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Sat Jun 14, 2014, 09:59 AM

Dave Brat’s “Huge” win was not based on his message..

of “locking up Wall Street Crooks and Banksters. Most of the electorate who voted for Brat think most of the crooks on Wall Street and who run banks are Jews.. This is why they applauded his comments on these issues... Let me clue you in...Most of Brat’s base are the worst kind of racist, homophobic, xenophobic’s there are.

They have no clue that the economic melt down had anything to do with elected Republican’s and their drive to deregulate everything including the Derivative market which essentially destroyed our economy....

So those who feel that Dave Brat’s constituents are concerned with economic fairness and that if a Dem. Candidate runs on these issues in Red/Blue states he/she will fair better.. I say Bullshit!!!..

Dave Brat’s base and other Tea Bagger Candidates will rally their base on their premise that our President is a Muslim Dictator and and that our banks are run by European Jews..

These people are so freaking hateful and stupid, we can only hope that their numbers will quickly die off....You know what I mean!!

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Reply Dave Brat’s “Huge” win was not based on his message.. (Original post)
busterbrown Jun 2014 OP
warrior1 Jun 2014 #1
busterbrown Jun 2014 #3
MADem Jun 2014 #2
busterbrown Jun 2014 #4
MADem Jun 2014 #6
former9thward Jun 2014 #16
MADem Jun 2014 #18
HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #5
busterbrown Jun 2014 #7
HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #8
busterbrown Jun 2014 #12
Quixote1818 Jun 2014 #9
Warpy Jun 2014 #10
busterbrown Jun 2014 #11
Warpy Jun 2014 #13
busterbrown Jun 2014 #14
HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #15
MADem Jun 2014 #19
joshcryer Jun 2014 #17
Snarkoleptic Jun 2014 #20
busterbrown Jun 2014 #21
Iggo Jun 2014 #22
busterbrown Jun 2014 #23
Iggo Jun 2014 #24

Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:03 AM

1. They voted for ABC

anyone but cantor

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Response to warrior1 (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:12 AM

3. Yea.. because Cantor unwillingly shook hands with Obama.. A few times..

And he was very much responsible for the republican agenda to destroy Obama’s Presidency.

So when yo say anyone...that anyone better be a proud racist..who stands for letting that Restaurant owner to decide for himself wether or not to serve Blacks..

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:10 AM

2. Have they done any reporting on the crossover vote?

I think the unifying feature amongst the majority of the electorate in that district was a hatred of the incumbent.

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Response to MADem (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:15 AM

4. Their hatred of Cantor was based on the facts ...

That Cantor did not spew hatred well enough..

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #4)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:31 AM

6. Really? There was no help from the Democratic "spoiler/crossover" contingent?

I had heard that he got help from people who had no love for him, but I will admit I didn't have my nose to the ground in terms of following that race--I believed the bullshit polls; the most negative one I saw had him up by nine or ten, and of course, he had himself cruising to victory up by more than thirty!

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Response to MADem (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 03:13 PM

16. There apparently was no significant crossover.

1) Crossover attempts rarely work and 2) they have to be organized. Democrats did not even pay attention to that race until Tuesday night.

Little evidence for widespread Democratic cross over voting to oppose Cantor in GOP primary
Vote counts show turnout did not spike higher in more Democratic-voting counties, and Cantor lost most support in Republican strongholds.

Likewise, Cantor saw the biggest drop-off in support in Republican strongholds of Hanover (-44 percentage points) and New Kent (-44 points), counties where Obama drew just over 30 percent of the vote in 2012. In Henrico County where Obama won 55 percent support, Cantor's drop-off was a smaller 32 points. The overall correlation between Obama's county support and Cantor's drop-off was clearly negative at -.60, indicating that the higher Obama's 2012 support, the lower Republican primary turnout rose this year. This is consistent with the idea that Republicans largely drove the rise in turnout.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/06/11/did-democratic-votes-doom-eric-cantor/

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Response to former9thward (Reply #16)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:20 PM

18. I read there was a down low whisper campaign.... nt

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:29 AM

5. FWIW, after the election a RW pollster reported....

 

.... that immigration and Obamacare were low on voters priority list, as was economic fairness. Not enough Dems voted to flip election. The #1 %reason voters reported for voting Cantor out was that he was too busy playing national politics and ignored his constituents. Pretty simple and basic. Sorry, don't have the link, but I saw it on DU. Perhaps someone will add it.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:37 AM

7. Exactly and those who voted for Brat..

felt he was too busy appeasing President Obama.. If Cantor lead an impeachment drive against the President he would have won this election..hands down,,

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #7)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:00 AM

8. I don't recall impeachment being mentioned in the poll.

 

And that would indicate Cantor caring more about national politics than his local constituents. I think the voters just felt Cantor no longer represented them well.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 01:10 PM

12. You must be kidding ??

This was pure right wing Tea Bagger win... Period..

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:04 AM

9. I agree. nt

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:18 AM

10. Bullshit, they voted for him because he's not Cantor.

Cantor not only spent his career stiffing women and children, he also stiffed his home district after the earthquake there caused considerable damage.

The populist, anti banker, anti Wall Street message did resonate with some voters. Most of them threw Cantor out because he'd been stingy with his home district.

Hatred of people, Jews included, is very selective in the south. If what you are saying was the least bit true, he'd never have gotten a single term in the House.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 01:08 PM

11. Selective??? The Far Right Tea Bagger Party

You know the one Brat represents??? I would say 85% stereotype Jews as Bankers who control the wealth in this country.

“Stiffing men and women” like Tea Baggers have humanitarian interests..

Tell me... What % of the the total vote received by Brat was casted by Tea Bagger Republicans.?

Your last statement? The people who originally voted Cantor in.. stayed home...

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #11)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 01:52 PM

13. I agree with your last sentence. They didn't want Cantor.

It didn't matter that he had become such a popular teabagger. Once he'd kicked the district's dust off his shoes the day after an election, he never considered them, at all.

I think the quake aftermath is what killed him.

Unless you've lived in the south, you don't realize how selective the regional hatreds are. KKK members often know a few black people and like them. It's just the aggregate of people they don't know that they want to keep down. It's the reason for "Some of my best friends are ___."
That statement is the truth. Individuals are given a pass by people they know.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #13)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 02:31 PM

14. thanks for the explanation....

“Given a pass by people we they know” in my opinion is the perfect Racist Excuse...

Listen, just because you marry a Black does not mean you are not a racist...

As a matter of fact, I’ll give you my opinion as what defines a racist..

Walking along a night alone with someone you love and walking towards you are a group of young Black Men wearing hoodies doing nothing but walking towards you on their half of the sidewalk.

Not thinking anything about, danger looming in my opinion, is a definition of a person who is not a racist.. In the current U.S. using this criteria means it is almost impossible for a white person not to be a racist.. Including me. Thanks to MSMedia.. Bleeds it leads..

There are various degrees of racism and I think Southern right wing tea baggers are among that type that are the worst.... Plenty in the north as well..

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Response to Warpy (Reply #13)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 03:04 PM

15. Agreed.

 

"All politics is local" is an old saying. No matter that Cantor was an original teabagger, no matter that he blocked every Obama initiative, it all came down to his losing touch with the folks back home who voted him in to represent them. So they voted him out, plain and simple. I doubt the voters paid a bit of attention to Brat's message... he had an R next to his name and wasn't Cantor. Good enough. And if he doesn't represent his district well, they'll boot him out too.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:27 PM

19. That district might be changing--they voted for MARK WARNER.

And apparently twenty percent of voters are African American. With enough motivation, there could be a surprise:

Translated for a state that was once the Confederate capital, states’ rights nostalgia equals Voter-ID restrictions; Judeo-Christian principles means Bible-thumping; and free market sounds like predatory lending and sticking it to the working and middle class.

That’s reason enough that African-American voters in Virginia’s 7th Congressional District should and can try to win that seat back for Democrats.

Black voters are the decisive key to a general election upset that’s as tectonic-plate-shifting as Brat’s primary sucker punch. At the moment, though, the Dems seem satisfied to gleefully stomp on Cantor’s political grave. Stuck on conventional wisdom that’s similar to those “establishment” Republican rivals who got punked by Brat, Democratic strategists have already resigned Virginia’s 7th to its red-state faithful.

That would be a mistake, though, and a nasty face palm to a rather robust black Virginia electorate. While it’s overwhelmingly white, Cantor’s district is also nearly 20 percent black, according to Census Bureau data—in line with Virginia’s overall population. The state’s changing fast, and it’s creating all sorts of creative voting blocs of color—a major reason President Barack Obama won it in 2008 and 2012.

It depends now on what Democrats do and the appeal of Democratic nominee Jack Trammell—who, like Brat, is a Randolph-Macon College professor. You can laugh; did you laugh when a black man with the middle name Hussein ran for president six years ago?

It’s not like Cantor’s seat was all that locked up for Republicans: the majority leader went from garnering 76 percent of the vote in 2004 to snagging only 58 percent in 2012. And while the district has been reliably red since 1996, it leaned blue enough to vote for current Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) in 2008.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2014/06/black_voters_and_democrats_shouldn_t_give_dave_brat_a_pass.html?wpisrc=burger


Sometimes the conventional wisdom doesn't carry through. Time will tell--time, and organization. Someone should get ahold of Trammell, clean him up a bit, hone his message and teach him how to give a non-responsive response when he doesn't know the answer.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 03:37 PM

17. Yep, the new fascist right.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:37 PM

20. Brat is a product of Koch Industries.

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Response to Snarkoleptic (Reply #20)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:43 PM

21. They especially love the fact that he understands the politics of FEAR-LYING..

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:47 PM

22. It's not Brat's huge win. It's Cantor's huge loss.

You're looking at it wrong.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #22)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 05:43 PM

23. Notice huge was in” quotes”... Many feel it was because Brat had a populists theme of

going after bankers and wall street.. It wasn’t... it was because Cantor was not extreme enough..

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #23)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 06:47 PM

24. Ah!

Thanks.

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