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CaliforniaPeggy

(156,620 posts)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 09:15 PM Jun 2014

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Have a safe trip home! Ilsa Jun 2014 #1
Thanks, my dear Ilsa! CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2014 #2
+1 OrwellwasRight Jun 2014 #3
You're a wonderful friend to have, Peggy. frogmarch Jun 2014 #4
Thank you so much, my dear frogmarch... CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2014 #5
+1,000 malaise Jun 2014 #6
... CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2014 #7
k&r... beauty abounds.... spanone Jun 2014 #8
Peggy you are an angel nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #9
Ditto that for me, too! n/t Hepburn Jun 2014 #41
Let's never forget. DUers take care of each other. longship Jun 2014 #10
That's really sweet of you. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #11
For the DUgooder you are Omaha Steve Jun 2014 #12
Aw...my dear Omaha Steve... CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2014 #20
Thank you, Peggy. NCarolinawoman Jun 2014 #13
Thank You Peggy !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #14
So cool that you did that! calimary Jun 2014 #15
You're very special CP. defacto7 Jun 2014 #16
Thank you, my dear defacto7... CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2014 #17
Peggy, I'm so glad you got to go, and I'm sure... kag Jun 2014 #18
An angel on earth you are, Peggy. HCE SuiGeneris Jun 2014 #19
that's a beautiful picture. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2014 #21
Such a beautiful picture... retrogal Jun 2014 #22
k&r Liberal_in_LA Jun 2014 #23
Blessings and safe journey to you all, Peggy Hekate Jun 2014 #24
Wow... SoapBox Jun 2014 #25
You're a beautiful person, CaliforniaPeggy! countryjake Jun 2014 #26
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #27
Kick for kindness. riqster Jun 2014 #28
Thank you, Peggy. gademocrat7 Jun 2014 #29
Heartwarming. Thank you. spooky3 Jun 2014 #30
There are GOOD people here, but your name might well top the list. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #31
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2014 #32
Thank you, everybody, for your loving and tender replies... CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2014 #33
good morning, peggy. thank you so much for being the wonderful, kind, caring person niyad Jun 2014 #34
You look very much like someone at my local Trader Joe's. Any relatives in St. Louis? randome Jun 2014 #35
Not as far as I know, my dear randome! CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2014 #36
Great picture. Thanks for sharing. Thanks for you kindness. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #37
Wonderful picture. The best to you both. LoisB Jun 2014 #38
Appreciating both of you dear people. blm Jun 2014 #39
Safe travels PumpkinAle Jun 2014 #40
I've tried to keep my thoughts to myself on what I see here, CP.... BeachBaby Jun 2014 #42
Don't you think CP got the patient's permission senseandsensibility Jun 2014 #43
It all could have been handled privately - especially the pictures of a dying man. helderheid Jun 2014 #45
You recall correctly, Lionel Mandrake Jun 2014 #46
His wife doesn't mind? XemaSab Jun 2014 #47
Far from it. Lionel Mandrake Jun 2014 #50
Ghoulish. helderheid Jun 2014 #48
This helderheid Jun 2014 #44
The picture is rather strange. Jesus Malverde Jun 2014 #51
Truth? Whoa_Nelly Jun 2014 #49
0. Today I went home to California, but not before we got a picture of the two of us... CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2014 #52

Ilsa

(64,371 posts)
1. Have a safe trip home!
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 09:20 PM
Jun 2014

So wonderful of you to visit our guy and keep us posted. Blessings to all of you!

CaliforniaPeggy

(156,620 posts)
2. Thanks, my dear Ilsa!
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 09:21 PM
Jun 2014

I am home already...

Got in about 3:45 PM local time.

It feels good to be home.

But it was a great trip, and I'm so glad I went.

OrwellwasRight

(5,312 posts)
3. +1
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 09:22 PM
Jun 2014

frogmarch

(12,251 posts)
4. You're a wonderful friend to have, Peggy.
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 09:53 PM
Jun 2014

Everyone should be so lucky to have a friend like you.

Have a safe and pleasant trip home!

CaliforniaPeggy

(156,620 posts)
5. Thank you so much, my dear frogmarch...
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 09:55 PM
Jun 2014

I appreciate your kind words so much!

And I am already home...got home late this afternoon.

It's good to be here.

malaise

(296,114 posts)
6. +1,000
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 09:55 PM
Jun 2014

Thanks my dear California Peggy

CaliforniaPeggy

(156,620 posts)
7. ...
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 09:56 PM
Jun 2014

spanone

(141,616 posts)
8. k&r... beauty abounds....
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 09:57 PM
Jun 2014
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
9. Peggy you are an angel
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 09:59 PM
Jun 2014

I mean it

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
41. Ditto that for me, too! n/t
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 04:11 PM
Jun 2014

longship

(40,416 posts)
10. Let's never forget. DUers take care of each other.
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 10:02 PM
Jun 2014

Thank you, CaliforniaPeggy, for your dedication to the cause, and for showing all of us what DU is all about... in so many ways.


 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
11. That's really sweet of you.
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 10:06 PM
Jun 2014

Omaha Steve

(109,229 posts)
12. For the DUgooder you are
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 10:07 PM
Jun 2014

K&R.



CaliforniaPeggy

(156,620 posts)
20. Aw...my dear Omaha Steve...
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 11:33 PM
Jun 2014

I'd forgotten that song, and listening to it just made me cry and feel happy all at the same time!

Thank you...

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
13. Thank you, Peggy.
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 10:08 PM
Jun 2014

Thank you.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
14. Thank You Peggy !!! - K & R !!!
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 10:23 PM
Jun 2014



calimary

(90,021 posts)
15. So cool that you did that!
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 10:24 PM
Jun 2014

You really are a great friend!

defacto7

(14,162 posts)
16. You're very special CP.
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 10:34 PM
Jun 2014

My prayer to humanity this evening is that we all could have your generosity.

CaliforniaPeggy

(156,620 posts)
17. Thank you, my dear defacto7...
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 10:41 PM
Jun 2014

I really feel that the reason I am so generous is because of love.

When you truly love someone, you respect them and then there are no barriers (or very few) to what you are willing to do.

kag

(4,197 posts)
18. Peggy, I'm so glad you got to go, and I'm sure...
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 11:25 PM
Jun 2014

that you provided WCGreen some much-needed sunshine and distraction. What a generous gesture to make that trip, but I would expect nothing less from you, CP, who seem to have a place in your very big heart for all of us.

HCE SuiGeneris

(14,997 posts)
19. An angel on earth you are, Peggy.
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 11:25 PM
Jun 2014

So lucky to know you... even at an 'online' distance.

Be well.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
21. that's a beautiful picture.
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 11:34 PM
Jun 2014

He must be a very cool guy to have become close friends with you through the innertooobz.


my wish is that everyone could have a friend like you.

I'll do my best to follow your example! (be what you admire in others, right? Right!!)

retrogal

(65 posts)
22. Such a beautiful picture...
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 11:38 PM
Jun 2014

You are a special person Peggy!

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
23. k&r
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:09 AM
Jun 2014

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
24. Blessings and safe journey to you all, Peggy
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:14 AM
Jun 2014

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
25. Wow...
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:16 AM
Jun 2014

Not only for being a good soul but now we have faces to go with the faceless, cold internet!

Wowsa!

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
26. You're a beautiful person, CaliforniaPeggy!
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 02:46 AM
Jun 2014

Inside and out!

Thanks for sharing with us all.

Uncle Joe

(65,136 posts)
27. Kicked and recommended.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 03:41 AM
Jun 2014

Thanks for the update, CaliforniaPeggy.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
28. Kick for kindness.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 07:55 AM
Jun 2014

gademocrat7

(11,940 posts)
29. Thank you, Peggy.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 07:59 AM
Jun 2014

You are a truly compassionate and caring person.

spooky3

(38,634 posts)
30. Heartwarming. Thank you.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 08:22 AM
Jun 2014
 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
31. There are GOOD people here, but your name might well top the list. nt
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 08:57 AM
Jun 2014

Solly Mack

(96,943 posts)
32. K&R
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:22 AM
Jun 2014

(((to you both)))

CaliforniaPeggy

(156,620 posts)
33. Thank you, everybody, for your loving and tender replies...
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:50 AM
Jun 2014

It was such a great week, and I'm so glad I went.

My memories will sustain me now.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
34. good morning, peggy. thank you so much for being the wonderful, kind, caring person
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:15 PM
Jun 2014

you are. and thank you for keeping us updated on chris. get some rest now.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
35. You look very much like someone at my local Trader Joe's. Any relatives in St. Louis?
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:17 PM
Jun 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
[/center][/font][hr]

CaliforniaPeggy

(156,620 posts)
36. Not as far as I know, my dear randome!
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:49 PM
Jun 2014

Of course, you know what they say........we're all related!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
37. Great picture. Thanks for sharing. Thanks for you kindness. nm
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 01:40 PM
Jun 2014

LoisB

(13,028 posts)
38. Wonderful picture. The best to you both.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 02:26 PM
Jun 2014

blm

(114,658 posts)
39. Appreciating both of you dear people.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 03:06 PM
Jun 2014

(( ))

PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
40. Safe travels
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 03:29 PM
Jun 2014

and hugs and thank you for being such a good friend to Chris and all of us on DU.

BeachBaby

(8,431 posts)
42. I've tried to keep my thoughts to myself on what I see here, CP....
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 09:35 PM
Jun 2014

but I can't.

I have worked in home healthcare, and hospice, for almost four years now. I'm trying to remember how many people have passed away, on my watch. I believe that there have been nine, now.

None - NOT ONE - has been a big party. Granted, people came and went, saying goodbyes, and sometimes having a few laughs to make the patient feel better - but, there were never cameras around. There wasn't the posing for photos of the happy, smiling person, next to the person who is mentally dealing with the reality that each breath could be their last. What the hell is there to be happy about? There is no happiness in the death of a person who lost a fight, and is dying, way too young.

I have been friends with Chris on Facebook, for several years. He included me with several other of his FB friends, in a group that apprised us of any of his update blog/notes on his physical health. None of his notes were filled with happiness. He was fighting the fight of his life, and we all watched, fingers crossed.

It seems that he is losing his battle, and honestly? It sickens me to see him, in this condition, broadcast on the internet for the world to see. His last moments are to be as peaceful, as comfortable, as PRIVATE, as possible. What you did, here, is against EVERYTHING I was taught in hospice care.

You could have easily posted about your visit with Chris, without the photos; but, you chose to sensationalize his illness and impending death with photographic evidence. It's cruel, it's unfeeling, it's lacking empathy.....it's SICK.

His wife is a gem for putting up with any of this. I don't believe in a god, or in sainthood, for that matter - but, if it does exist, she should be canonized for tolerating such madness.

Love to Chris.



senseandsensibility

(24,974 posts)
43. Don't you think CP got the patient's permission
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 09:42 PM
Jun 2014

before posting pics, and talked to him about how he felt about it? If I recall correctly, she is a former nurse herself. The points you made could have been raised in a PM.

helderheid

(38,039 posts)
45. It all could have been handled privately - especially the pictures of a dying man.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 09:59 PM
Jun 2014

Instead his last moments are plastered across the internet for all to see.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,209 posts)
46. You recall correctly,
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 12:17 AM
Jun 2014

and yes, the pictures are okay with Chris. Since he doesn't mind, neither should anyone else.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
47. His wife doesn't mind?
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 01:02 AM
Jun 2014

Lionel Mandrake

(4,209 posts)
50. Far from it.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 01:32 AM
Jun 2014

She and Chris both approve of the pictures.

helderheid

(38,039 posts)
48. Ghoulish.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 01:11 AM
Jun 2014

helderheid

(38,039 posts)
44. This
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 09:47 PM
Jun 2014

A thousand times, this.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
51. The picture is rather strange.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 01:55 AM
Jun 2014

I don't think any of us would want to be plastered on the internet in our most vulnerable moments. Especially considering the vitriol spewed at DUers from other sites.

The contrasts in expressions speaks to me about the dynamic at work. A pained expression contrasted by exuberant familiarity.

Seems like if he had wanted to post a picture like that, he would have done it himself.

I find some of the laudatory replies towards the OP equally as strange.

This seems less about the sick man and more about the healthy smiling woman.

While strange, it's not surprising in this "look at me" social media era.



Sometimes the most powerful actions are done anonymously, quietly and in tune with the moment.

Whoa_Nelly

(21,237 posts)
49. Truth?
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 01:31 AM
Jun 2014

For those who do know Peggy's real relationship with Chris, she made damn sure she took the spotlight, all but said that he is her star-crossed lover, and most egregiously, stole his dignity as he lies dying.
Yeah, she "shared" her visit with DU, but it was more about her, than Chris.

One of my dear friends died recently, and I went to help take care of him as he suffered through his last days, cancer robbing him of the longer life he hoped to have. He asked for pictures of family and friends to be taken with him as he lay dying. I obliged him because he asked. Yet, I would not dream of posting those anywhere, and am keeping them until someday, if it happens at all, that his grieving wife (yeah..a real wife) asks for them. Until then, I gave him the moment he wanted in being with his friends one last time.

“Where is there dignity unless there is honesty?” ~ Cicero

Honesty is something Peggy will never understand, much less, dignity.

I wish Chris a gentle time now and through whatever it is one passes through onto that next plane.

CaliforniaPeggy

(156,620 posts)
52. 0. Today I went home to California, but not before we got a picture of the two of us...
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 02:17 AM
Jun 2014
I just talked to his nurse tonight, and Chris had a quiet, good day where he slept a lot. He was in a good mood when I was there this morning before I caught my flight...








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