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RandySF

(58,499 posts)
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 10:02 PM Jun 2014

I support Hillary, but Bill Mahar is right.

The more the public sees of Hillary between now and mid-2015, the quicker she may wear out her welcome before November, 2016. She should just cool it a bit, rest, strategize and make the rounds when the time is right.

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BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
1. No, she needs to do everything she can...
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 10:33 PM
Jun 2014

between now and November to support Democratic candidates. She should be out there all the time promoting the Democrat's ideas. What she needs to avoid is making it about her and 2016.

She is needed this year to help the party in the midterms.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
2. I agree.. that's would she should be doing. Took the words right out of my keyboard, BillZBubb
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 10:37 PM
Jun 2014

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. Correct! That is what she is doing, along with Bill and Elizabeth Warren. We can't wait until 2016
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 11:44 PM
Jun 2014
We must GOTV this year! Boehner's just handed out $30 million from his paymasters to go after Democrats in the states to get that GOP majority. If that doesn't outrage anyone enought to take action now, they should be checked for brain wave function.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. If I saw her busting her ass trying to get Democrats elected to congress in 2014
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 10:47 PM
Jun 2014

instead of flitting around the country on a campaign junket disguised as a book tour, or giving speeches to fat cat bankers at $250k a pop, or on every TV fake news show there is talking about how poor she is, I wouldn't mind seeing a lot more of her.

But if all she's gonna do is more of the same crap she's been doing, then I've already seen too much of her.

joshcryer

(62,267 posts)
13. Wait for it.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:59 AM
Jun 2014

If she runs she'll be at the forefront of the 2014 races. I consider her support for Wendy Davis (who is center-right) the metric or goalpost at which we know for absolute certain she's running. If she spends only but a few days campaigning for Davis, Hillary Clinton is running for President. You heard it here first.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
4. I sort of agree and I sort of wonder
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 11:11 PM
Jun 2014

if the campaign is getting potential rough spots out there and dealt with prior to the actual campaign. ?? I would like her to take a rest. I agree that the current schedule will make me tired of her eventually. How is that for being double minded??!!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. Bill Clinton came out in February with an endorsement of Grimes. The Big Dog knows how
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 11:32 PM
Jun 2014

To get votes for his candidates.

progressoid

(49,951 posts)
8. I'm not really a Hillary supporter but I understand why she's doing it.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:19 AM
Jun 2014

She has to stay in the media spotlight. Just like she had to say the Bible was her favorite book. Gotta play the game.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
10. In 2008, I assumed several things were about Obama only
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:38 AM
Jun 2014

"playing the game," too. And I disregarded them totally for that reason. I have since decided never to do that again.

A candidate who says something needs to be willing for Democrats as well as for Republicans to take the candidate at his or her word (to use the term Hillary used for Obama back then).

Hillary says the Bible is her favorite book, that tells me something (even if she is faking it, as Maher claims). So does her association with The Family while she was a Senator. That Bill Maher waves something away doesn't make it so. And even if she is faking it, that tells me something, too.

When choosing a candidate, about all we can rely on is what they say--and even then...... Hillary is either speaking her own truth about herself or being willing to tell any lie to get elected and being willing to pander to conservatives more than to liberals--and maybe neither of those things will end on election day. Either way....

merrily

(45,251 posts)
11. Ah, I see. Even people trying to have her back, but not doing that
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:48 AM
Jun 2014

exactly as you would like, are sexist.

Pulling out the gender card willy nilly is not helpful to women, including Hillary, or to society as a whole.

joshcryer

(62,267 posts)
12. He's wrong. She needs to continually "trial balloon."
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:54 AM
Jun 2014

Every thing that doesn't work, she can pass it off. Stuff that works, she can use. And that's what she's doing.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
14. "Playing the game" is what got us the Hobby Lobby decision. Had single payer not been tossed out
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 10:54 AM
Jun 2014

before even beginning the process of HCR, we'd have had a stronger policy. Its time for a leader who isn't afraid to admit they're secular.
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