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FSogol

(45,446 posts)
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:00 PM Jul 2014

Are you raising nice kids? A Harvard psychologist gives 5 ways to raise them to be kind

By Amy Joyce at the Washington Post.

"Earlier this year, I wrote about teaching empathy, and whether you are a parent who does so. The idea behind it is from Richard Weissbourd, a Harvard psychologist with the graduate school of education, who runs the Making Caring Common project, aimed to help teach kids to be kind.

I know, you’d think they are or that parents are teaching that themselves, right? Not so, according to a new study released by the group.

About 80 percent of the youth in the study said their parents were more concerned with their achievement or happiness than whether they cared for others. The interviewees were also three times more likely to agree that “My parents are prouder if I get good grades in my classes than if I’m a caring community member in class and school.”

Weissbourd and his cohorts have come up with recommendations about how to raise children to become caring, respectful and responsible adults. Why is this important? Because if we want our children to be moral people, we have to, well, raise them that way."


Whole article here

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/parenting/wp/2014/07/18/are-you-raising-nice-kids-a-harvard-psychologist-gives-5-ways-to-raise-them-to-be-kind/

To his list of 5, I'd say add a component of nature/respect for living things to their metrics for kindness.

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Are you raising nice kids? A Harvard psychologist gives 5 ways to raise them to be kind (Original Post) FSogol Jul 2014 OP
This seems incredibly important marions ghost Jul 2014 #1
Gotta agree. The point about being kind as being just as important as FSogol Jul 2014 #2
The five ways are: JimDandy Jul 2014 #3
+1 n/t FSogol Jul 2014 #4
Thanks! lovemydog Jul 2014 #8
"All I really want to know is.... bvar22 Jul 2014 #5
The article twice mentions obligation to a sports team, but fails to mention -- radicalliberal Jul 2014 #6
They mentioned sports as in your actions affecting others and used how quitting would affect others FSogol Jul 2014 #10
I agree that one's obligations to others is important in group situations, -- radicalliberal Jul 2014 #12
This social scientist who is promoting teaching kids to be kind is not advocating treating others FSogol Aug 2014 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author radicalliberal Aug 2014 #23
This would be a mistake: "I won't even log in again." FSogol Aug 2014 #24
That is interesting treestar Jul 2014 #7
Same here. lovemydog Jul 2014 #9
"My Religion is Kindness" Coventina Jul 2014 #11
The extreme level of competitiveness marions ghost Jul 2014 #13
When my daughter was young gwheezie Jul 2014 #14
Same here. Both of my sons have volunteered weekly at the local food bank since they were little. FSogol Aug 2014 #21
Empathy is THE key to raising children laundry_queen Jul 2014 #15
Wish I could rec your post. winter is coming Jul 2014 #17
Oh, absolutely! laundry_queen Jul 2014 #19
+1 n/t FSogol Aug 2014 #22
Hell, no; I'm raising my kid to be a Republican. winter is coming Jul 2014 #16
Empathy used to be seen as a virtue, now it's seen as a weakness. enigmatic Jul 2014 #18
And read good fiction aloud to them (well above their own reading level) and talk about pnwmom Aug 2014 #25
I take care of my kid BlueJazz Aug 2014 #26
Now all the republican parents know what not to do! BillZBubb Aug 2014 #27

FSogol

(45,446 posts)
2. Gotta agree. The point about being kind as being just as important as
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:20 PM
Jul 2014

being successful is a great one.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
3. The five ways are:
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:23 PM
Jul 2014

1. Make caring for others a priority.
2. Provide opportunities for children to practice caring and gratitude.
3. Expand your child's circle of concern.
4. Be a strong moral role model and mentor.
5. Guide children in managing destructive feelings.

For each of the five points, the author tells why, how and what to try.

Good article. We need a lot more kind people on this earth.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
5. "All I really want to know is....
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 03:59 PM
Jul 2014
Are you kind?"

--- Jerry Garcia, Grateful Dead, Uncle John's Band

radicalliberal

(907 posts)
6. The article twice mentions obligation to a sports team, but fails to mention --
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:04 PM
Jul 2014

-- obligation to those who don't happen to be a member of the sports team. Locker room bullying isn't mentioned. Is bullying (including instances of physical assault) in junior high and high-school gyms rare, or is it (and has been for generations) the other way around? Oh, well, it doesn't matter. Especially when the victims are not athletically inclined. "Boys will be boys, and girls will be girls." Besides, empathy and compassion are feminine traits. So say the "alpha males" among us.

FSogol

(45,446 posts)
10. They mentioned sports as in your actions affecting others and used how quitting would affect others
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:11 PM
Jul 2014

as the example. Same situation would happen in quitting the chorus, quitting the band, quitting helping you brother work on something, etc.

Nice kids won't bully anyone, would they?

radicalliberal

(907 posts)
12. I agree that one's obligations to others is important in group situations, --
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:46 PM
Jul 2014

-- such as in the situations you've just referenced. That goes without saying. Our loved ones depend on us as adults in adult-adult or adult-child relationships.

But what about those who aren't members of the group? What about those who are different? Someone who is considerate of members of his group may not be so kind to outsiders. Especially outsiders who are deemed to be inferior on the basis of some superficial characteristic (such as lack of physical strength or athleticism among boys). Again, have scrawny boys and fat boys (not to mention girls) usually been treated kindly in mandatory P.E. classes; or has it been true that they had reason to dread the period when they had P.E.? Yes, truly kind kids would not bully anyone. But I hardly ever saw that as I was growing up; and I'm not the only DU member who would say this. It's so easy to be "kind" to those who are like you (editorially speaking) or are members of your own particular group or your team, but not necessarily so to those who are "outside the box." The general rule has been that those who have been deemed to be "inferior" usually have not been treated kindly. Just take a look at the long history of the human race. The prolific horror fiction writer Robert Bloch once was asked what he thought was the greatest horror story he had ever heard; and he replied, "The history of mankind."

Speaking of obligations, I got to go for now.

FSogol

(45,446 posts)
20. This social scientist who is promoting teaching kids to be kind is not advocating treating others
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 08:43 AM
Aug 2014

differently. I must question your reading comprehension if you see that in this article.



Some members of DU seem to have had such bad memories of gym class (schools are much more inclusive these days and really aren't like that anymore) that the mere mention of sports in an article ruins their objectivity. Where does the article promote treating people not in your group differently?

Response to FSogol (Reply #20)

FSogol

(45,446 posts)
24. This would be a mistake: "I won't even log in again."
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 06:15 PM
Aug 2014

You should continue to post your pov on this and any web forum you choose. Don't mistake disagreement on an article as an attack and don't think you look more foolish than anyone else. Learn to ignore the forum one-up-manship and the "I am ____ than you" game which shows up on every single forum. I, for one, hope you hang around longer.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. That is interesting
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:05 PM
Jul 2014

Never thought of it, but there is an awful lot of emphasis on achievements and competition in our society, and that would tend to breed unkindness rather than kindness. I actually think people are better now than they were a couple generations ago.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
9. Same here.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:08 PM
Jul 2014

For example, it's traditional now to invite other friends along to things. They need not have a partner or significant other. I love that. In my parents' generation, it was almost like either you have a spouse or you're screwed out of hanging with friends.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
13. The extreme level of competitiveness
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 05:13 PM
Jul 2014

in this country is making parents less likely to teach kindness and more likely to teach the subtle art of knocking others out of the way.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
14. When my daughter was young
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 08:55 PM
Jul 2014

I encouraged her to volunteer at an emergency shelter for children. It's 30 years later and she still volunteers, she's a parenting mentor for the state youth and family services division.

FSogol

(45,446 posts)
21. Same here. Both of my sons have volunteered weekly at the local food bank since they were little.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 08:58 AM
Aug 2014

My youngest son just can back from his college orientation and the first thing he said was that he found a local food pantry where he can help out at.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
15. Empathy is THE key to raising children
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 09:39 PM
Jul 2014

IMNSHO.

It's not just about those 5 points either. I can think of so many ways we can teach empathy. Every time there is human interaction, there is a teachable moment for children. Children need to learn how to consider other people's point of views and I think it's more important than anything else you teach a child because EVERYTHING else you try to instill in your children - responsibility, chores, homework, family harmony, social life - all rests on the ability to empathize. Teaching those other things is easy if your child has empathy.

One mistake (that I didn't see in the list) I see parents make SO often is trying to be perfect in front of their children. Not showing negative emotions seems to carry some badge of super parent nowadays and I'm not sure why. I have several friends and relatives that do this - in the face of some emotional, life-changing event, they feel like they have to put on this mask of "I must carry on stoically". A relative of mine had her husband die suddenly, and she carried on as usual, even bringing the kids to school the next day so as 'not to disrupt their routine'. She talked about how she kept her emotions out of every day life, only crying after the kids were in bed. She eventually realized the error of her ways, when a few months later, when she said something like, "Oh, your dad would've loved this!" her daughter said, "Is it okay to talk about dad now?" I think people forget that kids learn to express emotions by mirroring their parents. A child who sees their parent dealing with emotions in a healthy manner won't just understand how to show emotions healthily, it's also a teachable moment to show the child how to comfort someone else who is in distress.

There have been times in my life where I've been upset in front of my kids - they are usually more curious than anything and I explain to them why I'm upset (Grandma is sick, my puppy died) and then I thank them for asking why I'm upset and let them know it made me feel better. My youngest was especially concerned and would bring me a drink of water or something and hug me and tell me she was 'making me better'. Some people really think that showing those emotions may be stressing children out too much, but I think it's good for them to see emotions of all kinds and that when a family is 'perfect' with few emotions it creates anxiety because the child is unsure about how to express THEIR emotions and they bottle it up instead. Of course, I also make sure I show empathy to my children and to others, who are upset. And empathy towards animals too. I think having a pet is a great idea for children because it teaches them how to anticipate other people's needs without language. I have one daughter who I deem 'at risk' of not having empathy (my children's dad is a sociopath) and I did have her in therapy with a child psychologist for awhile during my divorce (therapist said she had plenty of empathy, so phew!) and since we have gotten our puppy (well, now a year old, LOL) her sense of empathy has exploded. She cares for that dog, anticipates her needs, her emotions, everything. The change in her is pretty amazing.

Anyway, good article. Oh, I'd like to add that this is a great program to start up in school...in my kids' previous school they had a program called "Roots of Empathy" where over the course of the school year, a new mother would bring her new baby in once a month for 10 months and the kids were taught how to anticipate a baby's needs, wants and emotions. I think that should be in every school all over North America, especially for kids who are not taught it at home. Something so small could make for so much improvement in our society.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
17. Wish I could rec your post.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 09:55 PM
Jul 2014

And it's not just about being honest about our emotions around kids, although that's vital. I was doing something with kids a couple of years back and made some minor goof. I apologized to the kid, fixed things, and went on. Another parent, who witnessed the interaction, couldn't believe that I'd "lowered myself" by apologizing to a child. I stared right back at her and asked her how she expected kids to learn to admit mistakes and apologize if they don't witness adults modeling the appropriate behavior.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
19. Oh, absolutely!
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 11:24 PM
Jul 2014

My dad totally lacked empathy and the one and only time he ever apologized to me was when my mom forced him to. Basically, he put me in a position where I had to either obey his current command or break one of his rules, and when I hesitated because I didn't know what to do, he hit me. My mom figured out why I hesitated and made him apologize. He was like that too - apologizing to kids was 'beneath' him, too (because kids were always 'less than' to him).

I always swore I would apologize to my kids and admit my mistakes to them. And I have. Like you, I don't get the big deal. Fix it and move on. Model the appropriate behavior. I can't tell you how many people I know that wouldn't admit they were wrong if their lives depended on it. I'm sure how they were raised is part of the reason why. They don't know how to admit they were wrong or think there is something wrong with admitting they are wrong. They equate it with weakness which is why we get non-apology apologies blaming the victim. "I'm sorry you feel that way." comes from those same people.

enigmatic

(15,021 posts)
18. Empathy used to be seen as a virtue, now it's seen as a weakness.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 10:15 PM
Jul 2014

It's time to reverse the trend so that the next generation will be kinder and work for a better world.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
25. And read good fiction aloud to them (well above their own reading level) and talk about
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 06:18 PM
Aug 2014

the characters and their dilemmas.

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