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Alex P Notkeaton

(309 posts)
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:01 PM Jun 2014

Actor Gary Oldman: “Mel Gibson is in a town that’s run by Jews”

Monday, Jun 23, 2014 04:26 PM EDT

Gary Oldman has broken his silence on political correctness — and the actor has a great deal of sympathy with Mel Gibson.

In an interview with Playboy (picked up by the Daily Mail), Oldman, promoting “Dawn of the Planet of the Apes,” spoke out about Gibson’s seeming exile from Hollywood following a series of rants caught on tape, including one in which he claimed “Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world.” Oldman sees both sides of the issue:

“Mel Gibson is in a town that’s run by Jews, and he said the wrong thing because he’s actually bitten the hand that I guess has fed him – and doesn’t need to feed him anymore because he’s got enough dough.

“He’s like an outcast, a leper, you know? But some Jewish guy in his office somewhere hasn’t turned and said, “That f—ing kraut” or “F— those Germans,” whatever it is? We all hide and try to be so politically correct. That’s what gets me.”


Oldman also defended Alec Baldwin’s use of homophobic language, an issue that hasn’t quite cost Baldwin his career but has been hotly contested since last fall: “Alec calling someone an F-A-G in the street while he’s pissed off coming out of his building because they won’t leave him alone. I don’t blame him. So they persecute.”

http://www.salon.com/2014/06/23/gary_oldmans_shocking_p_c_rant_on_12_years_a_slave_and_anti_semitism_mel_gibson_is_in_a_town_thats_run_by_jews/



And here I thought he was acting when he played all those scumball characters.
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Actor Gary Oldman: “Mel Gibson is in a town that’s run by Jews” (Original Post) Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 OP
I had heard Oldman tended MFM008 Jun 2014 #1
Is he a xxqqqzme Jun 2014 #5
I haven't seen "Sirius Black" Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #43
Clearly, you aren't a Harry Potter fan. That's OK. I used to be, but no longer. Coventina Jun 2014 #45
Really? Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #14
Oh snap shenmue Jun 2014 #2
Who is this Gary Oldman? KamaAina Jun 2014 #3
He's had quite a few good roles Revanchist Jun 2014 #7
He even voiced a dragon. Archae Jun 2014 #12
An incredibly talented actor who, unfortunately is also a conservative tool. CBGLuthier Jun 2014 #10
He was amazingly good in "Hannibal" and totally awful in "The Fifth Element" Glorfindel Jun 2014 #16
Amazing in Prick Up your Ears too. bettyellen Jun 2014 #21
I've always thought that he was deliberately totally awful in that. (nt) Orrex Jun 2014 #44
It was an awful movie, all around Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #46
I meant deliberately awful in The Fifth Element. Orrex Jun 2014 #47
Not a big fan of Julianne Moore, either Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #49
Yes. Super-sleazy. Orrex Jun 2014 #50
IMO his best was "Immortal beloved" G_j Jun 2014 #26
He was awesome as Beethoven. nt Ilsa Jun 2014 #36
Defending anti-Semitism and homophobia. clASSy! Behind the Aegis Jun 2014 #4
Really.. he may be a "good actor".. but he doesn't sound too bright. Cha Jun 2014 #34
Hey Aegis leftynyc Jun 2014 #38
I can't speak to the post you responded to, but tkmorris Jun 2014 #40
Actually I was surprised leftynyc Jun 2014 #42
He actually is saying he doesn't believe in "political correctness". Which he believe is free lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #51
+100 theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #56
Gary Oldman has always been a reactionary right-wing nutjob... joeybee12 Jun 2014 #6
That is how I remember him too. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #22
aaaand thanks for playing There Went My Career NightWatcher Jun 2014 #8
+1 Hong Kong Cavalier Jun 2014 #9
Will be rooting for the apes to kick his ass this summer! villager Jun 2014 #11
Fuck. WilliamPitt Jun 2014 #13
whoa, really? I loved him in that. And in Prick up Your Ears, he was incredible. But then again he bettyellen Jun 2014 #18
The thing about his role in 'the Contender'... Blanks Jun 2014 #24
A friend of mine was in a film with Gary Oldman and said he is a lovely man Siwsan Jun 2014 #15
The same can be said for many psychopaths Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #23
Completely agree. Siwsan Jun 2014 #53
Of course, being racist doesn't make you a psychopath. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #57
surprisingly- or maybe not- bigots can be lovely people. they're still bigots. cali Jun 2014 #30
When he's not drinking. TeamPooka Jun 2014 #59
Guess he did not get the Memo but we don't just run Hollywood but dilby Jun 2014 #17
Very disgusting. *sigh* and "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy" is one of my favorite movies. Coventina Jun 2014 #19
My feelings exactly. Paladin Jun 2014 #25
I know, right? When I heard about the remake I was like, "Why?" Coventina Jun 2014 #37
Every time that flick comes on cable TV, I find myself watching it again. Paladin Jun 2014 #39
Would you watch a movie with a white supremacist in it? Archae Jun 2014 #20
never did like john wayne niyad Jun 2014 #27
I NEVER did like that SOB. NEVER and NEVER thought he could act. He was an idiot when Ecumenist Jun 2014 #54
Mr. Oldman, you have the right to state your opinion. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #28
Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead abelenkpe Jun 2014 #29
Oldman whines that he can't call Nancy Pelosi "a fucking useless c---" without catching hell. cali Jun 2014 #31
Bummer. deathrind Jun 2014 #32
ABSOLUTELY true, Deathrind BUT he is NOT exempt from the CONSEQUENCES of his Ecumenist Jun 2014 #58
One can be brilliantly talented janlyn Jun 2014 #33
Yet another reason to ignore celebrity opinions. (nt) Inkfreak Jun 2014 #35
Hi opinions are only that.. he isn't a US citizen. n/t LeftinOH Jun 2014 #41
No Country For Old Man. JaneyVee Jun 2014 #48
That will put a serious black mark on his reputation. WatermelonRat Jun 2014 #52
I thought people had decided that disapproval of that sort of language BainsBane Jun 2014 #55
 

Alex P Notkeaton

(309 posts)
43. I haven't seen "Sirius Black"
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:05 PM
Jun 2014

But in The Professional, Romeo Is Bleeding, The Contender, etc., his characters have exuded sleaziness.

Coventina

(29,715 posts)
45. Clearly, you aren't a Harry Potter fan. That's OK. I used to be, but no longer.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:08 PM
Jun 2014

Sirius Black is a character from the HP universe, played in the movies by Gary Oldman.

He's played other non-sleazy characters as well.

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
7. He's had quite a few good roles
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:24 PM
Jun 2014
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000198/

Edit:

Until I looked at the list I had forgotten that he played Sid Vicious in Sid and Nancy

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
10. An incredibly talented actor who, unfortunately is also a conservative tool.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:26 PM
Jun 2014

He was Dracula in Francis Ford Coppola's adaptation a few years back and Lt. Gordon in the recent Batman films.

He also payed Sid Vicious in Sid & Nancy. I liked him more as Sid than as Gary.

 

Alex P Notkeaton

(309 posts)
46. It was an awful movie, all around
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:18 PM
Jun 2014

A major disappointment after SOTL. Fortunately, Red Dragon was a pretty decent cap on the series.

Orrex

(67,103 posts)
47. I meant deliberately awful in The Fifth Element.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:22 PM
Jun 2014

As for Hannibal, I agree that it was a disappointment.

I saw it again recently and found that it was better than I'd remembered, but still not great. I simply don't accept the conventional wisdom that Ridley Scott is all that great a director. Loved Red Dragon, though.

 

Alex P Notkeaton

(309 posts)
49. Not a big fan of Julianne Moore, either
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:28 PM
Jun 2014

That may have been a factor for me. But Mason Verger was yet another sleazy character played by Oldman.

Orrex

(67,103 posts)
50. Yes. Super-sleazy.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:35 PM
Jun 2014

I like Julianne Moore, but not as Clarice.

I thought that Oldman was excellent as Lieutenant/Commissioner Gordon, by the way. It was a remarkably subtle performance in a bombastic setting, quite a contrast from other roles.

Behind the Aegis

(56,104 posts)
4. Defending anti-Semitism and homophobia. clASSy!
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:22 PM
Jun 2014

Many don't have a problem with the anti-Semitic canard about Jews running Hollywood, I have even seen it defended here. Some people don't seem to realize it is a stereotype with nasty implications. I recently saw a poster defend someone using the word "faggot" when used by another Hollywood type (who then profusely apologized in a way that was quite acceptable). This isn't about "political correctness."

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
38. Hey Aegis
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:31 AM
Jun 2014

I got a post hidden yesterday for calling someone who went on a rant about the USS LIberty and AIPAC an imbecile. His/her post was left alone and mine was hidden. Antisemitism on the left is a very real problem.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
40. I can't speak to the post you responded to, but
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:42 AM
Jun 2014

If you called someone an imbecile you SHOULD have had your post hidden. It's a clear violation of the rules. Surely you aren't surprised by this?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
42. Actually I was surprised
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:16 AM
Jun 2014

When I serve on a jury here I always look at the post the poster was responding to. There are some things that call for outrage and I think conspiracy theories are in that category. That his post was not alerted on tells a lot.

lostincalifornia

(5,346 posts)
51. He actually is saying he doesn't believe in "political correctness". Which he believe is free
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:48 PM
Jun 2014

speech which includes anti-Semitism, racist, and homophobic garbage. However, what he fails to understand is that there is a reason why these things are not politically correct, which doesn't say much for his historical perspective or his hidden racist and anti-Semitic views.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
13. Fuck.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:32 PM
Jun 2014

One of my most favorite actors. I always knew he was a wingnut; he completely disavowed his role in "The Contender," in which he played a right-wing House Rep bent on destroying a presidential nominee, because he said the film's editing distorted his character.

This, though...shit.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
18. whoa, really? I loved him in that. And in Prick up Your Ears, he was incredible. But then again he
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:46 PM
Jun 2014

was playing a charming sociopath. He's kind of good at that, I guess. But wow, disappointing to hear that.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
24. The thing about his role in 'the Contender'...
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 06:34 PM
Jun 2014

Is that he played an older character. He's such a good actor that he plays characters of any age. The first movie I saw him in was as Lee Harvey Oswald in JFK.

He was utterly despicable in 'Murder In the First.'

Siwsan

(27,833 posts)
15. A friend of mine was in a film with Gary Oldman and said he is a lovely man
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:40 PM
Jun 2014

Admittedly, she's not overly political, but she said that between scenes he was very down to earth and a lot of fun to be around.

 

Alex P Notkeaton

(309 posts)
23. The same can be said for many psychopaths
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 06:27 PM
Jun 2014

When he wanted to, Ted Bundy could play the perfect gentleman.

Siwsan

(27,833 posts)
53. Completely agree.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 05:48 PM
Jun 2014

It's just compared to some other as big and bigger names she's worked with, of all political stripes, he was one of the few who was really down to earth and approachable.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
30. surprisingly- or maybe not- bigots can be lovely people. they're still bigots.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 07:07 PM
Jun 2014

dilby

(2,273 posts)
17. Guess he did not get the Memo but we don't just run Hollywood but
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:45 PM
Jun 2014

we also run Washington and the entire World. Well at least that is what the Internet told me.

Coventina

(29,715 posts)
19. Very disgusting. *sigh* and "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy" is one of my favorite movies.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:46 PM
Jun 2014

Including my much beloved Colin Firth, Benedict Cumberbatch, and Mark Strong.

Geez, what a disappointment....

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
25. My feelings exactly.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 06:41 PM
Jun 2014

I didn't think it was possible to out-do Alec Guiness' version of George Smiley, but Oldman proved me wrong. I really hate this.

Coventina

(29,715 posts)
37. I know, right? When I heard about the remake I was like, "Why?"
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:24 AM
Jun 2014

But I had to go and see it, because of the stellar cast.

And then I had to see it again, just to fully appreciate it.

And then I bought it on DVD.

I have the t-shirt from the Phoenix premiere, even.

Now I don't even know if I want to wear it anymore....

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
39. Every time that flick comes on cable TV, I find myself watching it again.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:33 AM
Jun 2014

I've been a LeCarre' fan for decades (watch for LeCarre's appearance in the movie, he's the white-haired, distinguished-looking guest at that drunken office party). Great movie with a great cast. What a shame that Oldman has cast a pall on all of it......

 

Archae

(47,245 posts)
20. Would you watch a movie with a white supremacist in it?
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:47 PM
Jun 2014

In 1971 John Wayne said in a Playboy interview where he said he believed in white supremacy.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
54. I NEVER did like that SOB. NEVER and NEVER thought he could act. He was an idiot when
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:04 PM
Jun 2014

alive and type casting his way through DREADFUL westerns and he's an idiot today....PERIOD.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
28. Mr. Oldman, you have the right to state your opinion.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 07:05 PM
Jun 2014

And I have the right to state my opinion that your opinion is dumb.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
29. Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 07:06 PM
Jun 2014

Loved him in that movie. He's a conservative?


Defending bigoted tirades of other celebrities?

So disappointed.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
31. Oldman whines that he can't call Nancy Pelosi "a fucking useless c---" without catching hell.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 07:14 PM
Jun 2014

poor wittle gary.

go fuck yourself Oldman.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
32. Bummer.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 07:19 PM
Jun 2014

But he is entitled to his opinion agree with it or not, the 1st amendment works both ways.

He was great in Leon The Professional.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
58. ABSOLUTELY true, Deathrind BUT he is NOT exempt from the CONSEQUENCES of his
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:15 PM
Jun 2014

FUCKED UP comments.

BainsBane

(57,751 posts)
55. I thought people had decided that disapproval of that sort of language
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:06 PM
Jun 2014

amounted to censorship? Or is that only for slurs against women and LGBT folks?

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