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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHonduran refugee children are fleeing a right wing coup Hillary supported.
Support for Iraq intervention and Isis in Syria aren't Hillary's only foreign policy fubars. She was also an active supporter of the Pinochet like dictators that took over Honduras in 2009.
From a recent Consortium News Interview with Adrienne Pine:
Hillary Clinton was probably the most important actor in supporting the coup in Honduras. In part, perhaps, one would assume because one of her best friends from law school, Lanny Davis, who had actually run her campaign for a while, her presidential campaign against Obama, was hired immediately following the coup by the most powerful business group in the country, that supported the coup, as the representative for the Micheletti coup government in Washington.
In that capacity he was able to organize hearings in Congress through his friend, Eliot Engel, who at the time was the head of the congressional committee for Western Hemisphere Affairs, and he was able to directly have Hillary Clintons ear. And, what that meant was that whereas the initial signals from the White House, from Obama were that yes indeed this was a coup and that this was illegal, and that the coup administration wouldnt be recognized.
Hillary Clinton was able to veto that position, in effect, and alongside her friend, Lanny Davis, and the State Department took a couple of months to even admit that a coup had happened. But they made this, theretofore unknown differentiation saying that this had not been a military coup, it had just been a regular coup. Its a difference that didnt make much sense. The military, in effect, had carried out the coup.
Hillary Clinton played a huge role in propping up the coup administration. And it was the State Department that went against the Organization of American States, which actually has had a positive impact hemisphere-wide in that it provoked the creation of CELAC [Community of Latin American and Caribbean States] which is the new, sort of parallel organization of OAS that excludes the U.S. and Canada because they have had such a negative impact within the OAS, of really pushing back against the progressive governments in the region, that want to have a different kind of relationship with the north, and not just be in the sort of ongoing imperialism.
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http://consortiumnews.com/2014/07/12/why-the-honduran-children-flee-north/
At least half the children come from Honduras. Many of the drug gangs that threaten them prop up this government.
cali
(114,904 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)I dont honestly know, I am not familiar.
I would like to see a report done by Greg Palast
cali
(114,904 posts)the cut, imo.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)bigtree
(85,996 posts)The U.S. might have been ineffective in restoring the former president to power, but it's a curious argument to claim they 'interfered.' I can just imagine the articles that we'd be reading if they had not tried.
Good luck with this crapola.
Unrec. this is not the article to read if you're interested in what happened in Honduras since 2009 and want to know the extent of the administration response. That will take some extensive and careful reading, I guarantee anyone.
I see where one poster signaled the questioning of the source. Of course it should be questioned. Who knows what its bias is? Whatever its motive, it tells a woefully incomplete story; one that I have to say, can't be debated with this low level of garbled info provided in this article.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)part of the article, but what they claim about Hillary is otherwise is pretty spot on. She is the one in question here.
bigtree
(85,996 posts). . . most prominent thing missing is the administration's protests of the coup and their actual brokering of a deal to return the ousted president to power.
I'm not sure what you or this article think the administration could have done differently, but one glaring problem with THIS article you posted is their complaint of U.S. interference. They can't have it both ways. One argument they make says the U.S. could have done something - then the opposite is argued, that they shouldn't have interfered. This article is crapola.
WaPo:
President Obama said yesterday that the military ouster of Honduran President Manuel Zelaya was illegal and could set a "terrible precedent," but Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the United States government was holding off on formally branding it a coup, which would trigger a cutoff of millions of dollars in aid to the impoverished Central American country.
Clinton's statement appeared to reflect the U.S. government's caution amid fast-moving events in Honduras, where Zelaya was detained and expelled by the military on Sunday. The United States has joined other countries throughout the hemisphere in condemning the coup. But leaders face a difficult task in trying to restore Zelaya to office in a nation where the National Congress, military and Supreme Court have accused him of attempting a power grab through a special referendum.
U.S. officials had tried ahead of time to avert the coup, warning the Honduran military and politicians against suspending democratic order. The U.S. ambassador to Honduras, Hugo Llorens, sheltered one of Zelaya's children to prevent him from being harmed, according to Carlos Sosa, Honduras's ambassador to the Organization of American States.
But the Obama administration has had cool relations with Zelaya, a close ally of Venezuela's anti-American president, Hugo Chávez. While U.S. officials say they continue to recognize Zelaya as president, they have not indicated they are willing to use the enormous U.S. clout in the country to force his return.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/29/AR2009062904239.html
Democracy Now:
Goodman: . . . WikiLeaks released that trove of U.S. government cables, and in it was a cable from then-U.S. ambassador the then-U.S. ambassador to Honduras to the State Department, saying that I think it was titled "Open and Shut: The Case of the Honduran Coup," and it was saying it was illegal, it was unconstitutional. It was written by U.S. Ambassador Hugo Llorens.
Don't ignore the republican's role . . .
U.S. officials and Latin American leaders condemned the coup, and Honduras was suspended from the Organization of American States. But conservative lawmakers in the United States defended the coup as necessary to rescue Honduran democracy.
Zelayas attempts to return after the coup were blocked, but he eventually sneaked back into the country and took refuge in the Brazilian Embassy for several months. He then went into exile in the Dominican Republic, but with a new Honduran president, Porfirio Lobo, in office, Zelaya was allowed to return in 2011.
_____ On June 28th, 2009, Honduran President Manuel Zelaya was deposed in a military coup. Zelaya had faced widespread criticism for attempting to extend presidential term limits by holding a constitutional referendum, which the Supreme Court had ruled was illegal. A group of countries, including the United States and Venezuelaan unlikely alliance, signed a resolution condemning the actions of the Honduran military and demanded that Zelaya be reinstated as president. The U.S. suspended military and development aid to Honduras after the coup. Roberto Micheletti, with the backing of the Honduran Congress, courts, and army, assumed leadership of the country. Zelaya, on the other hand, had the support of most of Latin America's leftist governments, including the leaders of Argentina, Ecuador, and Venezuela.
Zelaya attempted to return to his country by plane on July 5, but he found a closed runway and well-armed Honduran troops on the ground waiting for him. In Sept., Zelaya secretly returned to Honduras, taking refuge in the Brazilian embassy. Micheletti responded by temporarily cutting off power and water to the embassy, suspending constitutional freedoms, and shuttering a television channel and a radio station. The moves met widespread criticism from within Honduras and abroad, and Micheletti rescinded his restrictions.
The U.S. brokered an agreement between Zelaya and Micheletti in late October that left Zelaya's reinstatement up to a Congressional vote, called for the establishment of a government of national unity and a truth commission, and required Zelaya to abandon a referendum on constitutional reform. The accord, however, fell apart within days, as Micheletti reportedly attempted to form a government that did not include Zelaya.
In November presidential elections, Porfirio Lobo, the candidate of the conservative National Party, defeated Elvin Santos, who represented the Liberal Party, 56% to 38%. Zelaya refused to recognize the results of the election. In December, Congress rejected a plan to allow Zelaya to return to office. Lobo took office in January 2010, thus ending seven months of political turmoil.
On May 28, 2011, nearly two years after he was ousted in a court- and legislature-backed coup, Manuel Zelaya returned to his home country. As part of a prearranged deal, prosecutors dropped corruption and constitution violation charges against the former president and Honduras was readmitted to the Organization of American States (OAS).
http://www.infoplease.com/country/honduras.html?pageno=3
malaise
(268,998 posts)outside of Costa Rica? Which of the coups???
Look this is the result of US foreign policy - legal and illegal over more than a century.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)It is currently the only government that is smelly from a democratic point of view.
malaise
(268,998 posts)There was one in Egypt as well.
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TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)And if it is already fucked up then we'll crank it up to eleven.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)I need to start working on that as a pet project