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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDave Brat’s “Huge” win was not based on his message..
of locking up Wall Street Crooks and Banksters. Most of the electorate who voted for Brat think most of the crooks on Wall Street and who run banks are Jews.. This is why they applauded his comments on these issues... Let me clue you in...Most of Brats base are the worst kind of racist, homophobic, xenophobics there are.
They have no clue that the economic melt down had anything to do with elected Republicans and their drive to deregulate everything including the Derivative market which essentially destroyed our economy....
So those who feel that Dave Brats constituents are concerned with economic fairness and that if a Dem. Candidate runs on these issues in Red/Blue states he/she will fair better.. I say Bullshit!!!..
Dave Brats base and other Tea Bagger Candidates will rally their base on their premise that our President is a Muslim Dictator and and that our banks are run by European Jews..
These people are so freaking hateful and stupid, we can only hope that their numbers will quickly die off....You know what I mean!!
warrior1
(12,325 posts)anyone but cantor
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)And he was very much responsible for the republican agenda to destroy Obamas Presidency.
So when yo say anyone...that anyone better be a proud racist..who stands for letting that Restaurant owner to decide for himself wether or not to serve Blacks..
MADem
(135,425 posts)I think the unifying feature amongst the majority of the electorate in that district was a hatred of the incumbent.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)That Cantor did not spew hatred well enough..
MADem
(135,425 posts)I had heard that he got help from people who had no love for him, but I will admit I didn't have my nose to the ground in terms of following that race--I believed the bullshit polls; the most negative one I saw had him up by nine or ten, and of course, he had himself cruising to victory up by more than thirty!
former9thward
(32,077 posts)1) Crossover attempts rarely work and 2) they have to be organized. Democrats did not even pay attention to that race until Tuesday night.
Little evidence for widespread Democratic cross over voting to oppose Cantor in GOP primary
Vote counts show turnout did not spike higher in more Democratic-voting counties, and Cantor lost most support in Republican strongholds.
Likewise, Cantor saw the biggest drop-off in support in Republican strongholds of Hanover (-44 percentage points) and New Kent (-44 points), counties where Obama drew just over 30 percent of the vote in 2012. In Henrico County where Obama won 55 percent support, Cantor's drop-off was a smaller 32 points. The overall correlation between Obama's county support and Cantor's drop-off was clearly negative at -.60, indicating that the higher Obama's 2012 support, the lower Republican primary turnout rose this year. This is consistent with the idea that Republicans largely drove the rise in turnout.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/06/11/did-democratic-votes-doom-eric-cantor/
MADem
(135,425 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts).... that immigration and Obamacare were low on voters priority list, as was economic fairness. Not enough Dems voted to flip election. The #1 %reason voters reported for voting Cantor out was that he was too busy playing national politics and ignored his constituents. Pretty simple and basic. Sorry, don't have the link, but I saw it on DU. Perhaps someone will add it.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)felt he was too busy appeasing President Obama.. If Cantor lead an impeachment drive against the President he would have won this election..hands down,,
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)And that would indicate Cantor caring more about national politics than his local constituents. I think the voters just felt Cantor no longer represented them well.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)This was pure right wing Tea Bagger win... Period..
Quixote1818
(28,968 posts)Warpy
(111,339 posts)Cantor not only spent his career stiffing women and children, he also stiffed his home district after the earthquake there caused considerable damage.
The populist, anti banker, anti Wall Street message did resonate with some voters. Most of them threw Cantor out because he'd been stingy with his home district.
Hatred of people, Jews included, is very selective in the south. If what you are saying was the least bit true, he'd never have gotten a single term in the House.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)You know the one Brat represents??? I would say 85% stereotype Jews as Bankers who control the wealth in this country.
Stiffing men and women like Tea Baggers have humanitarian interests..
Tell me... What % of the the total vote received by Brat was casted by Tea Bagger Republicans.?
Your last statement? The people who originally voted Cantor in.. stayed home...
Warpy
(111,339 posts)It didn't matter that he had become such a popular teabagger. Once he'd kicked the district's dust off his shoes the day after an election, he never considered them, at all.
I think the quake aftermath is what killed him.
Unless you've lived in the south, you don't realize how selective the regional hatreds are. KKK members often know a few black people and like them. It's just the aggregate of people they don't know that they want to keep down. It's the reason for "Some of my best friends are ___."
That statement is the truth. Individuals are given a pass by people they know.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Given a pass by people we they know in my opinion is the perfect Racist Excuse...
Listen, just because you marry a Black does not mean you are not a racist...
As a matter of fact, Ill give you my opinion as what defines a racist..
Walking along a night alone with someone you love and walking towards you are a group of young Black Men wearing hoodies doing nothing but walking towards you on their half of the sidewalk.
Not thinking anything about, danger looming in my opinion, is a definition of a person who is not a racist.. In the current U.S. using this criteria means it is almost impossible for a white person not to be a racist.. Including me. Thanks to MSMedia.. Bleeds it leads..
There are various degrees of racism and I think Southern right wing tea baggers are among that type that are the worst.... Plenty in the north as well..
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)"All politics is local" is an old saying. No matter that Cantor was an original teabagger, no matter that he blocked every Obama initiative, it all came down to his losing touch with the folks back home who voted him in to represent them. So they voted him out, plain and simple. I doubt the voters paid a bit of attention to Brat's message... he had an R next to his name and wasn't Cantor. Good enough. And if he doesn't represent his district well, they'll boot him out too.
MADem
(135,425 posts)And apparently twenty percent of voters are African American. With enough motivation, there could be a surprise:
Thats reason enough that African-American voters in Virginias 7th Congressional District should and can try to win that seat back for Democrats.
Black voters are the decisive key to a general election upset thats as tectonic-plate-shifting as Brats primary sucker punch. At the moment, though, the Dems seem satisfied to gleefully stomp on Cantors political grave. Stuck on conventional wisdom thats similar to those establishment Republican rivals who got punked by Brat, Democratic strategists have already resigned Virginias 7th to its red-state faithful.
That would be a mistake, though, and a nasty face palm to a rather robust black Virginia electorate. While its overwhelmingly white, Cantors district is also nearly 20 percent black, according to Census Bureau datain line with Virginias overall population. The states changing fast, and its creating all sorts of creative voting blocs of colora major reason President Barack Obama won it in 2008 and 2012.
It depends now on what Democrats do and the appeal of Democratic nominee Jack Trammellwho, like Brat, is a Randolph-Macon College professor. You can laugh; did you laugh when a black man with the middle name Hussein ran for president six years ago?
Its not like Cantors seat was all that locked up for Republicans: the majority leader went from garnering 76 percent of the vote in 2004 to snagging only 58 percent in 2012. And while the district has been reliably red since 1996, it leaned blue enough to vote for current Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) in 2008.
http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2014/06/black_voters_and_democrats_shouldn_t_give_dave_brat_a_pass.html?wpisrc=burger
Sometimes the conventional wisdom doesn't carry through. Time will tell--time, and organization. Someone should get ahold of Trammell, clean him up a bit, hone his message and teach him how to give a non-responsive response when he doesn't know the answer.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Snarkoleptic
(6,001 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Iggo
(47,565 posts)You're looking at it wrong.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)going after bankers and wall street.. It wasnt... it was because Cantor was not extreme enough..
Thanks.