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FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 01:54 PM Apr 2012

Nebraska's New Abortion Law Forced Mother to Give Birth at 22 Weeks and Watch Baby Die

The law, which took effect last October, is based on the disputed argument that a baby’s nerves are developed enough to feel pain at the 20 week stage.

In a letter urging Governor Jan Brewer to veto the bill which which bans abortions after 20 weeks Danielle Deaver,34, of Grand Island, described the pain of waiting to give birth to a baby she knew would die.

‘While we waited, we tried to pray, but we didn’t know what to pray for. So we spent our days and nights telling our daughter how much we loved her, how sorry we were, and how we wished we could do something different.

‘There are no words for how awful the 10 days were from the moment my water broke to the day my daughter died. There are no words for the heart break that cut deeper every time she moved inside of me for those 10 days,’ she wrote.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/page/273733_Nebraskas_New_Abortion_Law_For

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Nebraska's New Abortion Law Forced Mother to Give Birth at 22 Weeks and Watch Baby Die (Original Post) FarLeftFist Apr 2012 OP
Little Green Footballs? anti-alec Apr 2012 #1
Here are some other links... uppityperson Apr 2012 #4
Criticizes source rather than message. Cerridwen Apr 2012 #5
Charles Johnson and LGF have been coming into the light lately KamaAina Apr 2012 #13
Little green footballs . . . Richard D Apr 2012 #20
I'd have thought the same thing, but Little Green Footballs is completely different now renate Apr 2012 #21
The damn politicians need to at least take and pass a First Aid course before passing medical laws RC Apr 2012 #2
"Danielle Deaver Denied Abortion Even as Uterus Crushed Fetus" Cerridwen Apr 2012 #3
The legislature wants to make the decisions? Make them stay in the room with the mother. aquart Apr 2012 #6
You have NO IDEA how much they'd enjoy being there, or you wouldn't make such a suggestion saras Apr 2012 #17
Why on earth are women being told clydefrand Apr 2012 #7
Men still have to get someone in the medical class... seattleblah Apr 2012 #10
as it should be noiretextatique Apr 2012 #12
You mean men have to go to a doctor to get a vasectomy? Well, duh. Very inaccurate comparison uppityperson Apr 2012 #23
Actuallly I was referring to the rape drug viagra... seattleblah Apr 2012 #27
Men have to go to a doc to get viagra? Still an invalid comparison. uppityperson Apr 2012 #28
Horrible! GreenPartyVoter Apr 2012 #8
They don't care ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #9
This law will eventually kill someone. And they still won't care... Kalidurga Apr 2012 #11
Unfortunately you are probably right - someone will die and "they" won't care Iris Apr 2012 #14
Um, new here, but am a little confused.... TinkerTot55 Apr 2012 #15
It is confusing, I have a hypothesis. Geoff R. Casavant Apr 2012 #16
heres a good link that may cut down on your confusion. William769 Apr 2012 #18
( Thanks! ) TinkerTot55 Apr 2012 #19
They care f*ckall about how much pain.. 99Forever Apr 2012 #22
I'm confused. Why would/how could Jan Brewer veto a Nebraska bill? WillowTree Apr 2012 #24
DISPUTE over fetal pain at 20 weeks? Disputed by whom? A bunch of fruitcakes? Zalatix Apr 2012 #25
There are no words to describe the amount of harm, pain, and suffering being inflicted upon our indepat Apr 2012 #26
yep, you basically said it all. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2012 #29
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
13. Charles Johnson and LGF have been coming into the light lately
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 03:50 PM
Apr 2012

That's where I first learned that Faux News* commenters were dropping N-bombs left and right after Whitney Houston died.

renate

(13,776 posts)
21. I'd have thought the same thing, but Little Green Footballs is completely different now
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 04:32 PM
Apr 2012

I only found that out a few weeks ago--I think by following a link that had been posted here on DU, actually. I think the commenters are different now, too (at least it seems that way from the limited number of threads I've read over there).

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
2. The damn politicians need to at least take and pass a First Aid course before passing medical laws
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 02:07 PM
Apr 2012

and other wise practicing medicine without a license.

Cerridwen

(13,262 posts)
3. "Danielle Deaver Denied Abortion Even as Uterus Crushed Fetus"
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 02:10 PM
Apr 2012

From abcnews:


http://abcnews.go.com/Health/20-week-abortion-ban-nebraska-oklahoma-fetus-feel/story?id=13116214

<big snip>

In her case, Danielle Deaver insisted, "We didn't want an abortion."

She said her doctors consulted attorneys about exceptions in the law because of the risk of infection that might destroy her chances of ever getting pregnant again.

"What we wanted," she said, "was our labor induced so that I would go into labor and give birth to her and the outcome of her life would not have been different."

"My health was at risk, as well," she added. "We decided going forward it (premature labor) would be inevitable and we wanted nature to take its course. We were told we couldn't do that."

<more bit snip>


aquart

(69,014 posts)
6. The legislature wants to make the decisions? Make them stay in the room with the mother.
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 02:12 PM
Apr 2012

And, oh yes, may every one of those heartless bastards die in agony.

The evil you teach us we will imitate. And it shall go hard, but we will better the instruction.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
17. You have NO IDEA how much they'd enjoy being there, or you wouldn't make such a suggestion
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 04:15 PM
Apr 2012

clydefrand

(4,325 posts)
7. Why on earth are women being told
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 02:24 PM
Apr 2012

what they have to do with their own bodies? I'm so sick of hearing and reading about this. Men aren't told they can't have vasectomies; or that they can't use condoms; or that they can't use Cialis and Viagra. Or they can't have surgeory if they have prostate cancer because the treatment kill the sperms which will make them unable to produce children. Why are we being treated like this?

 

seattleblah

(69 posts)
10. Men still have to get someone in the medical class...
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 03:03 PM
Apr 2012

to approve of most of the things you listed. Men are still under the control of doctors in many regards.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
12. as it should be
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 03:47 PM
Apr 2012

healthcare best left to doctors and patients, and politicians need to stay out of that equation. there are no republicon politicians proposing laws to limit men's access to healthcare.

uppityperson

(116,020 posts)
23. You mean men have to go to a doctor to get a vasectomy? Well, duh. Very inaccurate comparison
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 06:21 PM
Apr 2012

Men CAN go get a vasectomy without having to get lectured to about killing unborn sperms. There is a difference and I am sure you know that.

uppityperson

(116,020 posts)
28. Men have to go to a doc to get viagra? Still an invalid comparison.
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 08:59 PM
Apr 2012

Men have to get a prescription for a medicine.
Women are unable to get reproductive health care.

A more accurate valid comparison would be that women have to get a Rx for Oral contraceptives, men need an Rx for viagra.

Health care should be between your doctor and you, not between politicians and you. You seem to miss that point.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
11. This law will eventually kill someone. And they still won't care...
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 03:19 PM
Apr 2012

they will call it a slight risk. I would hope at some point a doctor will do what is best for his/her patient and challenge the law.

Iris

(16,875 posts)
14. Unfortunately you are probably right - someone will die and "they" won't care
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 03:56 PM
Apr 2012

But what about the other "they"? The ones who are clueless that this is the sort of thing that's going on in their own states? My state (Georgia) just passed this same bill. I guess most people just won't care until someone they know personally suffers because of this law. (and in GA, one state rep. argued that he had seen countless pigs and cows born dead and it was sad but it was just life)

TinkerTot55

(198 posts)
15. Um, new here, but am a little confused....
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 04:07 PM
Apr 2012

Title states story is from Nebraska, but story refers to Governor Jan Brewer?
Jan Brewer = Governor of Arizona.
Dave Heineman = Governor of Nebraska

Misprint, or is rest of story...not as factual?

Geoff R. Casavant

(2,381 posts)
16. It is confusing, I have a hypothesis.
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 04:15 PM
Apr 2012

The article mentioned they are fighting against that law, perhaps it meant to say they are also fighting against similar laws, and perhaps (again) Arizona is considering just such a similar law.

Just a conjecture, but it would clear up the confusion. Of course, if the article was written just a little clearly there would be no confusion in the first place.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
22. They care f*ckall about how much pain..
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 04:45 PM
Apr 2012

.. and suffering they cause. It's about control, control, control and NOTHING else.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
25. DISPUTE over fetal pain at 20 weeks? Disputed by whom? A bunch of fruitcakes?
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 07:12 PM
Apr 2012

There can't possibly be any credible study that says fetuses don't feel pain at 20 weeks. That's just stupid, that's just bad idiotic science.

However it was even stupider to force any woman to go through this shit, only to see the baby die.

Way to go, GOP, for practicing medicine without a license!

indepat

(20,899 posts)
26. There are no words to describe the amount of harm, pain, and suffering being inflicted upon our
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 08:06 PM
Apr 2012

society and its people by right-wing politicians bent on codifying their version of God's law.

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