Why are there Women, Hispanic, Black and Gay Republicans?

[Liberalynn]

Pukes have nothing but contempt for us. They treat us as second class citizens! Seek to destroy our rights at every turn.

What is wrong with people who would aid their enemies? I'm sorry it just makes me sick and I have even less respect for those members of oppressed groups who openly suppot their oppressors, no matter what excuse they give.

I don't know how other people feel and this is JMHO but I personally look at other women who vote puke as traitors. If they want to surrender their rights that's fine. They deserve to lose them but they shouldn't be helping in trying to steal the rest of ours away and certainly not celebrating the theft.

[Marrah_G]

1. Much of it has to do with religion

I really don't understand lgbt republicans though... it makes no sense to me.

[Arkansas Granny]

7. Just a few days ago I heard a man say that he voted Republican because that's the party

that upheld his Christian convictions. They don't seem to understand, or care, that they are being manipulated by politicians that have very little concern for the general population, other than getting their vote.

[Liberalynn]

14. Maybe this shows how sadly cynical I've become

But I don't even believe that many of the Puke politicians are particularly devoted to their religions. I think it's just another tool they use to get themselves elected by any means necessary as you said.

[Louisiana1976]

80. Yes. They make their religion a campaign issue.

[Liberalynn]

12. I once had a psychiatrist say

It's sad how many people twist themselves into knots trying to live their lives by a book that was written a thousand years ago, by men with their own prejudicial axes to grind, that holds no relevance in today's world.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

53. Other religions have old writings but the followers don't seem to be as weird

I blame it on how religious cults and other grounds have evolved over time. Bigots.

[rusty fender]

2. Because they hate certain groups more

than they love themselves.

For instance, the blacks and Hispanics who vote Repub do so because they hate gays, atheists, Muslims, etc. The gays who vote Repub often hate themselves, but mostly it is because they hate poor people.

[Liberalynn]

20. It's just a sad vicious circle of hate.

I think it is beyond stupid to hate someone for something an individual has no control over like the color of their skin or their gender.

I know hate is negative and drains positive energy but I truly do hate racist, sexist, homophobes, who deliberately choose to be assholes and treat other people like dirt.

[Puzzledtraveller]

65. Are we not part of that circle?

[Liberalynn]

95. Maybe we are!

I guess I am just getting tired of seeing Women, African-Americans, LGBT, getting our rights that were fought hard for stolen again and then getting told we are the ones not respectful of others beliefs.

Look someone can be Archie Bunker personified in their own lives and that is their right but when they start trying to write that prejudice into law and take away the rights of others, I think a line has to be drawn, and they become an enemy.

[AverageJoe90]

113. I get tired of all this, too.

Unfortunately, it's been my more recent experience, that some of the fringe elements on our own side(or supposedly on our own side), have also taken to accusing white (mainstream) liberals of collective racism themselves, for whatever reason.....including by a select few here on DU(who, unfortunately, have not yet been held to account for their actions.) And yet, ironically, even here, a good number of these accusers seem to be white themselves.....what they may possibly hope to gain from such, I have no clue. In any case, do they honestly not realize how close to rightist spew some of their rhetoric sounds like? Honestly, some of this stuff I've read over the years, with a few words replaced and a few other tweaks, could appear as if it'd been taken straight from the mouths of Bill O'Reilly or Michael Savage(or Jesse Peterson, maybe)!

And honestly, this kind of infighting doesn't help us one bit.....and I find it all too funny, too, that most of the problems on this site in that regard, started not too long after Obama was elected.....

(P.S., I do have at least one link on file of such an accusation thrown in my direction; albeit not directly stated in that exact way, the intent was certainly there. I'll PM it to you if you may be interested.)

Look someone can be Archie Bunker personified in their own lives and that is their right but when they start trying to write that prejudice into law and take away the rights of others, I think a line has to be drawn, and they become an enemy.

This. Times a Thousand. When are people going to wake the fuck up?

[YoungDemCA]

63. Sometimes they extend that to hate to other members of their own group

But not (usually, at least) to themselves.

"I'm one of the good ones", they say, hoping that the dominant culture rewards them economically and politically. That sometimes even happens, so from a purely 100% selfish perspective, it's not that irrational.

[gordianot]

3. For the same reason the Republican Party is allowed to exist.

Rank bald ultimate stupidity. Republicans do not even serve the interests of the .001% when they destroy the middle class.

[Liberalynn]

21. That's true too.

I guess they mistakenly think that if only they didn't have to pay taxes they could be rich too.

[Spider Jerusalem]

4. Social conservatism, not wanting to pay taxes, and a belief in the"personal responsibility" myth.

[Liberalynn]

23. I guess it never occurs to them that the private sector

monopolies would charge them more, provide less, and be even more unaccountable than the government? A totally private sector world might work if there were really a competitive market place but that's a myth in today's economy. The only redress is lawsuits and the Pukes are like
limiting or even trying to completely eliminate that option.

Some people are just so narrowly focused it's frightening.

[YoungDemCA]

33. "Social conservatism" is too often code for bigotry

Rather than actually conserving American society and/or culture (the good parts of it, anyway-which is a necessarily subjective point that reasonable people can disagree about).

When a politician claims to be a "social conservative," watch the fuck out. Especially if you're a woman, person of color, or a member of the LGBT community. Or an immigrant, or below the poverty line, or...

[Jamaal510]

52. It should be referred to

as social "regressivism" instead of social conservatism. All it involves is a longing for social policies and beliefs of yesteryear.

[Louisiana1976]

82. True. They want to go back to the era when women couldn't vote, Jim Crow was

the law of the land, and homosexual activity was frowned upon.

[valerief]

5. Jesus. That's the ONLY reason (other than those people fitting into the multi-millionaire-plus

category).

[Liberalynn]

25. Didn't Carl Sagan

say something like religion is the biggest threat to our survival because it overrides people's ability to reason?

[valerief]

43. I dunno, but that's exactly right. The extreme inequality in the world is solely

due to magic thinking.

[Little Star]

6. I believe it's money & taxes. In other words, greed. n/t

[Liberalynn]

26. +1

[Louisiana1976]

83. Exactly.

[etherealtruth]

101. Yep!

[IronLionZion]

8. It's the money and/or religion, just like anyone else

I knew a gay mormon who wasn't born into it, he converted. It didn't make any sense at all. He claimed to appreciate their culture of community service and sound business principles in spite of their open hatred towards him.

And conservatives think from different perspectives than us. GOP has done outreach based on conservative religious issues (those evil liberals are such sinners!) and to educated professionals and business people (those lazy liberal bums are taking your money!) and so on. Many on the GOP side will deliberately misrepresent what liberals are for to demonize us.

Many women, minorities, and gay people had to work twice as hard for half the benefits because of discrimination and some do see the appeal in GOP's "I got mine F those other people" policies. Unfortunately.

An Indian blogger claims its easier to get dates with pretty blond republican girls, for example. Because the republicans are so openly racist, its easy to quickly find the ones who are not. Plus like in Dinesh D'Sousa's and Laura Ingraham's case they can also bond over a mutual hatred of the gays. While with liberals the prejudice is more subtle so you can be in a relationship with one for a while before finding out she looks down on you as a charity case.

Those who might be interested in traditional gender roles would also find GOP policies more appealing. This includes traditional minded women who long for the old ways and think the feminists are ruining society somehow.

[Liberalynn]

29. All of this makes sense in explaining their behavior.

My sister's friend, who is a Republican, only works outside the home because her husband wants her to. If she had a choice she would sit home all day even though her kids are old enough to take care of themselves. Yet she is constantly posting about being tired of having to pay taxes to support lazy people. I guess she doesn't get the hypocrisy of her thinking.

[Mr Dixon]

9. IMO

IMO from the AA perspective, they are trying to distance themselves and prove that they are not like the rest of us AA. To call them Tokens would be an understatement IMO clueless would be more in line with my opinion. The GOP uses them, as a buffer against racism within the party, “See we have a few Tokens I mean Black People in our party” it’s the same for all minorities in the GOP to include the LGBT community. As for women the step ford wives comes to mine, Stay at home, cook, clean or watch the maid clean, let the man of the house work and ,make decision, and most of all traditions handed down for generations.

[Liberalynn]

31. Totally agree with you on the "clueless"

It's strange how differently people react. Some face prejudice themselves and come out of it thinking "I would never want to treat another person as badly as I was just treated" and yet others who chose to become discriminatory themselves.

My Aunt was a Stepford wife, not because her husband wanted her to be but because she chose to be. Once when both my sister and I were having a hard time at our respective jobs she told us we deserved it because we were talking jobs away from men. She said we either should have gotten married or became nuns. Sometimes it's hard to believe she and my mother were sisters. My mother was pro-women's rights.

[Mr Dixon]

79. WOW

All i can say

[YarnAddict]

10. Because none of those groups is monolithic?

Just a guess.

[Orrex]

15. Except for the group of them that votes Republican

That group is monolithically stupid.

[YarnAddict]

24. I have women friends who

are staunchly "pro life," and vote R for that reason. I also have pro-life Democratic friends, and other friends who can't understand why a pro-life person would vote Dem. I'm sure the same can be said for the other groups. Or for other issues.

There are many other issues where people can agree to disagree, and we don't have to call them stupid for their beliefs.

[Orrex]

27. They are stupid because are single-issue voters

I'm sorry to have to spell it out so plainly, but there you have it.

Voting based on one issue at the price of ignoring many other major issues is simply idiotic. And if these friends vote Republican because they claim to be pro-life, then they're even more stupid than I thought. The GOP is staunchly anti-life, so a pro-lifer who votes for the GOP is deliberately voting against their own political views.

[YarnAddict]

67. Well,

it is possible to be both pro-life and pro-national security, or fiscally conservative, or whatever, which means they aren't exactly single issue. You may not agree with them, but that doesn't make them stupid, any more than your views make you stupid. If we could get past the name-calling, I think we'd all be better off.

[Orrex]

69. But that's not the situation that you described.

You wrote:

I have women friends who are staunchly "pro life," and vote R for that reason.

You described them as single-issue voters, so that's what I was addressing.

These women are explictly voting against the interests of women and children and LGBT and unions and infrastructure, all for the sake of Republican lip-service that flatters these women's pro-life sensibilities. That's stupid.

You may not agree with them, but that doesn't make them stupid, any more than your views make you stupid.

Well, since you opted to move the goal posts after I replied, I ask that you allow me to do the same. Rather than simply calling them "stupid," I will instead call them "politically stupid." They might be intelligent people, but they are making stupid political choices.

If we could get past the name-calling, I think we'd all be better off.

Name-calling is as old as the spoken word and probably predates it.

[YarnAddict]

72. Just an example

It was just my way of saying that women can hold diametrically opposed views on certain issues, and can't be expected to vote 100% the same way.

Guess I didn't get my point across the way I had intended to.

[Orrex]

73. Fair enough.

However, when a woman consistently votes in a way that is manifestly contrary to her own self-interest, one is inclined to wonder why she chooses to vote that way. Why does she give greater weight to a single issue at the expense of others which, in the aggregate, have a much larger impact than that one issue.

[YarnAddict]

74. Any person's "own self interest"

can't be determined by anyone else. I believe that everyone I know defines his/her own self interest for him/herself, and votes accordingly. I don't judge, and I hope my friends don't judge me.

[Orrex]

99. You do judge them, and they judge you.

That's what people do, most often by claiming that they don't judge.

We're getting to the point where we're going to have to agree to disagree. You seem to have the belief that people can only do things that are right and sensible and good according to (and affecting) only themselves. I don't see how a conscious adult in this time and nation can possibly think that's true.

[Liberalynn]

34. +1

[Liberalynn]

32. Maybe

but I just don't understand how they cannot see unintended negative consequences for themselves or their daughters and sons.

[joeybee12]

11. Because stupid is universal...it does not discriminate...nt

[Liberalynn]

35. LOL

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[Louisiana1976]

86. +1000

[TeamPooka]

13. Because con-men are good at fleecing people. nt

[Liberalynn]

36. +1

[Louisiana1976]

88. True. Gullibility plays a major role in the fact that there are women, black, LGTB,

and Hispanic Republicans.

[TeamPooka]

103. Actually It's why there are any Republicans

[reddread]

16. Yeah! I hate haters too!

those contemptible people have too much contempt.
listen to yourself.

[Liberalynn]

40. I get that there is hypocrisy

in my stance too. I just think there is a difference between judging people for things they themselves have no control over like their ethnicity and gender than judging them for their actions which are the majority of the time something they can control. Sexist and Racists aren't born that way. They choose to be that way. Now I will give you some have little control because of the environment they are raised in but for others who were given the benefit of education, experience, etc there is no excuse.

[reddread]

94. judge not

but when you do decide to form an opinion, perhaps you can factor in some of the likely reality.
Some people simply arent that intelligent, and all of them are fed steaming shovels full of propaganda.
Turning to hate before bothering to understand these aspects is playing into the hands of the real enemy.
A little more understanding, a little less disdain will help us all evolve in the right direction.

[KamaAina]

17. Why are there any Republicans?

[Liberalynn]

41. Good Question

[YoungDemCA]

70. Because some people value themselves more than they value the community

They call this perspective "individualism." The most extreme right-wing versions of this involve slogans like "We Built That!" and deny the government any role besides militarism, being a police state, and protecting private property rights. Oh, and rolling back civil rights for women and minorities. They love the sound of that.

Social justice? Evil Marxist collectivism (that's a dirty word to them) that must never, ever be considered.

Economic inequality? The market is working, celebrate it, don't punish success!

That is the ideology.

[valerief]

76. +1 gazillion!

[alp227]

18. Because of a me-me-me mentality.

It seems to be a Republican, one must sacrifice empathy and other forms of emotional connections with people of a lower status. Because they're lazy and takers.

[Liberalynn]

44. I blame Ronnie

for making selfishness a virtue in the minds of many in this country. I'm not saying it didn't exist before him, just that he championed its acceptance.

[YoungDemCA]

56. That's it exactly

Look at economic status, for example. There are a disturbing number of people who are one job loss, one medical emergency or other catastrophe away from total financial ruin who vote Republican. Why? Because they think of themselves as the "deserving" poor, or the "hard-working taxpayers."

And these same people often call themselves "Christian" too, which gives them moral justification for hating on the gays, the feminists, and anyone else not like them.

When you think of politics, economics, and social mobility as a zero-sum game, then you will deeply resent anyone less fortunate than you who you perceive to be getting a "handout."

[libodem]

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[Liberalynn]

45. Totally agree

[Louisiana1976]

89. +1 million

[stevenleser]

22. Chickens for Col. Sanders

In all honesty, there will always be what I call traitors/collaborators where small percentages of members of discriminated against groups will ally with or at least work for the oppressors. You had black overseers during slavery, jewish kapos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapo_(concentration_camp) that helped run the concentration camps, etc.

I think you have to look at these folks as victims of a different kind. That is the conclusion ultimately that a lot of African Americans came to regarding black overseers. I agree.

[Liberalynn]

49. It's hard to understand and forgive

but that is a healthier way of looking at it. It's just so hard to see all the progress that Susan B Anthony, Frederick Douglass, Dr. King and others fought so hard for being stripped away and having even some members of our own communities be perfectly okay with it.

[LibDemAlways]

28. Because stupidity knows no gender or ethnic boundaries. n/t

[FBaggins]

30. Probably for the same reasons that there are wealthy, white, christian, and male Democrats

The totality of a person's existence is almost never caught up in a single aspect that you want to use to characterize them.

"You are black, therefore you must be a 'X'" is just as racist when X=Democrat as when X=cotton-picker.

People get to choose for themselves what they value most and how they identify themselves. We can disagree with those priorities, but not with their right to set them.

[Lee-Lee]

39. I agree, in fact the premise of this post is in a way racist/sexist

The notion that if you are in a certain minority class you MUST think a certain way is in and of itself racist/sexist/homophobic.

It goes along with the unsaid second half- that your white males who are liberals are the truly enlightened and wise, while everybody else in the party must vote that way because of race, sex, orientation, etc and they didn't really "choose" it.

I can disagree with how they vote, but their reasons are theirs based on values and life experience. The notion that they can only be identified in how they should vote by skin color, race or sex is very devaluing and demeaning of them as a person capable of free thought.

I am a Democrat because I am able to think and judge and pick what matters to me- not just because I have non-white skin and a vagina. They influence my experience and values, sure, but they are far from being the entirety of who I am. Don't devalue me or my opinions by saying "of course your a Democrat, you minority female" because it's demeaning and devalues my intelligence as an individual.

[Liberalynn]

60. Of course being female isn't all of who you are

and there can be other reasons why you are a Democrat. But why would anyone vote for a party who blatantly supports treating people of your race, creed, sexual orientation, as lesser than? Do they approve of voter suppression, discrimination in the workplace etc because the Republican party advocates for all those things openly?

[YoungDemCA]

66. IMHO, this is where selfish individualism comes into play

And the zero-sum game thinking that goes alongside that.

No sense of solidarity or empathy with others like you. All about advancing your own incredibly narrow and short-sighted self-interest, at the expense of everyone else. That underlies much of the rationale for why too many marginalized, politically threatened, and/or poor people-of ANY group-appear to "buy into" the dominant culture and its oppressive social structures.

Of course, good ole-fashioned bigotry helps, too.

[YoungDemCA]

68. Good points

I appreciate this post.

[Liberalynn]

55. but Democrats are not out to strip all white rich Christian males of their rights.

The Republican party is out to strip blacks and Hispanics of their rights to vote, and women of their rights over their own bodies and careers.

Our side isn't forcing their side into abortions or birth control, or to accept less pay for equal work but their side is forcing women to live with either the choice of abstinence or unwanted pregnancies, and to accept injustice and second class citizenship.

They are allowed to make their own choices regarding their own lives and their own bodies but should stay out of others choices about what to do with theirs.

[YoungDemCA]

58. Right-it's a false equivalency

Regardless of how rich white Christian men vote, their rights and opportunities are not in danger.

What is perplexing to us is people who vote Republican who have nothing to gain, and everything to lose, by Republicans being in power. I chalk most of it up to internalized oppression-be it the bigotry of racism, sexism/misogyny, homophobia, or classism.

[FBaggins]

117. Tell that to white/rich/christian/males

They sure seem to think we are.

It's all a matter of perspective.

[Liberalynn]

118. when they can name one legal right that they have actually been deprived of or are in real danger of

actually being deprived of then I will grant them it's just a matter of "perspective" and the "well liberals are trying to take away my rights too" arguments. Women have already had real restrictions put on their freedom of choice, AA and Hispanics who have a legal right to vote are actually being denied that right based on Voter ID laws in some states, LGBT's are still being denied the right to marry in some states even though DOMA has been overturned.

The only thing white conservatives aren't allowed to do under the law, though they are doing their darndest to change that, with almost the complete blessing of the conservative SCOTUS majority, is infringe upon the legal rights of others and opt out of paying taxes completely.

[MrNJ]

37. Because they are rich

And don't want to share.

[Aerows]

38. I'm female and gay

so I have two of them. I couldn't freaking tell you why there are gay or female Republican voters. It baffles my mind.

[Liberalynn]

97. It just makes no sense to me why they defend somone who wants to

take away their rights.

[bettyellen]

42. they are propped up and promoted as "just another" republican for PR purposes.

people without a conscience, who enjoy being treated as "special", is a whole lot of it.

[YoungDemCA]

61. Yup-the tokenism effect

Or "I'm one of the good ones."

[Liberalynn]

100. +1

[SalviaBlue]

46. Because propaganda is a very powerful tool.

Misinformation and lies are told daily on tv and radio. Many people do not have the ability and/or desire to determine if what they are told is true.

[AgingAmerican]

48. That and enlarged amygdala

nt

[SalviaBlue]

75. Ha Ha, I had to look that one up...

but you might mean shrunken instead of enlarged.

Wikipedia says:

"Research using Rorschach test blot 03 finds that the number of unique responses to this random figure links to larger sized amygdalae. The researchers note, "Since previous reports have indicated that unique responses were observed at higher frequency in the artistic population than in the nonartistic normal population, this positive correlation suggests that amygdalar enlargement in the normal population might be related to creative mental activity."[33]

[AgingAmerican]

47. Ideologies make people stupid

nt

[Liberalynn]

102. Plus how do they know which part of their ideologies to follow?

The bible for example often contradicts itself.

[AgingAmerican]

115. The New Testement contradicts

everything else they believe in. Cognitive dissonance.

[theHandpuppet]

50. Haven't know many gay repukes

Certainly my partner and I are not friends with any but of the one's we've encountered, money seems to be the big thing with them. They've been economic conservatives to the extreme, don't like paying taxes, despise social welfare programs, etc. Of course, none of them mind shoveling their money into the bottomless maw of the military. They couldn't care less about rights, especially women's rights. Just show 'em the money.

[Liberalynn]

104. Money is a powerful motivator for some.

[Rider3]

51. Got to agree with you.

I wonder the same thing.

[Jamaal510]

54. A few of them could just be paid off

to be Republicans, if you know what I mean. It might sound cynical what I'm saying, but I wouldn't put it past Republican big-whigs to put up some facades towards demographic groups that they struggle with. They're desperate for more women, gay, and minorities to join their "tent".

[Quantess]

57. I don't know why. The same could be asked of those old women who slice up litle girls' genitalia,

cut everything off that there is to cut off, and sew it up so there is just a tiny hole for urine and menstruation. You know, FGM (Female Genital Mutilation).

Of course, these old women with kitchen knives and razors slicing up girl's crotches are not republicans, but I do see a few similarities.

[YoungDemCA]

59. Two words: internalized oppression

In sociology and psychology, internalized oppression is the manner in which members of an oppressed group come to internalize the oppressive attitudes of others toward themselves and those like them. For example, sometimes members of marginalized groups hold an oppressive view toward their own group, or start to believe in negative stereotypes. Examples include internalized racism, homophobia and sexism.[

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppression#Internalized_oppression

[Louisiana1976]

92. That makes sense.

[Liberalynn]

96. I hadn't read or heard about this before.

It kind of goes along with a verbally abused child who believes they are bad or ignorant because that's what they're abusive parents, guardians or teachers told them.

[chrisstopher]

62. Only 2 answers

Ignorance and stupidity

[Puzzledtraveller]

64. because they want to be

it's easy.

[n2doc]

71. Women can hate, too

Hate, envy, stupidity. Nothing about being a woman guarantees immunity from those vices. That's what the Republican party feeds on.

[Liberalynn]

98. True.

I still remember Ann Coulter saying women' s right to vote should be taken away because they vote primarily democrat.

Well Ann hate to tell you this but that means you couldn't vote either.

[liberal N proud]

77. Another mystery of life

[ZombieHorde]

78. Your confusion isn't about them, it is about the difference between

subjectivity and objectivity. Their subjective view of the world doesn't match your subjective view of the world, you don't understand how they see the world, and how they view cause and effect, so you call them names.

[Liberalynn]

106. Maybe But

If a politician came up to a person on the street and said to them, "I hate you and all of your kind, and I am going to do everything in my power to see that you and all those like you don't have any rights in your own government," how rational is it to say not only am I not going to fight you on that I'm going to help you accomplish it because that is what every vote for a Republican is doing. I can't help but be curious as to why anyone would vote for someone who openly admits they hate you and will work against you. If there are dissenters in the Republican party against racism and sexism they must be whispering because they sure as he'll aren't doing much to make themselves heard.

Then again my strongest belief is basic human rights should never be put up for a vote to begin with. We can argue about how much money should be given the Pentagon or how much should be allocated to domestic spending but we should never be allowed to deny our fellow Americans the right to vote, control their own body, or the right to marry whom they want to marry as long as it's consensual between the parties involved. I added the consensual part because some religious sects do believe they have the right to sell their children into marriage.

[ZombieHorde]

116. "I hate you and all of your kind,..."

That is not the message of the Republican Party. People who vote Republican don't think the Hobby Lobby thing is anti-women, they think it is pro-baby. You and I may not see it that way, but they see it that way.

We see them as anti-immigrant, they see themselves as pro rule of law.

We see them as homophobic, they see themselves as defenders of tradition and God's will.

We see them as being against the 99%, they see themselves as being pro jobs.

Etc., etc., etc. It's all a matter of perspective. It's all subjective.

[Liberalynn]

119. They don't use those exact words, I was being figurative, but take the

republican law maker who said "if abortion is legal than rape should be legal" or George Will saying what he did about rape victims.

What logical woman would want to belong to a party that actually elects a man like the former, or makes excuses for the latter? Does she truly trust members of her party who welcome those kind of extremists into their tent with open arms to keep she and her daughter's rights and personal body safe? Or the Republicans who blame natural disasters in this country on pro choice women and LGBT's? Or how about the ones who say AA were happier as slaves? Or those who support voter suppression because they allege there is such a high record of voting fraud among AA and Hispanics. Or the Republicans who refer to AA and Hispanic women as welfare queens and baby mommas?" Or Rush saying all women who believe in access to birth control are the s word? My word program won't even let me type that word.


I suppose that's all secret code for " I love my women, LGBT, AA, Hispanic, and other minority fellow Americans" right?

I am not saying there are not racists, sexist, bigots and extremists in the Democratic party, of course there are but normally we don't endorse them as a national party, when they make comments that show that ugliness inside them. They are usually asked to resign from public office or from the few media outlets that still have a liberal bent, etc. We also most certainly do not write the more extremist ideas into our party's national platform. The Republican's have done all these things except in most cases ask their bigots to resign. They usually settle for their traditional non apology, apology. "I'm sorry women or minorities were offended, not " I'm actually sorry for saying it or thinking it to begin with"

I am sure their are non bigoted people in the Republican party as well but if they are standing up against any of the above mentioned things they are not doing it effectively or loud enough for anyone to notice or make a difference.

In the end I guess this is another case of we will just have to agree to disagree.

[ZombieHorde]

120. I am not sure how many Republicans interpret those comments.

I wonder if I would understand better if attended a conservative church.

[SoCalDem]

81. There are "conservatives" in all parties, BUT

there are also narcissists.. If you are someone who craves attention and even adulation...or you are tv-attractive and wish for a possible media future, you might just want to attach yourself to an organization where you are so unlikely to fit, that you would be such a novelty (*cough* token) that they might just "adore" you and present you to be their "friendly" face.

If you went to a party where there were MANY like you, you would just be another face in the crowd...nothing special..

[Liberalynn]

108. That makes sense.

[JI7]

84. Self Hating , Desperately Seeking Acceptance , ashamed of their own background types

i could someone like Jindal in this because while one can be conservative he seems to go all out trying to please others. and even converting to christianity .

in some cases they are just selfish wealthy types . but i find most of the minority ones are the above.

i knew one gay guy who was a republican because his mother rejected him and she had been on welfare so he got a negative view of all people on welfare and is all about cutting welfare and shit.

[Liberalynn]

109. Kind of like a kid who joins in on the bullying so he doesn't become a target of the other bullies?

[SummerSnow]

85. All I can say is this...

'God is not partial, but in every nation, the man that fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him.' - Acts 10:34, 35



Oh but Rethugs claim they are "Christians" , but they are partial. So being Christian means to be "Christ like" so they aren't being like Christ like, so they aren't Christians. Simple.

[Liberalynn]

110. +1

[SummerSnow]

87. There are no Women, Hispanic, Black and Gay Republicans

if they are they are told to remain silent and receive their marching orders.

[Liberalynn]

111. +1

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

90. All groups have a fair amount of dumbasses and hateful dickheads. (Yes I see the

irony in my post).

[Warpy]

91. They universally see the GOP as punishing OTHER people

and certainly not upright, churchgoing people like themselves.

This is especially prevalent in the south, which would love to get NYC off its back, never mind they are the takers and NYC one of the big contributors.

[Liberalynn]

112. +1

[WhiteTara]

93. Stockholm Syndrome is my guess.

[Liberalynn]

105. +1

[AverageJoe90]

107. I dunno, probably for the same reasons.....

That a few Jews are supportive of Christian Fundies and their End Times rhetoric.....it's basically Stockholm Syndrome more than anything else.

[Liberalynn]

114. Joe Lieberman just popped into my head