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(9,933 posts)Rod Beauvex
(564 posts)Evey time I think he's finally getting reality figured out, he does something like this.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)SidDithers
(44,333 posts)What, Scott Stantis not drawing anything sufficiently right-wing today?
Sid
WillyT
(72,631 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)Either that, or you need new glasses.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)to a moron like Bill O'Reilly? Why would any Democrat care what that idiot thinks of them? Yet, there is Obama so ashamed to be called a Liberal by O'Reilly.
Wow!
Um, is there some other link you have to Obama on Fox trying to convince O'Reilly that he's not a Liberal?
How sad, I would have agreed with O'Reilly and insisted I am even more left than he thought already and to 'watch me' work to increase Social Programs.
O'Reilly had him on the defensive on something he should have been able to use to wipe the floor with that ignorant jerk. Instead he's practically pleading with him to please believe him, he's NOT 'that' Liberal.
Pretty damn sad, I agree with you. Fox and O'Reilly!
Sid
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Thank for your contribution.
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)the Youtube channel you're linking to is all right-wing, anti-Obama stuff from Fox News.
How hard can it be to not use right-wing sources to criticize Obama?
Sid
WillyT
(72,631 posts)There are times... many times.. when a leftwing site, uses the material of a rightwing site to make a political point.
Are ya with me so far ???
Jon Stewart does it.
Stephen Colbert does it.
John Olbver does it.
Crooks & Liars does it.
Raw Story does it.
DailyKos does it.
TPM does it.
And DU does it.
Deal with it.
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Sid
WillyT
(72,631 posts)And You ???
What's your purpose here ???
neverforget
(9,513 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)I'm curious, always! Did you realize when you posted it how funny that was?
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Sid
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Omg, I was:
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)to go along with all their other anti-Obama clips.
And Willy just happened to get that one and bring it to DU.
The Youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/mauriedee/videos?shelf_id=1&sort=dd&view=0
Sid
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)If you have a beef about Fox and their hateful Obama rhetoric, I agree with you. Which is why I would never go near them.
So why are you yelling at ME? I am not the one who gave the 'owner of the Fox Channel' the ammunition to post anything about the president.
And clip or not, are you saying Obama didn't say to O'Reilly what we heard him say?
Talk to the WH about it, THEY made this decision, no me and not willy. It was a terrible decision, too bad Obama doesn't talk more to Liberals, but he seems to care so much what Republicans think of him, not so much what Liberals think of him.
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)I never said anything about the owner of the Fox Channel.
Sid
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)been selective in the part of the interview he posted. Go back and read your own posts.
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)you go back and read my post.
Sid
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)like O'Reilly? Eg, when they used 'Liberal' to try to insult Kennedy, he EMBRACED it and stated proudly that he was a Liberal. Why is Obama trying to win the approval of morons like O'Reilly? I don't get it!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)eg. The President isn't obliged to do something simply because this is 'how it's always done'.
And 'getting through the interview' could have been accomplished much more effectively by simply stating, Bill, I am a Proud Liberal, like our Founding Fathers whose ideas and courage made it possible for you to have free speech regarding Politics, express your opinions, no matter how dumb, without the government knocking on your door. Well so long as you're not a member of OWS.
Is there something shameful about being a Liberal, and how would 'getting through the intervew' prevent him from making that simply statement, 'why yes, you are right Bill, I am a proud Liberal, like John Kennedy, among other great historical figures. Very proud. Btw, did you have a point, I don't want to miss it if you did.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)If he didn't go he would have caused himself more issues.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)oiy oiy oiy
Must be slim pickens on the President lately if this is blockbusting news.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Now they can criticize his answers and I have no problem witb that.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)There are things we all have to do sometime, even though it's not fun.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,570 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)viewers on why he is proud to be a Liberal. Was something preventing him from boasting about being a Democrat who believes in the same Liberal principles that Kennedy spoke about in HIS famous 'I am a Liberal' speech?
He has nothing to lose by showing pride in being a Liberal. By now it should be obvious that no matter how he tries to please Republicans they are going hate him anyhow. I would have been prepared for O'Reilly's taunting, but that's me. I would educated him and his audience on how wrong their policies are.
So would LBJ, Kennedy and I doubt Carter would make any excuses for being a Democrat. What would happen, they would still hate him, as they hate all Democrats. So, as I said, nothing to lose by putting them in their place.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)That is the excuse of a five year old. He did not have to do this interview. He did not have to claim he wasn't as liberal as the crazy gullible 70+ year old viewers of FOX news believe.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)If he didn't do it then it would have created more problems. He is oresident of the United States so he can handle fox.
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)All right-wing tripe, anti-Obama clips from Fox News.
But apparently that type of thing is what "progressives" are using to criticize Obama these days.
Sid
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)and O'Reilly provided in the OP?
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Sid
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Obama that is.
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)and conducts a 10 minute interview.
Some right-wing Youtuber, with hundreds anti-Obama clips from Fox News, picks a particular 1:47 from that 10 minute interview and posts it along with all their other anti-Obama shit.
And that's the clip that Willy brings to DU.
Sid
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)He could have led the way to changing that 'tradition'. And it isn't a tradition for Democrats to be ashamed of being Liberals when attacked by Bill O'Reilly.
I remember Kerry not showing up for an interview with O'Reilly I believe he had enough of their garbage and wanted to make the point that they were NOT A LEGITIMATE NEWS Org. O'Reilly was stunned and had to search around for someone to take Kerry's place, he found someone, McAullif, who was late, so O'Reilly was left talking to himself. Many thought Kerry could not just not show up, it wasn't done!! Well, it WAS and a beautiful thing to watch.
So no, he did NOT have to go that illegitimate, pretend 'news' organization. Someone desperately needs to take a stand against them. And this would have been a great time to do it.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)holy shit
JI7
(93,616 posts)winger ?
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)on Fox, good for him.
Any Democrat who appears on Fox should be making it clear why they are proud to be a Democrat and certainly not be trying to distance themselves from Liberals. If Kucinich is making excuses on Fox for being Liberal, then shame on him too.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)extremely icky. Very sad.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)But the president could have been more forceful with him.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)disappearing
disappearing
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Nixon's term saw the birth of the EPA(Environmental Protection Agency), he is well left of Obama on this one.
Nixon also approved the ERA(Equal Rights Amendment), started ending the draft(replacing it with an all volunteer force), started the process of ending the Cold War, recognized and fought against foreign oil price gouging, and even used a decent method of diplomacy with China to reduce tensions.
I don't like Nixon, but Obama is to the right of him, which to me has always been an indication of the sad state of affairs.
Nixon nowadays would not be able to run in the current Republican party.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Even Reagan acknowledged that Social Security is not tied to the deficit, while Obama has made comments entrenching that poisonous lie, repeatedly.
Social Security has nothing to do with the deficit. Social Security is totally funded by the payroll tax levied on employer and employee. If you reduce the outgo of Social Security, that money would not go into the general fund to reduce the deficit. It would go into the Social Security Trust Fund. So Social Security has nothing to do with balancing a budget or erasing or growing the deficit.
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Xyzse
(8,217 posts)It is why he has always been at the bottom of my list during the primaries. He still is, even if I voted Obama to go against the Republican twice.
It is frustrating, but really, he is the reason I have become quite a bit less enthused about politics, since it really is dispiriting.
Saying that, I will still help out on the mid-term elections, and VA is where I am volunteering rather than MD where I live, which is pretty much safe.
factsarenotfair
(910 posts)It will only disturb Democratic voters and dampen the turnout.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Bobbie Jo
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DesMoinesDem
(1,569 posts)LOL. I can't think of a dumber attack to distract from Obama's answer than that. That's pathetic even for the BOG.