Yet Another Responsible Gun Owner Shoots His Own Penis

[Playinghardball]

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At least five American men have shot off their penises since 2010.

I keep hearing about these responsible gun owners who are so very careful with their dangerous weapons, so I can only conclude that this guy did it on purpose!

A man in Macon, Georgia accidentally shot himself in the penis while attempting to holster his gun last week.

According to WMAZ Channel 13, the man was parked at a gas station and was attempting to put away the .45 caliber pistol when it discharged, striking him in the groin. The man immediately drove to a friend’s house.

According to police, the victim dropped his pants to find that he had shot himself in the penis and that the bullet had exited his body through the buttocks. As he disrobed, the spent round fell to the floor.

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/06/yet-another-responsible-gun-owner-shoots

[warrior1]

1. How was he able to find his penis to shoot it.

[enid602]

10. not easy

He used a magnifying glass and tweezers.

[MohRokTah]

2. It just goes to show...

Every gun owner is responsible all the way up to the point when they aren't.

[Gravitycollapse]

8. That's a pretty useless tool of argumentation. Every person is responsible...

Up to the point that they are not. That is not a predictive tool but merely a statement of possibility.

I am not a deviation from the norm until the point that I deviate from the norm. What is important about this deviation is not that it denies the trend but establishes it.

[Eleanors38]

20. Gunbanner TalkingPoint™

[MohRokTah]

23. Gun humping reaction

[Katashi_itto]

24. +1000

[Eleanors38]

27. Sounds like you've been studying this too long.

[Gravitycollapse]

41. Honestly, though, your argument completely disavows statistics.

And it is really only through quantitative analysis that we are able to consider trends like the real dangers of owning firearms.

[MohRokTah]

43. No, it doesn't. It is 100% accurate in all cases.

One can be a responsible gun owner their entire lives and my statement is still 100% true.

One cannot be a responsible gun owner once one's life has ended.

Thus the statement, "all gun owners are responsible gun owners all the way up to the point where they aren't" still holds true, even for the person who was a responsible gun owner their entire life.

[Gravitycollapse]

48. Do you even comprehend the extent to which you have no idea what you're talking about?

"It is 100% accurate in all cases."

No one with even a cursory understanding of statistics would suggest that statistical trends don't matter because of the possibility that an unlikely scenario might happen. You are suggesting a deductive solution to a matter of inductive risk. That is the exact opposite of what it means to consider statistical probability. There Is no such thing as 100% certainty in statistics.

Thus, I could now suggest that you are not a murderer right up to the point that you murder someone and that would be a ridiculous claim because it presupposes an outcome to an event which has not happened yet. Statistics are predictors, not prophecy. And you are not a prophet.

So any claim that you can know a possible future is complete and total nonsense.

If you want to make an argument about the trend of responsibility among gun owners, you have to follow the rules of statistics. Otherwise, you just end up sounding utterly foolish and making the movement look bad.

[MohRokTah]

50. You may understand statistics, but you fail to understand simple language

Everybody is alive all the way up to the point when they aren't.

Simple. Language.

[Gravitycollapse]

56. Again, you do not know the future. You are not omniscient.

Therefore, the statement "you are alive up to the point that you are not" is an invalid argument. It presupposes the future. It says that your death is logically necessary. And, despite It being highly probable, death is not necessary.

I think you've confused "simple" with "correct."

[MohRokTah]

57. In this case I absolutely KNOW the future.

Everybody dies. Everybody reaches a point where they ARE NOT.

So, let's say you become a gun owner on your birthday at age 12.

And you are a responsible gun owner all the way up to the point when you die at 91.

You were a responsible gun owner all the way up to the point where you aren't.

Simple. Language.

And 100% accurate in ALL CASES.

The dead cannot own a gun, or anything else for that matter.

One CANNOT be a responsible gun owner when one IS NOT.

Death is the state of not being. When you are not, you cannot own anything.

[Gravitycollapse]

60. Utterly vacuous nonsense.

Non statements abound in your rhetoric. If you are attempting to say you know the future, you are a liar. If you are attempting to argue the simple logical chain that when A becomes B, it is no longer A, that is literally a statement which goes without saying. It is logically redundant. The information contained in the latter part exists plainly in the former.

[MohRokTah]

61. I see you're embarrassed because you do not understand simple language.

Please, read a book and get back to me,.

[Gravitycollapse]

72. I assume "simple language" is code for anti-intellectual sentiment.

The idea that "simple things" just make more sense than "complex things."

This is not a matter of simplicity. Whether an idea is simple or complex, it has little or nothing to do with whether or not it is logically consistent.

You, MohRokTah, cannot foresee the future. You can merely make a statement of likelihood based on past observation. Which is not prophecy; it is not saying This must happen and This mustn't happen. I say that again because I really don't think you get it.

So the idea you espouse that there is no such thing as a responsible gun owner, BECAUSE you can conceive a possible future where said gun owner acts irresponsibly, is a matter of illogic I suspect driven by the desire to unconditionally validate your personal opinion on the matter. That is a ridiculous belief to hold.

[MohRokTah]

89. Your make false assumptions.

Lern to read.

[oklahomalib]

63. Why are you arguing semantics

when it adds nothing of substance to this thread? It's a little like watching a couple of boys have a pissing contest and wondering who's going to be the first to shoot off his own penis.

[Katashi_itto]

25. At least we know more about the private lives of Ammosexuals.

[Eleanors38]

28. Haven't peered enough through "loop holes" to know.

[Crunchy Frog]

67. That's taking "intimacy" to a whole new level.

[In_The_Wind]

3. There is a safety on the gun. Too bad he didn't use it.

[bpj62]

4. Attempted Suicide

He was trying to shoot himself in the head. Thank you very much I will be all week.

[alittlelark]

64. DUzy !!

[Aristus]

5. Those of us who don't have a sick, twisted gun fetish can think of much

better ways to use our dicks than that...

Oh well, guys who can't get laid may as well shoot the damn thing off...

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. Did it spit at him? Was he "staniding his ground"?

[The Road Runner]

47. LOL...That was funny nt

[warrprayer]

7. Always happy to help

http://www.cafepress.com/+covert_comic_kevlar_testicle_protector,4508981

[NightWatcher]

9. why did he have a gun out at a gas station?

And what type of holster points the business end of a gun at the business end of your ...

The only thing worse than a bad guy with a gun is an incompetent gun owner.

[Gravitycollapse]

12. A concealed holster would potentially point the gun at your nether regions.

Depending on the placement of the holster which fits between the waist of your pants and body. Also, it could be that the motion of placing it in the holster aims the firearm at the groin.

[hedda_foil]

14. Add to that the fact that he was sitting in the car while trying to get the pistol in the holster.

[Ikonoklast]

81. Which begs the question:

Why did he have the pistol out of its holster to begin with?

Why?

He shouldn't unholster the weapon unless he was intending to use it.

[magical thyme]

11. Darwin award winners

all.

[KamaAina]

21. Correct.

The only requirement is that one remove oneself from the gene pool, whether through death or, ah, dismemberment.

[Crunchy Frog]

68. It would be nice to see a winner be able to receive the prize in person.

[valerief]

13. If only his penis had a gun. Gungeoneer logic. Oh, well, no great loss. nt

[Eleanors38]

22. Why are you fascinated with penis?

[valerief]

44. Title of OP. Buh-bye forever. nt

[Eleanors38]

46. Good.nt

[ipfilter]

15. Guns don't shoot penises, people shoot penises.

[alcibiades_mystery]

16. Pity

It's so few.

[uppityperson]

17. Ouch. 'the spent round fell to the floor" meaning the bullet or the penis?

[longship]

19. DUzy! nt

[Hekate]

18. "As he disrobed, the spent round fell to the floor." Is that what they call it now?

Did he feel the need for a cigarette after that?

[sarisataka]

26. Had the bullet gone 2 inches to either side

he would have hit his femoral artery and likely died.

Of course to many that would be positively hilarious-
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025058388

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. If...but that is not what happened.

[sarisataka]

36. If... is the main argument

and 'could happen' of many who favor the most draconian GC measures.

And when it did happen, look how many found joy/humor in a person's death. The same who otherwise claim any life lost to a gun is one too many...

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. Again, that is not what happened

And I see no joy, more like gallows humor.

[sarisataka]

39. One opinion

but if you read the thread, others saw both inappropriate joy and humor, not all who spoke against it being on the 'gunners' side.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. Well, as a medic I see the "humor" in it

But then again, when you see tragedy day after day...and as a nation that is what we are seeing: tragedy.

So the humor is truly dark.

And I must admit, the genital mutilation comment down thread is funny, in a dark way.

And I will slightly correct your anatomy. This guy was lucky to miss a few structures beyond just the femoral arteries. There is one major vessel in the Penis itself. That can also lead to exsanguination, though it takes longer than the femoral artery. It is it, and the spongy tissue that leads to Mr Happy standing at attention. There is also deep innervation that can lead to shock from pain. Depending on the damage made our friend might develop anywhere from a mild to a severe case of penile dysfunction.

This is why we were taught to treat these patients aggressively for shock.

[The Road Runner]

51. Oh come on...Lighten up.

It is always funny when a right wing gun nut shoots himself in the dick!

[Crunchy Frog]

70. So his penis saved his life. How many men can say that?

Lucky guy.

[arcane1]

29. So, he has to leave it lying around loose in his car?

I assume that's why he had to holster it before getting out of the vehicle. Seems like an accident waiting to happen.

[etherealtruth]

30. Gun accidents ARE gun violence

... it is NOT acceptable

[lpbk2713]

31. Needs to take lessons from Deputy Barney Fife.

... and carry his bullets in his shirt pocket.

Too late for that now though.

[Politicalboi]

32. Maybe now he should keep his

Penis in his shirt pocket.

[Zorra]

34. This seems to be the preferred method used for *Male Genital Mutilation* in the US these days. nt

[aikoaiko]

35. You've made the night of many an anti-Gunster. You know...

...those folks who claim to abhor injuries and deaths from misuse of guns.

[Crunchy Frog]

71. Well, at least if we had our way

He wouldn't have had the means to blow his dick off. We are not the ones who are perpetuating this state of affairs.

You won't laugh at it, but you will do everything in your power to ensure that it continues.

So which one of us is worse?

[Blue Owl]

37. Ouch, and right through the Joe the Plumber's crack

n/t

[nolabear]

42. He drove to a friend's house????

What, was it too embarrassing to call 911 and admit he'd had his gun out at the gas station? Was he planning to rob the place? What if it had hit the pump instead?

I mean, seriously, it went through his penis AND HIS ASS and he drove to a friend's house?

I don't know whether to or or just

[treestar]

53. And it reads as if he didn't realize it

How, on the drive to the friend's house, was he not in terrible pain?

[SDjack]

45. Guns don't shoot penises, penises shoot penises. nt

[betsuni]

49. But ... aren't we supposed to get our minds off of the penis?

DU was scolded about that yesterday. I'm trying to keep my minds off of the penis and you people keep bringing them up.

[BeyondGeography]

52. If he'd only been a responsible penis owner

[RKP5637]

54. No doubt, he felt threatened by his dick! n/t

[The Road Runner]

55. Maybe he was just trying to do this...

But something went wrong!

[BeyondGeography]

58. Oh man

Funnayyy.

[blue neen]

59. What is it a "Good Penis" or a "Bad Penis"?

If it was a "Good Penis", it was waving a "Don't Tread on Me Flag". If it was a "Bad Penis", it was wearing a hoodie.

[bettyellen]

62. I love a good penis thread.

[betsuni]

65. Stand Your Groind

[Crunchy Frog]

66. Now that's Darwin Prize worthy! n/t

[sakabatou]

73. Honorable mention, possibly

[kestrel91316]

69. This is the part of being in a free country I just love.

Jerks shooting their junk off. Yep. LOVE IT.

[Fearless]

74. Natural selection. n/t

[ucrdem]

75. Wait til he tries to fill 'er up without a dipstick

He's not going to get much mileage I'm afraid . . .

[Ed Suspicious]

76. Dick With a Gun Pulls Trigger on Penis. Headline material if I do say so myself.

[ucrdem]

77. Man shoots penis getting headline

old story

[Ed Suspicious]

78. Gunner Goes Off Half-Cocked?

[ucrdem]

80. Customer gets the shaft.

[Ed Suspicious]

82. That one hit below the belt.

[ucrdem]

83. Now he's really running on empty.

[Ed Suspicious]

85. I'm racking my brain, but I'm too tired to keep up.

Have a good night.

[ucrdem]

86. His engine misfired and now it won't start

Night and thanks!

[ucrdem]

79. Sometimes it's better not to pump your own.

I knew there was an instructive message in there!

[Arugula Latte]

84. That's too bad. I've heard that his penis was an upstanding member

of society.

[ucrdem]

87. And now he has a defective part.

[intaglio]

88. Obviously he is Dead-eye Dick n/t

[Autumn]

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