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NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025192877
I hope she is well.
blm
(114,642 posts)Especially on the internet. I hope she is well and only on vacation with her family....with no internet.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Hope all is okay with her.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)mike_c
(37,045 posts)eom
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)And my feed has been delightfully free of circular blue-links...
dixiegrrrrl
(60,157 posts)the member goes Poof!!!!! back to DU 2?????
I might a bit weak on the actual physics of that works....
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)many years ago
trumad
(41,692 posts)My post wasn't in the spirit of the OP who is being nice.
Response to mike_c (Reply #5)
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AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)I can understand that not everybody may agree with her, but I've never seen anything from her, that, in my honest opinion, could possibly warrant such.
I've put a few people on ignore myself, but that was only for being complete jerks, or looney, etc.
mike_c
(37,045 posts)I just got tired of her relentlessly persistent defense of the indefensible.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)ProSense has done nothing of the sort, from what I can tell.
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)So TRUE!! She sticks to facts & does not get personal with people even when they do with her. People don't like structured arguments they can't just blow off with a snarky comment...This really bothers many here on DU & that is sad.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)While I like his positions on some issues, and I admire him on a personal level, the flaws in his policies (and there are many) must be pointed out as well. I dislike the "cheerleader" label as much as anyone, but sometimes it's not unjustified.
That said, I don't have ProSense - or anyone else - on ignore. I've never personally seen the need for that function.
irisblue
(37,434 posts)Seriously, if Prosense is ignored, do threads with Prosenses' name still show up?
mike_c
(37,045 posts)I'm surprised that some people seem so touchy about this. The IGNORE feature is there for just this reason, so that DUers who are generally disinterested in whatever someone has to say can simply edit them out of their DU experience. Prosense got on my last nerve a long time ago, so rather than engage in arguing with her, I simply ignore her. Better for my blood pressure, and I presume her's as well.
irisblue
(37,434 posts)~huh~ seems a bit of a flaw in the ignore function. Again thanks.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)If you ignore a particular person, you won't see their posts.
If you ignore by keyword, you won't see any posts that contain that keyword.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Response to SwampG8r (Original post)
hrmjustin This message was self-deleted by its author.
Revoked on Jul 9, 2014
Reason: Troll.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)"fair, balanced, equal equivalence" house-cleaning going on? Two widely followed, polar opposites, gone in two days.
fishwax
(29,346 posts)I followed the quinnox drama but missed whoever else was banned.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)fishwax
(29,346 posts)she was maybe taking a vacation--from real life, DU, or both
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5219813
DURHAM D
(33,053 posts)our long DU nightmare is over.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)...it would be thoughtful if you would tell us all (who didn't see that post) who you are discussing.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)mylye2222
(2,992 posts)DURHAM D
(33,053 posts)clearly you have not kept up. Or, perhaps you are partial to racist and sexist trolls.
ETA: I just noticed the timing on your post and I would bet my house you don't even know who was the subject of the deleted post that I responded to.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)If that's what passes for liberalism then we're all in deep shit.
DURHAM D
(33,053 posts)I think that capital L is a play on words in that I believe he is/was one of many Libertarians who have settled in on DU.
Here is a pretty good description/discussion of what they are about - http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025216329#post166
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)I assumed that person had been posting a lot more...always saw his/her posts here.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Since I feel, even with my posts, I don't think it completely accurate, the count mentioned in my profile.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Trying to hit 50K..wonder if I already have if the accounting system is flawed!
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)2003... I still feel like a noob here.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)We loathed Bush and were united!
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I moved to commongroundcommonsense before it went out of service.
I moved here a few months after it went kaput since I needed another forum site.
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SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)you cant keep from trying to stir up some shit?
why don't you go post a nice grave dancing thread of your own instead of doing this?
this thread is a thread about grudgingly earned respect for a fellow poster with whom I often disagree and concern for their absence
you know just because someone puts out a punchbowl doesn't mean you have to rush to put a turd in it.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Sorry but I don't feel for him. He said some real crappy things and was called out on it.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)this thread is about someone else
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 9, 2014, 03:57 PM - Edit history (1)
Fyi for those who are curious it was about another poster and not prosense.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)I was hoping this would just be a best wishes if needed thread
but I look at the responses and I am saddened
I bet the road to hell really is paved with good intentions
I don't know if I should self delete it or just let it go on so maybe some here can see how......damn I don't have a word for less mature than childish......they are
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)If she is not back by mid july then I would worry.
Might be good idea to ask people who know her here if her twitter or facebook page is active.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Sometimes, being rational and levelheaded doesn't always make one a lot of friends. And yet, she's always been able to stick out for what she believes in.....and the facts that support her view. And I respect her for that.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)that's the problem ... it's the inventing terms, the falsely attributed support, the general "My vicariously experienced opinion equals your lived experience" posts that earn you scorn.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Only 2 hides. One of his hides (the "I asked" thread) was in a 106 post thread where I can only see about 20 posts. Who was trolling who here?
Didn't know it had come to that yet!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)That is an understatement.
Cha
(318,800 posts)the radar until the eleventh hour!
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)though I honestly suspect he really did flame out at that point.
BootinUp
(51,267 posts)A post with input was deleted! If i were not a robot I would be crying.

AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)In any case, my final word on the matter, is, I don't doubt that he may truly have gone off the deep end. It does happen. But I just don't know.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Hopefully reconsidering what ideals they are supporting.
Cha
(318,800 posts)she was paid by the Obama admin? "Reconsidering"? She has nothing to reconsider.. she's into reality which is more than I can say for those who constantly whine about her.
bigtree
(94,179 posts). . . this one should be voted down too, although I would hope the poster would, themselves, reconsider their comment.
Cha
(318,800 posts).. so ugly he got himself a hide. thanks for that, bigtree. They never learn.
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5216397
sheshe2
(97,419 posts)Cha
(318,800 posts)our Midterm Elections!
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)blm
(114,642 posts)too bad...she's a very earnest person and a wonderfully warm human being.
She also doesn't give a flying fvck whether or not her posts are popular or not.
but getting swamped with a bunch of links that I in no way have time to wade through all of, generally doesn't help to clarify my understanding of an issue. That's just me, anyway.
blm
(114,642 posts)She's pretty thorough. I personally LOVE accuracy-fetish types and wish there was a news network that employed some of its practitioners. ; )
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)Yiu on the side of Warren to expose corporations. And ProSense for her loyal support of real Progress.
G_j
(40,568 posts)I guess my style is different. Yes, she would be a benefit to the Dem party. She definitely has a political bend.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)I keed, I keed. I was kinda wondering the same thing yesterday when I realized her posting volume had gone nearly to zero.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,996 posts)Snark very much intended.
William769
(59,147 posts)How would you feel if it was you, people were worried about?
I hope she is well and just on vacation.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)When the best folks can come up with is that you provide too much factual backup, you are doing alright in my book.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...but simply more regurgitation of the same old tired talking-points....
Your mileage obviously varies....
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,996 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)I don't fault Prosense for posting links to relevant information.
What Prosense has been criticized for his simple misdirection, posting links to lengthy articles and posts that are completely irrelevant to the subject being discussed-- and almost always to her own threads. Nice way to up your search engine footprint, but I can see no other reason for doing so besides a desire to derail discussion.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)And like all of Prosense's detractors, you attempt to cast aspersions using any method you can other than addressing the facts directly, because you can't.
Marr
(20,317 posts)Try it sometime. And be critically honest. Most of them link to nothing relevant to the point under discussion, and actually seem intentionally designed to waste time and misdirect energy.
tkmorris
(11,138 posts)Don't be absurd. If you have links to facts you post the links to the facts, you don't post links to your own posts which contain links to your own posts which may, or may not, contain links somewhere within to some bloggers opinion on an alleged fact.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)She had a single post where she had the relevant links and she linked back to that post in any future replies. There is nothing wrong with that.
Folks who don't like it simply objected to being proven wrong.
tkmorris
(11,138 posts)She would often flood a post with links (plural, as in dozens) that led nowhere but to her own posts elsewhere on DU, which themselves often contained no facts but yet still MORE links which led... who knows where.
*I* didn't like it and it isn't because I didn't like being proved wrong. Usually I didn't disagree with whatever point she was making, or at least had little to no opinion on it; but the methods she used to make her argument were, and still are, ridiculous.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...spouting endless talking points, cherry-picking obscure facts, and using torturous logic to justify the unjustifiable...
There's a really good reason she's on so many people's ignore lists...
But sure, go with whatever makes you feel good...
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)on her post during the Bush era roundly criticizing the NSA and saying those action could never be mage legal, only to of course defend the exact same actions under Obama.
She tried to justify her complete reversal through links. I read through the links --twice-- in their entirety. They led absolutely no where, at least no where that had anything to do with domestic spying, the NSA, etc. Pure misdirection
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)trying to give her the benefit of the doubt - I followed all the links, and then the links within the links she had posted. As you say, they led nowhere, they didn't make any point and most of the time, they were completely off topic. IMO, they are a tactic to distract and delay you so she can get more posts in.
Yeah, the whole NSA hypocrisy was crazy too.
frylock
(34,825 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)I think it's pretty funny.
Cha
(318,800 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)It was self-referential or extremely selective or opinion.
There is a difference between opinion and fact. Omission is misleading. Referring back to things you've said is not usually fact based.
In my opinion people are easily bamboolzed by lots of links. That's not necessarily evidence for one's position.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)It reminds me of people who use a lot of big words to try to impress people and show that they know a lot about the subject at hand. It will impress most people, but those who actually know the subject will be able to see right through the attempt.
840high
(17,196 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(178,945 posts)SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)my concern is real
I too hope she is on a nice vacation and nothing has happened to her or her family
William769
(59,147 posts)It was directed at some of the responses.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)Some can't help but be mean spirited no matter what. Disappointing to see here.
Thanks for speaking up.
Julie
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)about people they don't like
and often don't like people who are on the other team
especially after a number of contests.
Cha
(318,800 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Cha
(318,800 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,499 posts)The vocal minority has quite the reach here in the vitriol these days unfortunately.
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Sid
morningfog
(18,115 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)I notice the other day she hadn't been around for a bit. I hope it's just a vacation.
I admit I had my differences with Prosense during primary season but I hope he/she returns definitely.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Response to SwampG8r (Original post)
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Blue_Adept
(6,499 posts)I dunno if that's one of the best play on phrases to work with.
bigtree
(94,179 posts). . . if so, you should be ashamed.
Cha
(318,800 posts)clever.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Slanted on the Administration's favor.
Not that there is anything wrong with that. I mean, it is nice to read her posts as, even if I don't always agree with it, it is always informative.
I hope she is well.
greatlaurel
(2,020 posts)Hope she is back soon.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)There is very little ProSense and I agree on but she is at least cordial and respectful, though woefully wrong. I do not have her on ignore as I do others that are wrong and rude.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)ProSense was Richard Mellon Scaife
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/richard-mellon-scaife-death-108573.html
FSogol
(47,608 posts)make sure all was well.
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Trajan
(19,089 posts)I didn't appreciate her obvious slant in favor of this Democratic President, no matter how UN-Democratic Party-like the President's policies may be ...
I hope all is well, but I don't miss the propaganda ...
Signed,
Obama Voter - 2008-2012
Let me guess where you got that from ...
Let's just say; I am underwhelmed by that list ... some were De facto GOP policies, while others were weakly ' Liberal ' ...
I don't agree with half of our Democratic caucus already due to their latent conservative positions ... Obama gets no pass ... no fluff ... from me ...
Peddle your nonsense to somebody else ...
Cha
(318,800 posts)aren't for you..

Trajan
(19,089 posts)ANY reasonably Liberal Democrat could have done the same and more (disregarding for the moment the completely dysfunctional House of Representatives)
The Health Care plan, as wonderful as you may believe it to be, is actually identical to a republican plan from the past ... while I appreciate the benefits it provides for those who desperately needed ANY insurance ... it is largely a giveaway to Insurance companies ... not exactly what Liberals would have wanted ...
The economy is 'saved' because the previous insanity has been removed ... the method and means of that saving has been a heartbreaking loss for all Americans, as trillions of tax dollars were wasted in order to prop up a dysfunctional financial system that defrauded the public both before AND after the 'saving' ... I would presume ANY Democrat would have done the same thing ...
The deification and hagiographic pronouncements about Obama are bizarre and unwarranted ...
I voted TWICE for this man, and I love him in many ways ... but I do NOT pray to him ...
I am a Democrat ... not an Obamacrat ...
Cha
(318,800 posts)there for us.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)We're done
Cha
(318,800 posts)
Alex Dooley of Denver, who had written to President Barack Obama thanking him for talking about raising the minimum wage and her boss doing so, introduces the president before he spoke about the economy
TOD
Trajan
(19,089 posts)You know, when the President held the promise of ruling as a Liberal ...
Too bad our hopes for a Democratic President were dashed ...
You consider this 'progress'? ... what a silly statement ...
Cha
(318,800 posts)
The White House ✔ @WhiteHouse
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TOD

OilemFirchen
(7,288 posts)Well, that's a mite bit strange...
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)Her vocal opposition...well, who really knows where their motivations are? It is an anonymous posting board, after all.
Hope she's enjoying her time away from DU.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Cha
(318,800 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Prosense seems to have the passion.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(178,945 posts)Sadly, I see plenty of that in this thread. I hope that she's enjoying a nice vacation.
Cha
(318,800 posts)I hope she's getting some nice R&R Gearing up for 2014 Midterms!
It's Texas4obama who I'm concerned about. There was a thread about her missing from DU not too long ago and I PMed her but nothing.
Another prolific poster who supports President Obama! The nerve!
greatauntoftriplets
(178,945 posts)In fact, I checked just yesterday to see if she had posted recently. No.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Not fun at all.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)I'm guessing she went somewhere to disconnect and enjoy a vacation.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025192877
JI7
(93,558 posts)so i assume she is ok and hopefully having some fun .
sheshe2
(97,419 posts)However, she had been absent for awhile before that. I hope she is just taking some down time.
riqster
(13,986 posts)I don't always agree with her, but she writes well and provides backup for her positions.
bluedigger
(17,433 posts)Given the timing (July 3rd) I would hope she is taking some time off. I'm neither a fan nor a hater, but Prosense is a notable member and contributor to DU, and I look forward to her participation resuming soon. Maybe those who are rushing to condemn her could use a breather of their own.
herding cats
(20,047 posts)I was thinking she may be on vacation or something since her last post was on a Thursday before a holiday.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Response to SwampG8r (Original post)
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KamaAina
(78,249 posts)A nation turns its lonely eyes to you...
sheshe2
(97,419 posts)I miss ProSense and hope she is well.
Sadly, other posters here feel the need to dump on her in a childish manner.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)Lots and lots of hating on Democrats and other rightwingery around here lately.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)All of this kind of stuff REALLY makes DU suck sometimes.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Yet you insist on repeating it OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
Who are the fringe far-leftists in your little world?
The doomers, the radfems, and people who insist that yes, white privilege exists.
In other words, the liberal base.
You think these are the people who make DU suck.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Radfems & climate doomers a la GuyMcPherson are hardly the base. Mainstream feminists? People of Color? People who actually want to mitigate Climate Change? Now they are part of the base, and I happen to be two of these(with the exception of the middle, of course).
(And, for the record, do realize that I haven't had a problem with *everybody* who believes in "white privilege". It's only been those who've been total assholes about it, in about 90% of cases in which I've said something.)
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)No.
Are Andrea Dworkin and Louis Farrakhan members here?
No and no.
So then why do you think THEY're what's wrong with DU and not people like your friend quinnox?
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)
So then why do you think THEY're what's wrong with DU and not people like your friend quinnox?
Didn't say or imply that quinnox was my "friend". In fact, I'm not so sure about the guy myself, especially if some of these accusations of prior malfeasance(before his recent flameout, that is.) turn out to be true.
Doesn't really change what I pointed out, however.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Cha
(318,800 posts)the rw and other assorted assholes outta the water for the 2014 Midterm Elections.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)or some of her takes on current events (for example, the NSA scandal).
She's tough as nails, committed, fair, tireless. A very REAL fierce advocate for just about every Democratic constituency.
It's the middle of summer folks - she's probably enjoying it, as she should. Plenty of time for serious brainstorming after Labor Day.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)She has done a lot of good stuff on this site. Probably one of the best posters around, IMO.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Two posts in particular. Won't mention who because the alert Gestapo are thick in this thread, but damn those two had me laughing.
bigtree
(94,179 posts). . . do you think it's alright to call her a whore, as someone did on this thread? Was that funny to you? Do you think that post deserved alerting on?
This thread 'delivers' unabashed hatred.
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)And why all those crapy post insulting her????
Yet because she has opinions wich doesnt feet the mainstram of DU insnt it?
Poor schoolyard bullies some are they here.....
Luckily the tread's lever is raised up again by good people anyway....
Matariki
(18,775 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Best wishes to her.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Very informative posts.
Autumn
(48,950 posts)Perhaps on vacation .
it does seem odd though.
montanacowboy
(6,710 posts)good
brer cat
(27,559 posts)I hope she is on vacation or taking a break from DU. She doesn't need the crap that is being heaped on her in this thread.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)In fact I rarely agree with her. But I have to say she takes more shit than anybody else here and she does it with grace and dignity.
I have nothing but praise for her.
Cha
(318,800 posts)Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)which is all I think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.
reddread
(6,896 posts)but anyone who can post over 100 times in 24 hours, deserves a break.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)steve2470
(37,481 posts)I like her links to factual material.
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)Yes, she has been targeted more than once. Along with blm, and both are precious posters who took great time of they to come here and teach us important facts.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)My delusions are shattered.

WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)(offered as humor...ProSense drives me out of my tree some(most)times, but she is a valued and valuable member of this community, and maybe the best Democrat on the board, for what that's worth)
deutsey
(20,166 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Oh wait, that wouldn't make any sense.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)you alleged progressives never disappoint.
steve2470
(37,481 posts)SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)I was worried for you hope all is well. This thread was not intended to go where it ended up.
i hope you are getting a good laugh at it all
Number23
(24,544 posts)you live in a lot of people's heads around here. Judging by the posts, I'm really sorry it's not a better neighborhood.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Skittles
(171,556 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)200 times the Prosense Fanclub used it. What makes you think this time is different?
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Does anyone have the guts to post the jury explanations for these hides?
Honestly, it's past time for jury results to be posted openly on DU. And for the identity of the alerter to be provided as well.
This is getting really stupid.

