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babylonsister

(172,664 posts)
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 08:30 AM Dec 2011

"when...Repubs have lost the ed.board of the WSJ, they’ve reached a humiliating level of failure"

Posted with permission.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_12/the_republicans_payroll_tax_fi034233.php


The Republicans’ ‘payroll tax fiasco’
By Steve Benen


Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) told CNN yesterday that the fight over extending the payroll tax cut is “harming the Republican Party,” adding, “We’ve got to get this resolved and with the realization that the payroll-tax cut must remain in effect.”

The Wall Street Journal’s editorial page, one of the most conservative pieces of media real estate in the country, went considerably further today, blasting the GOP’s “payroll tax fiasco,” and mocking Republicans for “managing to lose the tax issue” to President Obama.

GOP Senate leader Mitch McConnell famously said a year ago that his main task in the 112th Congress was to make sure that President Obama would not be re-elected. Given how he and House Speaker John Boehner have handled the payroll tax debate, we wonder if they might end up re-electing the President before the 2012 campaign even begins in earnest.

The GOP leaders have somehow managed the remarkable feat of being blamed for opposing a one-year extension of a tax holiday that they are surely going to pass. This is no easy double play.


It’s worth noting that the WSJ editorial doesn’t seem especially enamored with the proposed tax break itself — the editors see “the entire exercise” as “political” — but it nevertheless seems amazed that Republicans are screwing up the fight this badly. Indeed, the Journal added that GOP lawmakers have “achieved the small miracle of letting Mr. Obama position himself as an election-year tax cutter.”

Assuring Republicans that “the political rout will only get worse,” the WSJ urged the GOP to “cut their losses and find a way to extend the payroll holiday quickly.”

In case this isn’t obvious, when congressional Republicans have lost the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal, they’ve reached a humiliating level of failure.

It’s far from clear, however, what GOP leaders intend to do about it. Senators left Washington over the weekend, confident that the House wouldn’t screw this up. After the lower chamber did screw it up, many House members headed to the airport, too. Folks like House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) are demanding that Senate Democrats agree to come back to DC and start giving Republicans goodies to make the far-right happy — Boehner wants the White House to lend him a hand in this endeavor — but Democratic leaders believe they’re holding a much better hand and are content to watch the GOP flail.

With the tax break poised to expire in 10 days and 16 hours, what’s the end game? The New York Times sketched out the remaining options.

Republicans could decide to accept the two-month extension as is or with additional sweeteners, like a promise that a conference committee would meet to seek a longer-term extension, but such a move would require unanimous consent from the Senate. They could add another social policy rider, as is their tendency, and the Senate could toss it off the bill later, through a procedure that has been employed in the past. Or they could do similar procedural moves with a bill to extend the benefits for a year, which has been the goal of Mr. Obama and Democrats all along.


I’ll have more on the conference committee option later today.
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"when...Repubs have lost the ed.board of the WSJ, they’ve reached a humiliating level of failure" (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2011 OP
Good Post, thank you ..k and r.nt Stuart G Dec 2011 #1
They're cutting their nose off to spite their face lunatica Dec 2011 #2
But the Tea Party folk are wielding the knife. Kablooie Dec 2011 #17
I don't know how this president does it. He seems always to be ahead of the republicans. southernyankeebelle Dec 2011 #3
He seems always to be ahead of the republicans. AlbertCat Dec 2011 #11
Outsmarting is what he does best. savalez Dec 2011 #15
I'm with you there. southernyankeebelle Dec 2011 #27
Faux radio news this morning House Republicans offer a doc03 Dec 2011 #4
The Senate Democrats along with 39 Senate Republicans handed Boehner a loaded gun. Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #5
I've noticed when GOP lawmakers get laser-focused on something justiceischeap Dec 2011 #6
They're really lousy multi-taskers. stubtoe Dec 2011 #33
Boehner was also riled about the Keystone pipeline, looked like he was going off the rails at wordpix Dec 2011 #37
the senate and Obama should tell the house to get fu**ed rdking647 Dec 2011 #7
The WSJ ProSense Dec 2011 #8
They're just NOW noticing???? AlbertCat Dec 2011 #9
No. They're just now admitting... JHB Dec 2011 #19
K + R deacon Dec 2011 #10
Repugs are determined to be in the minority for another 40 years. louis-t Dec 2011 #12
If you're as disappointed with President Obama as some of us are . . . Jack Rabbit Dec 2011 #13
They've pulled stupid crap before TxVietVet Dec 2011 #14
every december they pull this crap...o, wrong, all year long they whine & cry and pull this crap katty Dec 2011 #16
And the United States is supposed to be the envy of the world. RC Dec 2011 #18
Love the responses to the WSJ article from the wingers Ishoutandscream2 Dec 2011 #20
For those that dont believe in Santa Claus cstanleytech Dec 2011 #21
it`s going to be huntsman or mittens madrchsod Dec 2011 #22
haw de haw haw haw unionworks Dec 2011 #23
When your adversary The Wizard Dec 2011 #24
This could make Boehner turn orange grantcart Dec 2011 #25
k&r...this is their reward for embracing the teabaggers spanone Dec 2011 #26
Fucking GOP Assholes....."Harming the Republican Party...." WHAT ABOUT HARMING THE PEOPLE"? opihimoimoi Dec 2011 #28
Sweet isn't it............ Historic NY Dec 2011 #29
sad that there is so little recognition that like the debt, this is the talk radio gods at work certainot Dec 2011 #30
No. You don't understand, this is Obamas fault. Let me explain. wandy Dec 2011 #31
Damn Liberal Media Z_California Dec 2011 #32
That's what my boss just said Beavker Dec 2011 #36
Spot On! Tarheel_Dem Dec 2011 #34
Even the WSJ scowls at the Republicon vendetta on America SpiralHawk Dec 2011 #35
Thanks. Scurrilous Dec 2011 #38

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
2. They're cutting their nose off to spite their face
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 08:37 AM
Dec 2011

raising taxes used to be the third rail. No more. People might remember this the next time they claim they'll never raise taxes.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
3. I don't know how this president does it. He seems always to be ahead of the republicans.
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:02 AM
Dec 2011

I hope the president doesn't bend and forces the house to do the job.

savalez

(3,517 posts)
15. Outsmarting is what he does best.
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 01:12 PM
Dec 2011

That's all he can do until we give him a Democratic congress again.

Get out the vote in 2012.

Fire Boehner!

doc03

(38,952 posts)
4. Faux radio news this morning House Republicans offer a
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:04 AM
Dec 2011

one year extension of the payroll tax cuts but Senate Democrats refuse to negotiate.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
5. The Senate Democrats along with 39 Senate Republicans handed Boehner a loaded gun.
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:13 AM
Dec 2011

Which he promptly shot himself with, at the behest of Eric Cantor and the Teabaggers.

I'm starting to think Boehner is drinking a quart of Scotch for breakfast every day.

His political decision-making seems to be veering towards self-destruction, yet the House Republicans are completely blind to it.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
6. I've noticed when GOP lawmakers get laser-focused on something
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:18 AM
Dec 2011

they tend not to see beyond that. Since they are so focused on making sure Obama doesn't get reelected, they are slipping up in areas they would otherwise sweep up on.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
37. Boehner was also riled about the Keystone pipeline, looked like he was going off the rails at
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 02:25 PM
Dec 2011

press conf.

He's apparently getting lots of "support" from Big Oil.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
7. the senate and Obama should tell the house to get fu**ed
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:20 AM
Dec 2011

let them come crawling back and pass the senate bill as is..

JHB

(38,074 posts)
19. No. They're just now admitting...
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 01:34 PM
Dec 2011

...and maybe they're trying to position for the post-Rupert era at NewsCorp.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
13. If you're as disappointed with President Obama as some of us are . . .
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 01:06 PM
Dec 2011

. . . we can still count on the GOTea to save his @$$.

katty

(11,033 posts)
16. every december they pull this crap...o, wrong, all year long they whine & cry and pull this crap
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 01:28 PM
Dec 2011

tedious psychotics.

Ishoutandscream2

(6,776 posts)
20. Love the responses to the WSJ article from the wingers
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 01:38 PM
Dec 2011

The editorial board has joined the "liberal media" and has become "PC". A Murdoch rag, LOL. Love reading their reactions!

cstanleytech

(28,317 posts)
21. For those that dont believe in Santa Claus
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 02:18 PM
Dec 2011

"Republicans are drowning out that victory in the sounds of their circular firing squad."
See, there is a Santa!!!

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
22. it`s going to be huntsman or mittens
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 07:09 PM
Dec 2011

the tea party wing of the republican party is doa.

when it comes down the center of both parties will nominate a candidate for president.

opihimoimoi

(52,426 posts)
28. Fucking GOP Assholes....."Harming the Republican Party...." WHAT ABOUT HARMING THE PEOPLE"?
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 11:03 PM
Dec 2011

Notice how their Party has Priority ???? How Revealing.....

Historic NY

(39,828 posts)
29. Sweet isn't it............
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 11:52 PM
Dec 2011

I've tweeted Boehner & Cantor congratulating them and hoping to see them on the unemployment line next year.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
30. sad that there is so little recognition that like the debt, this is the talk radio gods at work
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 11:56 PM
Dec 2011

the teabaggers are living in an alternate reality that was largely created and reinforced with the coordinated unchallenged repetition only possible with the talk radio monopoly.

this is the limbaugh army at work- it was limbaugh's months of assurances that not raising the debt ceiling would be beneficial for the tea party that caused that problem. it's the same steadfast irrational stupidity that gets us another problem. all because the collective left ignores talk radio. it the cons most important weapon, insulated from truth, but there is no organized opposition to it.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
31. No. You don't understand, this is Obamas fault. Let me explain.
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 10:01 AM
Dec 2011

Trying to understand Tea Party logic I have read many right wing articls and spent sometime following conservite forms. I begin to see the light, so here goes, follow carefuly because it gets tricky. It is Obamas fault because the Tea Party wants to improve the econmey by eliminateing 200,000 publec sector jobs and raise medicare costs. They would further like to improve the economey by halfing unemployment benifits and cutting this tax givaway entitlement to the middle class, thus reducing spending power. This has the effect of sending the ditto head puindents into a spin because they misunderstood Lord Norquest's pledge to mean all taxes not only those taxes on the upper crust. This is causing their leaders (the Kooch branch of the guberment) to warn the Orange Boner that he isn't doing his job and is making the republicen party look bad and less electable. What is worse is he is making it difficult for Turtel Man to forfill his most important task for cogress which is to make Obama a one term president. They are further angered because they can't understand how a President with no leadership ability has led them to the edge of a cliff with no way to turn back.
See. It's Obamas fault.

Not knowing how to find the sarcasm tag I can only say..

Who thinks Obama can only play chess. That dude is holding a stright flush in one hell of a game of liers poker and it's time for the teabaggers to show their true cards.

Z_California

(650 posts)
32. Damn Liberal Media
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 12:08 PM
Dec 2011

Our local ABC news anchor, Chuck Henry, described it like so: "House Republicans want to extend the payroll tax for a year, but the Democrats only want a 2 month extension."

Beavker

(823 posts)
36. That's what my boss just said
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 01:29 PM
Dec 2011

That is the only difference he heard. That's it. I said, no, the 1 year deal had a bunch of other provisions in it. Plus, the point is, again missed by the media, that the House didn't even take the Senate bill up for debate, right? So they killed a vote at all on the Senate bill, and came up with this Trojan horse filled with turds.

But how can I expect the Teabaggers I work with to get that.

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