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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy You Don’t Know Obama Has Created 4.5 Million Jobs (& why Dems could lose in 2014-16)
Chris Matthews was ranting about this last night. Dems need more cheerleaders, less "Debby Downers"
---almost 300,000 jobs added in June;
-a near TRIPLING of the Dow since Obama took over, from 6500 in Mar 2009 to 17,000 now;
-unemployment down from 10.5% to 6.1% now.
Why You Dont Know Obama Has Created 4.5 Million Jobs
7-7-2014 Daily Beast Michael Tomasky
Do you have any idea how many more jobs Obama has created than Bush did? You dont, because liberals are less likely than conservatives to cheerlead.
The terrific June jobs report may be the signal weve been waiting for that were finally turning the psychic corner. The overall jobs number was great at 288,000, and the unemployment rate was down to 6.1 percent. But the most important number was that the employment-to-population ratio, which many economists think of as the truest measure of the jobs market, was up a bit to 59 percent, a high for the recovery, indicating that maybe more people are finally out looking for work than staying home.
A lot of liberals puzzle over why the Obama administration isnt getting more credit, or doesnt do a better job of making sure it gets credit, for such good economic news. There are a lot of theories, and most of them hold varying amounts of water. But the main reason to me is fairly obvious: Liberals dont speak as one big fat propagandistic voice on this subject in remotely the same way conservatives do when a Republican president is in power.
Before I get into all that, I want to review some numbers with you, because unless youre a hyper-informed political junkie, I doubt you know them. How many net jobs has the economy created during Barack Obamas presidency, and how many did it create during George W. Bushs tenure? Notice first that I wrote has the economy created rather than did Obama create/did Bush create. I think its a better description of reality.
I also should note that I just measured the numbers under each presidentI gave Bush the numbers from January 2001 to December 2008, and Obama the numbers from January 2009 to the present, with the following asterisk. January 2009 was when Obama became president, but he didnt start until the 20th, of course. That was a particularly awful month, with 798,000 jobs lost. So I think its reasonable to give Bush, whose policies helped cause the meltdown anyway, two-thirds of that 798,000. (January 2001, by the way, was a tiny number, 30,000 jobs lost, but just to be consistent, I assigned only 10,000 of those to Bush.)
Imagine that a Republican president produced 45 straight months of job growth coming off the worst financial crisis since the Depression. Lord, wed never hear the end of it.
Here are Bushs numbers: Its 8.657 million jobs gained, and 7.121 million jobs lost, for a net job-creation number of 1.536 million. Pathetic. Its interesting to look back over the numbers from 2001. The economy stank. The month of 9/11, we lost 242,000 jobs. Want to ascribe that just to the attacks? In August, wed lost 158,000. The decent Bush years were 2004, 2005, 2006, and part of 2007, but even then the numbers were hoppy and inconsistent: 307,000 jobs added in May 2004 and just 74,000 in June, for instance.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/07/why-you-don-t-know-obama-has-created-6-5-million-jobs.html
ismnotwasm
(42,417 posts)This shouldn't drop. It's an interesting potential conversation, and an important point
IronLionZion
(46,844 posts)and they will hire up all the best people and offer the best wages and benefits, and the conservative businesses will be left trying to hire people by offering the usual low wages and crappy benefits to be "efficient".
It would be great to see a strong economy dominated by liberal employers who value their people.
As it is, blue states are mostly doing much better than red states.
ismnotwasm
(42,417 posts)Then we could start moving forward
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)From my very small pulpit.
I like to credit the Democratic Party though, and not just one man. It is about the policies, not the person. Policies that Democrats in Congress voted for. And it is Democrats who are running for office in 2014 - not Obama.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)only that the rich are getting richer.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)I guess you didn't catch that in the OP. . .
MineralMan
(147,299 posts)That's how we win. Give them the information they need to get them to the polls.
Not involved in GOTV? Why not?
malaise
(277,303 posts)Response to ErikJ (Original post)
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B Calm
(28,762 posts)and blame Obama!