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libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Is there any organized/recognized entity keeping this alive? I hope so...they deserve to be removed from profitability, if nothing else. All they have is cheap crap from China, as stated above. Cheap...cheap...did I mention cheap. Not to be confused with their prices.
marble falls
(57,157 posts)by the time I freight to buying direct form the manufacturer, HB was cheaper. I wasn't a huge account, maybe $2,000 to $3,000 a year. But I haven't spent penny one since last year over their resistance to ACA. And I've let them know why. No more Custom Cotton's tone on tones from them ever again, and nothing else, either. EVER.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)hell my favourite poster from a book called Fire Sea is in one of their frames. (it's a heavy massive frame) also made in china of course) ahh but there's this store being built within driving distance called Michaels and buying stuff for photography is hard to come by. so I'll have to give them a check. (yes those boxes are made in china and of late the label cards are so cheap nothing is printed on them anymore ) ahem the boxes from Hobby Abortion Lobby. Hobby Lobby unlike me who isn't really pro abortion and most of us aren't really pro abortion. Is very Pro Abortion!!
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Good thing I'm stocked up on both, since I won't enter their doors ever again.
I saw where they have raised the wages. I don't think the regular gals who work in our local store would get more than the fifty cent raise, as I don't think any of them are full-time. Maybe department heads like the framing area. Most of the women look like they could use health insurance.
Just sayin'.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Unless an employers owns his employees, he should have no say in their personal lives. It's the same damn attitude
woodsprite
(11,923 posts)and there is one particular item we are having a devil of a time finding (6mm eva craft foam). Hobby Lobby has it, but I'll be damned if I'm ordering it from them. I'll spend a little more getting a larger quantity of 3mm and just double up.
Squinch
(50,993 posts)are voicing their displeasure, and I imagine it would be particularly chilling for them to hear from you.
So great to read what you have written!
Always Randy
(1,060 posts)grilled onions
(1,957 posts)There is a site called Kwik Crafts and they handle 6 mm craft foam sheets.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Really stupid!
2banon
(7,321 posts)My local chains are Beverly Crafts and Michaels. I think I read that Kock brudders own Michaels, (needs to be verified) I essentially only go shop at local craft shops and only go to Beverly's if small biz's aren't carrying what I'm looking for.
Hestia
(3,818 posts)Not quite as bad as HL but right there with them. {sigh}
2banon
(7,321 posts)that came up in the 2012 elections I think, if memory serves.. thanks for the reminder!
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)but understand there are 23 in CA where I live, and 2 more planned for the Palm Springs area.
calimary
(81,437 posts)That'd be a very good thing.
I'm a crafter. I will NEVER patronize Hobby Lobby. The decision's pretty much made for me already - I don't know of any Hobby Lobby stores in SoCal. If there were, I would avoid them like the plague. There are other places to get craft supplies. You can order them online. Or visit a little local ma-'n'-pa store. Scrapbooking shops, bead stores, and ceramics places (especially those that cater to kids and kids' parties) are good starters. Hell, go to Staples or Office Depot for paper supplies and colored markers/pencils/pens/crayons and stuff. LOTS of other places to find craft supplies. Or Michael's or Joann's if you have 'em.
Hey, one day, for a "Crafty Mom" assignment in one job I had, I was tasked with a grocery store dig: go into the local supermarket and find stuff you can craft with, and then make stuff with 'em. I found, quite literally, a gold mine!!! Glues and pastes, paper - colored construction paper and plain white paper, scissors, notebooks, post-its, rulers (check the school supplies aisle), tape! Multicolor drinking straws! Popsickle sticks! Several different kinds of colored tapes as well as the clear kind. Check the housewares aisle. Shelf linings - there were rolls of it, in different colors and patterns. Plaster of Paris (for sand casting and other stuff). Sheer heaven! Even sewing kits, needles and colored thread. There were food crafting options GALORE! The flower department - pressed flowers and petals! Mosaics - beans, lentils, and peppercorns of every color. Dyes and food colorings, and you could go further - with teas and coffees and vegetables like beets that make great dyes and tintings. Eggs - blow out the insides and you have a fabulous start for crafting. I even took a big bunch of celery and cut off the bottom. Do that and then look closely at the part you just cut off. You now have a "stamp" that makes a VERY nice rose image. There's liquid starch in the detergent aisle, and paper towels, and balloons in the aisle with the cheap kids stuff and party supplies = papier mache! And during all the different holidays, there are party supplies and other silly little goo-gaws that are MEGA-useful.
You don't even need a craft store to do crafting. Craft supplies are EVERYWHERE. Take a nature walk through your neighborhood or a neighborhood where there are pine trees or trees with seed pods that drop. SCORE!!!! Every time I walk the dog, I come back with some little treasure I found. If you're near the beach - MAN!!!! Bonanza-time!
All you need is your eyes open, and your creativity turned up.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)If women cannot get contraceptives, that $30,000 could be every 2 years per employee. That is also not counting any medical problems that mother or the baby might have. Then there is the costs associated with health insurance for each of their children for possibly 26 years, although working for Hobby Lobby for that LONG is farfetched for any female employee.
goldent
(1,582 posts)They also cover sterilization which is expensive and about as contraceptive as you can get. This is driven by ideology and not money - they are family owned and don't have to answer to stockholders and are rich enough they can do what they want. This is apparent in other policies such as being closed on Sundays and paying wages above the norm for retail.
Freddie
(9,273 posts)Then if we have a little time left over from serving Lord and Master Husband and waiting on the kids, we might be able to do some artsy things with yarn and stuff so the house is pretty.
Don't think so.
bdona91078
(3 posts)It is not a question of whether one should use contraceptives or not
It is not a question as to what Hobby Lobby chooses to do
The question is whether the religious beliefs of those making the law should
negate the legal rights of those with different beliefs who must follow
their decisions.
The five supreme court justices who came down against contraceptive care in
their decision are all Catholic.
The Catholic faith is against contraceptives.
The five justices would have sinned against their faith if they allowed
contraceptive care.
In the Catholic church this is a mortal sin which could cause the 5 justices
to lose their salvation and possibly be excommunicated.
IF THEY COULD NOT VIOLATE THEIR FAITH WAS IT FAIR FOR THEM TO
MAKE A DECISION THAT IMPACTED PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT FAITHS OR
NO FAITH.
WOULD THESE JUSTICES EVER BE ABLE TO VOTE ON A SUBJECT IF THAT
VOTE WAS CONSIDERED A SIN AGAINST THEIR CHURCH AND FAITH?
THIS IS FROM CATHOLIC ANSWERS
In 1968, Pope Paul VI issued his landmark encyclical letter Humanae Vitae (Latin, "Human Life" , which reemphasized the Churchs constant teaching that it is always intrinsically wrong to use contraception to prevent new human beings from coming into existence.
The Church has always maintained the historic Christian teaching that deliberate acts of contraception are always gravely sinful, which means that it is mortally sinful if done with full knowledge and deliberate consent (CCC 1857). This teaching cannot be changed and has been taught by the Church infallibly.
Thus to avoid sinning against their faith they deprived those of other
or no faith of that part of their health care.
In Iran, decisions are made in the same way.
The religious beliefs of those making the decisions guide their actions
and what the people must follow.
So this is where we are.
The United States joins Iran in making laws based on the religious
beliefs of the judges.
Bill Donahue bdona910782000@yahoo.com
TBF
(32,085 posts)So this is where we are.
The United States joins Iran in making laws based on the religious
beliefs of the judges.
I think this is worth highlighting ... this case is about money, controlling women, and yielding to religion. I think you're spot on with your assessment. Welcome to DU.
Ilsa
(61,697 posts)They have violated the First Amendment by establishing a religion for everyone to abide by.
No? They didn't include exemptions for antidepressants and other mental health drugs that Scientologists object to.
They didn't include exemptions for Jehovahs Witnesses for blood transfusions.
They didn't exclude Viagra which is used by older men with ED. They don't inquire as to whether the ED is from a prostatectomy which leaves the man sterile, meaning sex would only be recreational.
This is a targeted attack on women of childbearing years.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)If a female teenager can understand it, adult Non-Catholic/Christian women can't????
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Isn't it interesting that the female Catholic justice didn't follow HER religion? ONLY the male Catholics did? That speaks volumes.
AllyCat
(16,216 posts)Sharia Catholicism indeed. The fact that Viagra for men s/p prostatectomy speaks volumes
King_Klonopin
(1,306 posts)All of us have "free choice", according to most religious doctrine.
The only scenario in which the Catholic Justices would be guilty
of a sin would be if they choose to use birth control THEMSELVES.
That includes condoms BTW, boys. Remember, every sperm is sacred.
Others have a right to make that decision for themselves, otherwise,
we would be living in a "nanny state" -- a Catholic nanny state, in this
case -- or a theocracy. I don't appraise any of those guys as pious or
religious. There is nothing Christ-like about them, but I do see them as
closet fascists who drool over the prospect of America becoming a
theocracy-corporatocracy. They embody the mindset of dominance, control,
hierarchy and patriarchy. Scalia is a cancer, methodically destroying the
protections of The Constitution and The Bill of Rights.
"Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's." right? Even Jesus told us it was
best to keep government and faith separate.
Delmette
(522 posts)HL might have a really hard time filling those vacant positions. I can't imagine very many men would step in and take those jobs.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Jobs aren't plentiful right now. I don't blame anyone for working for HL right now.
Delmette
(522 posts)I just wish they could all quit and leave
HL high and dry.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)decrease, or stay the same this year. A lot of people hate abortion, and view those contraceptives as abortion.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)They would be included in the SC decision.
Cha
(297,517 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)corkhead
(6,119 posts)mountain grammy
(26,644 posts)along with Scalia, Thomas, Alito, Roberts and Kennedy.
AllyCat
(16,216 posts)Before I realized there was something funny about them and the quality of their stuff was pretty bad. I have since found this wonderful quilting store a few blocks from my house. They can order almost anything I need. And I don't quilt. They offer classes. Maybe I will start.
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)DUzy!
C Moon
(12,221 posts)and to reignite the GOP's idiotic religious base.
Our wonderful SCOTUS took the baitand I'm certain they were given a nod and wink before-hand.
wryter2000
(46,076 posts)I've never shopped at a Hobby Lobby. We don't even have one around here (although one will open about 20 miles away soon). But I do shop at Michael's.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)if it's principle they'll close their stores and go back to the stone age after nobody shops there
if it's about $$$$$ the money loses from nobody shopping there there will have them so worried they'll be forced to cover it.
lets see what happens..