler | Jun 2014 | #5 | |
JackRiddler | Jun 2014 | #3 | |
jwirr | Jun 2014 | #9 | |
Voice for Peace | Jun 2014 | #4 | |
Scarsdale | Jun 2014 | #6 | |
asjr | Jun 2014 | #7 | |
Scarsdale | Jun 2014 | #8 | |
asjr | Jun 2014 | #10 | |
otohara | Jun 2014 | #11 | |
otohara | Jun 2014 | #12 | |
ashling | Jun 2014 | #13 | |
JackRiddler | Jun 2014 | #14 |
Response to ashling (Original post)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 11:23 AM
stage left (2,323 posts)
1. Because we don't leave our soldiers behind.
You don't suppose Vietnam would take him back, do you?
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Response to stage left (Reply #1)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 11:30 AM
DhhD (4,695 posts)
2. I believe that many Americans do not want him back in the Senate either.
Response to stage left (Reply #1)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 11:49 AM
JackRiddler (24,979 posts)
5. As soon as "we" send them into wars of aggression
That is exactly what "we" have done.
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Response to ashling (Original post)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 11:34 AM
JackRiddler (24,979 posts)
3. Truest words McCain ever attested to.
It was under duress, however:
"I am a black criminal and I have performed the deeds of an air pirate. I almost died and the Vietnamese people saved my life, thanks to the doctors." What is anti-American therein? The truth cannot be "anti-American." If anything, it is understated. "Air pirate" sounds harmless compared to what he was really doing. The honorable alternative to participating in mass murder as an aggressor is to desert. If Bergdahl unlike McCain happened to do that, we should not condemn him. |
Response to JackRiddler (Reply #3)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 01:10 PM
jwirr (39,215 posts)
9. I remember back when we actually believed that. Well maybe even then it was just a bunch of
young people who believed it. But is hippies were right.
McCain should be very ashamed of himself about now. |
Response to ashling (Original post)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 11:44 AM
Voice for Peace (13,141 posts)
4. Truly, if we had left him in Vietnam, we would never have heard of Sarah Palin.
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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #4)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 12:12 PM
Scarsdale (9,426 posts)
6. Too bad
I doubt that the Vietnamese wanted him. He was nicknamed "Songbird" for good reasons. Deserter? Dubya was unaccounted for for almost a year while in the National Guard. He deserted, then has the gall to send young kids to the front lines to fight for his friends to make lots of war profits. Mccain is a joke, not a "hero" Read the Rolling Stone article by Matt Taiibi about his service. No wonder he has his military records sealed. His good friend, Senator Foghorn Leghorn served stateside in an office, yet spouts off about this young man who volunteered to serve his country. The gop has turned into a bunch of bought and paid for senile old men, who just want their ugly mugs on TV EVERY Sunday. The so-called "journalists" just nod in agreement, while these "representatives" read their talking points, all alike from headquarters (Fox News)
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Response to ashling (Original post)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 12:29 PM
asjr (10,479 posts)
7. I don't know how McCain keeps both
sides of his face connected. He is the master of hot air. When he finally got back to US soil the first thing I remember about him is he left his wife, divorced her and decided he would marry again for money--and he did.
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Response to asjr (Reply #7)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 12:44 PM
Scarsdale (9,426 posts)
8. Medical bills
His first wife had been in a bad car accident, leaving her needing crutches. In order to keep him from worrying (as if he would!) she did not tell him. Nancy Reagan and some politicians paid her medical bills, when little Johnny left her. None of them ever had any respect for him after that., Nancy loathed him. He is not an honorable man, he is a toad. His daughter, Meghan, wrote a book about him "My Dad" and did not even mention his first wife, as if she never existed!!He used his connections to keep his second wife out of prison for stealing medications from a charity she ran. He should do the country the best service EVER, and resign.
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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #8)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 03:50 PM
asjr (10,479 posts)
10. I can't name one thing he has done for our country since
he has been in office. Of course he is not the only member in the do-nothing party so he has some other buddies to lean on.
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Response to ashling (Original post)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 04:02 PM
otohara (24,135 posts)
11. What Did He Say?
link?
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Response to ashling (Original post)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 06:37 PM
otohara (24,135 posts)
12. Snopes Says False
Response to otohara (Reply #12)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 07:21 PM
ashling (25,768 posts)
13. Snopes does NOT refute the op
The op does Not refer to any 60 minutes interview or statement that McCain may have given after he returned home. It refers to a statement given by him while a Prisoner of War.
In fact,in explaining that he never made such statement of 60 minutes, Snopes explains that he was coerced by his captors. The OP does not deny that these statements may have been made under duress. That is sort of the point. The analogy being that when Bergdahl was in custody he may have made anti-American statements. But your post, Snopes Says False, is notapplicable. Refer to post #3, above. |
Response to otohara (Reply #12)
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 12:04 AM
JackRiddler (24,979 posts)
14. Did you read that article?
It actually quotes McCain as saying that he signed such a confession, under duress, which is the point. McCain is a total hypocrite now to speak in complete ignorance about what Bergdahl might have said while captive and under duress.
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