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Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:37 PM

Need a reason to kick your Starbucks habit?

"NEW YORK (AP) - It turns out Starbucks isn't contributing any upfront scholarship money to an online college degree program it introduced this week.

The Seattle-based company unveiled a program Monday that included a scholarship it described as "an investment" between Starbucks and Arizona State University. The program is designed to allow Starbucks workers to earn an online degree at the school at a steeply discounted rate.

Initially, Starbucks said that workers would be able to offset the costs through an upfront scholarship it was providing with Arizona State, but declined to say exactly how much of the cost it was shouldering. The chain estimated that the scholarship would average about $6,500 over two years to cover tuition of about $20,000.

Following the announcement, however, Arizona State University president Michael Crow told The Chronicle of Higher Education that Starbucks is not contributing any money toward the scholarship. Instead, Arizona State will essentially charge workers less than the sticker price for online tuition. Much of the remainder would likely be covered by federal aid since most Starbucks workers don't earn a lot of money."

Rest of the article here:

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Starbucks-admits-its-not-contributing-to-hyped-scholarships-263837031.html

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Reply Need a reason to kick your Starbucks habit? (Original post)
FSogol Jun 2014 OP
ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #1
dilby Jun 2014 #2
ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #5
dilby Jun 2014 #16
ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #18
dilby Jun 2014 #20
ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #22
Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #6
FSogol Jun 2014 #9
Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #15
FSogol Jun 2014 #23
FSogol Jun 2014 #4
ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #7
FSogol Jun 2014 #8
ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #10
FSogol Jun 2014 #11
ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #14
FSogol Jun 2014 #17
ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #21
Xyzse Jun 2014 #3
Aristus Jun 2014 #12
Uben Jun 2014 #13
closeupready Jun 2014 #19

Response to FSogol (Original post)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:55 PM

1. Didn't Starbucks' CEO Howard Shultz go on Jon Stewart the other night and

 

explain exactly that they, Starbucks, would be providing free college tuition for all employees?

"Today we announced that Starbucks would become the first U.S. company to provide free college tuition to all of our employees," Shultz said. That's a fairly unequivocal statement.

That's all I need to know and the means to that end matter not to me. And I still have no reason to boycott Starbucks and so will not be doing so based on the content of the OP.

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/4lqlz1/howard-schultz

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:00 PM

2. Except it's not free it will cost $13,000 for a 4 year degree.

Now $13,000 is a lot better than the $60,000 I paid for mine but it's not free and it's not costing Starbucks a dime. Kind of crappy that they basically came out and made it sound like they were offering something no other company offers and making it sound like they were picking up the tab.

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Response to dilby (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:05 PM

5. Shultz says right in the video that it will cost Starbucks "Millions of dollars per year" in his

 

response to Jon's question about the program being priced at $50,000,000 over a period of time (I closed the video tab, but maybe it was a ten year period Jon was referring to...)

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:20 PM

16. Starbucks is not picking up the costs, the employees are.

Starbucks negotiated the $6,500 two year tuition price tag for their employees and the idea is that their employees make such a low amount of money they will qualify for federal grants and scholarships to pickup that amount. But those that don't qualify will have to pay the amount out of pocket. It's still a really great deal but Starbucks should not have been parading around acting like they were picking up the tab for their employees to attend ASU. If anything ASU should be getting props for dropping their tuition fees so low for Starbucks employees.

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Response to dilby (Reply #16)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:22 PM

18. How do you interpret the video (link) I posted? nt

 

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #18)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:28 PM

20. He lied.

I saw the John Stewart segment when it originally aired and then the next day it came out that what he is pushing was not true. Been hoping John would make an announcement that he was hoodwinked by this schiester.

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Response to dilby (Reply #20)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:45 PM

22. I watched the segment when it aired, too, but missed the day after refutations. nt

 

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Response to dilby (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:06 PM

6. It's not a great deal, but it's a good deal

It's a shame the "spoiled" it by over-selling.

I suspect that it costs more than $13K per year to attend ASU. And at most private universities, $13K will barely cover one semester.

It's a great perk for the employees and good on Star Bucks for making it happen.

But they did really screw up the PR.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:13 PM

9. For profit universities are a really bad deal. They cost 3x what the typical community college cost

and the credits don't usually transfer. For profit universities are a big scam.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:20 PM

15. I agree...

But this is Arizona State University. You might be thinking of the University of Phoenix.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #15)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:48 PM

23. My bad. I saw 'online" and assumed. n/t

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:04 PM

4. LOL, Making his employees so poor they qualify for public aid qualifies in your mind?

He is telling lies.
Ask Seattle area basketball fans about Schultz's truth telling abilities.

How do they pay tuition without paying any of the costs? Starbucks scrapped a perfectly group corporate tuition assistance program and is trying to spin doing nothing in return.

They must be happy there are so many saps that fall for that.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:07 PM

7. So, my next question was "So Shultz lied on national TV?". I guess you answered that.

 

I don't see how he thinks he can get away with leaving that sort of record, like the video link I posted. It's out there, forever.

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:11 PM

8. He said in public that he'd never move the Seattle Supersonics. They now play in Oklahoma.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:13 PM

10. I don't know the first thing about that. Wait a minute...

 

Oklahoma has an NBA team?

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:15 PM

11. Yup, since 2008. OK City, basketball capital of the world! n/t

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Response to FSogol (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:18 PM

14. 2008? Jesus Christ, where have I been?

 



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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:22 PM

17. Um, they made it to the finals on 2012, but lost to the Miami Heat.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #17)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:34 PM

21. Oh yeah, I vaguely remember that. If the Mavs aren't in the finals, I stop paying attention

 

as soon as they are out during the playoffs. I missed the first round that season and apparently Oklahoma took Dallas out. Once Dallas was out, I didn't care anymore.

I don't regularly watch regular season basketball, just catch a game here and there by circumstance. I do try to watch the playoffs and the finals most years but sometimes I'll pass if I can't get fired up on a Dallas Mavs post-season.

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Response to FSogol (Original post)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:02 PM

3. Haven't had Starbucks for..

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Over 7 months before I gave in yesterday.

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Response to FSogol (Original post)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:18 PM

12. I kicked my Starbuck's habit years ago.

When they refused after petitioning to become a gun-free zone.

I've patronized locally-owned coffee shops since that time. Haven't backslid once.

I think Starbuck's recently said they will now be a gun-free zone, but it's too late for them. I'm only one person, and they won't miss my business. But I'm really enjoying what my local coffee shops have to offer.

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Response to FSogol (Original post)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:18 PM

13. Just like Walmart.....

.....taxpayers are the ones shouldering the burden, not Starbucks. I would not go into one of those places if their shit was free. I'm tired of these mega-companies that pay their workers so poorly they qualify for assistance programs strutting out and act like they are doing something for the workers when it's not costing them a dime.
I personally think we should bill the Waltons for every dime of assistance their workers receive. They wouldn't be making billions anymore. Why should American taxpayers make them rich? That goes for Starbucks, too.

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Response to FSogol (Original post)

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:22 PM

19. Wow. Chutzpah is the word that comes to mind, but

 

that's not quite right, because at least with chutzpah, there is no attempt to mislead.

If this report is true, I'm honestly appalled, and little corporate behavior these days does that anymore.

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