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cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:24 AM Jul 2014

Sign moveon petition to STOP military aid to Israel!

http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/stop-us-military-aid

Netanyahu and those who take us for granted should know that there is a PRICE for their actions, and that we in America won't put up with what they are doing!
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Sign moveon petition to STOP military aid to Israel! (Original Post) cascadiance Jul 2014 OP
I'll sign it if Elizabeth Warren & Bernie Sanders sign it. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #1
Maybe they're waiting for more people like you to sign it too! :) cascadiance Jul 2014 #2
Yeah, they're Sooooooo different. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #3
Maybe you should derive your conscience from ethics rather than party membership? Scootaloo Jul 2014 #9
And when I begin to take ethics advice from some anonymous poster online, I'll give you a holler. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #22
Ethics are universal. You don't need me to explain ethics, you need only embrace them Scootaloo Jul 2014 #23
And I don't need you to explain to me about my "party" affiliation & my conscience, just FYI. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #24
Just making a suggestion Scootaloo Jul 2014 #35
Pathetic n/t whatchamacallit Jul 2014 #25
Et tu, whatchamacallit? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #36
K & R. davidthegnome Jul 2014 #4
Done. stranger81 Jul 2014 #5
Done Jack Rabbit Jul 2014 #6
What the media calls "Foreign Aid" we should call "Arms Sales". Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #7
+1 Enthusiast Jul 2014 #11
That's why it ain't going away anytime soon. polichick Jul 2014 #27
It's our #1 export.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #32
Good idea - maybe even a whole case of gun nuts! polichick Jul 2014 #37
DONE! yuiyoshida Jul 2014 #8
You are kidding...right? Oldenuff Jul 2014 #10
"Limiting of Israels (sic) ability to defend itself"... regnaD kciN Jul 2014 #12
? Oldenuff Jul 2014 #14
I believe you are very confused stranger81 Jul 2014 #31
They must be if they can't see the genocide for what it is. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #40
We went through similar concerns when Egypt's Mubarak regime fell too... cascadiance Jul 2014 #15
Come on, if only enough of us write a letter to the president and congress, surely they'll listen. hughee99 Jul 2014 #17
It's like hitting a mule in the head with a 2x4. First, you have to get its attention. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2014 #20
Bull shit! Israel kills more people in one day upaloopa Jul 2014 #26
Jon Stewart did a piece last night on this.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #29
Signed it with pride... regnaD kciN Jul 2014 #13
K&R G_j Jul 2014 #16
K & R & Done. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2014 #18
Recommend. morningfog Jul 2014 #19
Done. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #21
No. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #28
Signed and posted to Facebook upaloopa Jul 2014 #30
Done. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #33
FY2014 has $89 billion for our war in Afghanistan oberliner Jul 2014 #34
Kicking Trillo Jul 2014 #38
done. thnx.. 2banon Jul 2014 #39
 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
2. Maybe they're waiting for more people like you to sign it too! :)
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:44 AM
Jul 2014

Leaders are supposed to be responsive to what the people want, not the people just do what the leaders want. I think that's what leaders like Warren and Sanders are more like than other pols out there.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,454 posts)
22. And when I begin to take ethics advice from some anonymous poster online, I'll give you a holler.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 12:38 PM
Jul 2014
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
23. Ethics are universal. You don't need me to explain ethics, you need only embrace them
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 12:41 PM
Jul 2014

Tarheel_Dem

(31,454 posts)
24. And I don't need you to explain to me about my "party" affiliation & my conscience, just FYI.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 12:45 PM
Jul 2014
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
35. Just making a suggestion
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:32 PM
Jul 2014

Defining your position according to what the party says isn't especially admirable. Ideally it would be the other way around because, you know, we're not Republicans.

 

Oldenuff

(582 posts)
10. You are kidding...right?
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 04:21 AM
Jul 2014

There are factions in the Middle East that only want one thing...and that is death to Israel...and here you are advocating for the limiting of Israels ability to defend itself.

We always jump on the Conservatives because they are manipulated so well...only to find out that Progressives are just as bad.I' embarrassed for you.

and no...I won't sign your petition.

regnaD kciN

(27,630 posts)
12. "Limiting of Israels (sic) ability to defend itself"...
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 04:37 AM
Jul 2014

...in other words, "limiting Israel's ability to commit genocide against a captive civilian population."



 

Oldenuff

(582 posts)
14. ?
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 04:52 AM
Jul 2014

Oh Brother.

If we can't think independently,we are lost.

Imagine if the media wanted to influence common opinion.Imagine further,if even the progressives bought into it.Same shite when the CIA starts a disinformation campaign to influence elections around the globe.

And here "we" are...dutifully following along.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
15. We went through similar concerns when Egypt's Mubarak regime fell too...
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 11:18 AM
Jul 2014

We as a world power have a responsibility to make sure if we send arms aid that it is being used properly in terms of defending that country and NOT used against others in an abusive fashion, which has been a concern recently BOTH in the case of Egypt's new regime and in the case of the Netanyahu regime, who are using this aid in an abusive way. Their citizenry needs to understand that if the leadership they put in place abuses the use of that aid, there is a price to be paid. If we can't control how this aid is given out, then weapons dealers are free to make tons of money off of us with no price to be paid, and those receiving the aid also get to do whatever they want with it without a cost.

We as citizens should have a say in how our taxpayer's money is being spent. I think it is time to draw a line in the sand now.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
17. Come on, if only enough of us write a letter to the president and congress, surely they'll listen.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 11:25 AM
Jul 2014


Besides, it's a great way to get your name on a whole bunch of mailing lists or email lists.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,145 posts)
20. It's like hitting a mule in the head with a 2x4. First, you have to get its attention.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 11:57 AM
Jul 2014

As a country, we either stand for something or we don't. But in lieu of pulling the plug entirely, I'd be willing to see some serious strings attached to any future disbursements.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
26. Bull shit! Israel kills more people in one day
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:17 PM
Jul 2014

with our tax dollars than the other Middle East countries combined. Maybe you need to look into your conscience and see if there is any room for social justice for all people in the region.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
29. Jon Stewart did a piece last night on this....
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:18 PM
Jul 2014

He exposed to America that we are selling arms to all sides in the region.

Why?

Because Tahiti isn't in the market for military hardware.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,145 posts)
18. K & R & Done.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 11:43 AM
Jul 2014

Not that the gutless wonders in Washington D.C. will remove their lips from Bibi's ass long enough to read it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
34. FY2014 has $89 billion for our war in Afghanistan
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:26 PM
Jul 2014

Over 1300 civilian casualties there in 2013 incidentally (including women and children killed by NATO airstrikes), but who pays attention to that sort of thing anymore?

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
38. Kicking
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 02:23 PM
Jul 2014

because of the anti-semite post(s) this morning, this thread is a good balance to them.

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