Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

ashling

(25,771 posts)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 10:51 AM Jun 2014

Anti American statements made by POW



Conservatives are just trying to score political points. If we are going to investigate and see if there are grounds for court martial, so be it. It doesn't matter with regard to bringing him home -- he has the right to a trial anyway
14 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Anti American statements made by POW (Original Post) ashling Jun 2014 OP
Because we don't leave our soldiers behind. stage left Jun 2014 #1
I believe that many Americans do not want him back in the Senate either. DhhD Jun 2014 #2
As soon as "we" send them into wars of aggression JackRiddler Jun 2014 #5
Truest words McCain ever attested to. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #3
I remember back when we actually believed that. Well maybe even then it was just a bunch of jwirr Jun 2014 #9
Truly, if we had left him in Vietnam, we would never have heard of Sarah Palin. Voice for Peace Jun 2014 #4
Too bad Scarsdale Jun 2014 #6
I don't know how McCain keeps both asjr Jun 2014 #7
Medical bills Scarsdale Jun 2014 #8
I can't name one thing he has done for our country since asjr Jun 2014 #10
What Did He Say? otohara Jun 2014 #11
Snopes Says False otohara Jun 2014 #12
Snopes does NOT refute the op ashling Jun 2014 #13
Did you read that article? JackRiddler Jun 2014 #14
 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
3. Truest words McCain ever attested to.
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 12:34 PM
Jun 2014

It was under duress, however:

"I am a black criminal and I have performed the deeds of an air pirate. I almost died and the Vietnamese people saved my life, thanks to the doctors."

What is anti-American therein? The truth cannot be "anti-American." If anything, it is understated. "Air pirate" sounds harmless compared to what he was really doing.

The honorable alternative to participating in mass murder as an aggressor is to desert. If Bergdahl unlike McCain happened to do that, we should not condemn him.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
9. I remember back when we actually believed that. Well maybe even then it was just a bunch of
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 02:10 PM
Jun 2014

young people who believed it. But is hippies were right.

McCain should be very ashamed of himself about now.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
6. Too bad
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jun 2014

I doubt that the Vietnamese wanted him. He was nicknamed "Songbird" for good reasons. Deserter? Dubya was unaccounted for for almost a year while in the National Guard. He deserted, then has the gall to send young kids to the front lines to fight for his friends to make lots of war profits. Mccain is a joke, not a "hero" Read the Rolling Stone article by Matt Taiibi about his service. No wonder he has his military records sealed. His good friend, Senator Foghorn Leghorn served stateside in an office, yet spouts off about this young man who volunteered to serve his country. The gop has turned into a bunch of bought and paid for senile old men, who just want their ugly mugs on TV EVERY Sunday. The so-called "journalists" just nod in agreement, while these "representatives" read their talking points, all alike from headquarters (Fox News)

asjr

(10,479 posts)
7. I don't know how McCain keeps both
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 01:29 PM
Jun 2014

sides of his face connected. He is the master of hot air. When he finally got back to US soil the first thing I remember about him is he left his wife, divorced her and decided he would marry again for money--and he did.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
8. Medical bills
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 01:44 PM
Jun 2014

His first wife had been in a bad car accident, leaving her needing crutches. In order to keep him from worrying (as if he would!) she did not tell him. Nancy Reagan and some politicians paid her medical bills, when little Johnny left her. None of them ever had any respect for him after that., Nancy loathed him. He is not an honorable man, he is a toad. His daughter, Meghan, wrote a book about him "My Dad" and did not even mention his first wife, as if she never existed!!He used his connections to keep his second wife out of prison for stealing medications from a charity she ran. He should do the country the best service EVER, and resign.

asjr

(10,479 posts)
10. I can't name one thing he has done for our country since
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 04:50 PM
Jun 2014

he has been in office. Of course he is not the only member in the do-nothing party so he has some other buddies to lean on.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
13. Snopes does NOT refute the op
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 08:21 PM
Jun 2014

The op does Not refer to any 60 minutes interview or statement that McCain may have given after he returned home. It refers to a statement given by him while a Prisoner of War.

In fact,in explaining that he never made such statement of 60 minutes, Snopes explains that he was coerced by his captors.

The OP does not deny that these statements may have been made under duress. That is sort of the point.

The analogy being that when Bergdahl was in custody he may have made anti-American statements.

But your post, Snopes Says False, is notapplicable.


Refer to post #3, above.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
14. Did you read that article?
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 01:04 AM
Jun 2014

It actually quotes McCain as saying that he signed such a confession, under duress, which is the point. McCain is a total hypocrite now to speak in complete ignorance about what Bergdahl might have said while captive and under duress.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Anti American statements ...