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abakan

(1,819 posts)
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 12:58 PM Jul 2014

Paul Krugman: California proves the GOP’s “extremist ideology … is nonsense”

Source: Salon

In his latest column for the New York Times, award-winning economist and best-selling author Paul Krugman argues that California’s recent success — and Kansas’ ongoing failure — is yet more proof that conservative anti-tax dogma “is nonsense.”

After citing Justice Brandeis’ famous claim that America’s states are laboratories for democracy, Krugman turns to compare and contrast California and Kansas, noting that while the former state has seen economic growth and a successful implementation of Obamacare, the latter has had a stagnant economy and a ballooning deficit.

Not incidentally, these states decided to take opposite approaches to economic policy, with California embracing “a modestly liberal agenda of higher taxes, spending increases and a rise in the minimum wage” while Kansas “went all-in on supply-side economics, slashing taxes on the affluent” only to see paltry growth and a darkening fiscal picture.

“If tax increases are causing a major flight of jobs from California, you can’t see it in the job numbers,” Krugman writes. “Employment is up 3.6 percent in the past 18 months, compared with a national average of 2.8 percent; at this point, California’s share of national employment, which was hit hard by the bursting of the state’s enormous housing bubble, is back to pre-recession levels.”

more: http://www.salon.com/2014/07/25/paul_krugman_california_proves_the_gops_extremist_ideology_is_nonsense/

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Paul Krugman: California proves the GOP’s “extremist ideology … is nonsense” (Original Post) abakan Jul 2014 OP
If the Democratic Party doesn't make this tale of two states Exhibit #1 ... Martin Eden Jul 2014 #1
I'll take #2 for the win, Martin BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #2
Belief in the "liberal bias" of news media is the problem. ieoeja Jul 2014 #3
Bingo. I quote these facts to my far right friends all the time Ishoutandscream2 Jul 2014 #4
Yes, but Dems can counter this with P.R. and paid advertising ... as of now, Auggie Jul 2014 #5
Was looking for good news and Bingo! SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2014 #6
To hear Timothy Draper tell it California is in terrible shape rickyhall Jul 2014 #7
he's just trying to divide up the electoral college. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2014 #8

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
1. If the Democratic Party doesn't make this tale of two states Exhibit #1 ...
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 01:10 PM
Jul 2014

... then the Democratic Party is either clueless or complicit.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
2. I'll take #2 for the win, Martin
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 02:06 PM
Jul 2014

You don't get to the national level without a lot of help from your "friends".

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
3. Belief in the "liberal bias" of news media is the problem.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 02:31 PM
Jul 2014

Fox News and Hate Radio couple total outstanding debt with old deficit numbers for California. Republicans repeat those numbers.

Do not be surprised at all if the Republicans take this advice and make the election about those two states. Because they know an extremely large percentage believe the factoids provided by the Fair and Balanced media.

And it isn't just Teabaggers. I know plenty of people who reason that Fox News could not possibly be lying all the time. When someone on ABC, CBS or NBC gets a news story wrong, they lose their job. Fox News is not firing people, therefore they must not be lying.

Ishoutandscream2

(6,661 posts)
4. Bingo. I quote these facts to my far right friends all the time
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 03:00 PM
Jul 2014

And the facts come from unbiased sources. Nevertheless, they poo-poo the facts because they come from the "librul media". Only Fox and talk radio state the real facts!

Auggie

(31,163 posts)
5. Yes, but Dems can counter this with P.R. and paid advertising ... as of now,
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 03:09 PM
Jul 2014

they're pretty silent.

I've been at a loss to understand the reasoning.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
6. Was looking for good news and Bingo!
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 03:43 PM
Jul 2014

Sitting here in CA we hear very little in the media of Jerry Brown. He's like the invisible man. Apparently he's just stealth because Gavin Newsom, his Lt. Governor, has nothing to do and has come up with his own theories in his free time a la "Citizenville".

http://citizenville.com/

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
7. To hear Timothy Draper tell it California is in terrible shape
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 04:32 PM
Jul 2014

But he's just another billionaire who hates poor people.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
8. he's just trying to divide up the electoral college.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 05:48 PM
Jul 2014

That's the only way Republicans can ever win the White House again. (well that and preventing the "47%" from voting&quot .

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