Sat Aug 2, 2014, 10:20 AM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
I believe talk of CIA hiding torture from Bush Admin is to Change the mindset for a Bush Called Jeb!
Plain and simple, propaganda. All the media is parroting this stance. For if Georgie did not know, then the Bush and Cheney, Condi, and Rummy, are not the war criminals they were made out to be. So What's this all about????
So now we give you the "good son" JEB! Gawd, I cannot live through another BUSH! NEVER! ![]()
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TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | OP |
TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | #1 | |
rock | Aug 2014 | #6 | |
TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | #2 | |
TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | #3 | |
madokie | Aug 2014 | #4 | |
TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | #17 | |
blm | Aug 2014 | #5 | |
Octafish | Aug 2014 | #7 | |
TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | #23 | |
on point | Aug 2014 | #8 | |
DhhD | Aug 2014 | #9 | |
DhhD | Aug 2014 | #10 | |
TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | #11 | |
Lint Head | Aug 2014 | #12 | |
WhiteTara | Aug 2014 | #13 | |
TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | #14 | |
WhiteTara | Aug 2014 | #15 | |
TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | #16 | |
TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | #18 | |
sadoldgirl | Aug 2014 | #19 | |
TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | #20 | |
TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | #21 | |
rhett o rick | Aug 2014 | #24 | |
BainsBane | Aug 2014 | #28 | |
TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | #22 | |
Iggo | Aug 2014 | #25 | |
TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | #26 | |
TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | #27 | |
TheKentuckian | Aug 2014 | #29 | |
TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | #30 | |
TheKentuckian | Aug 2014 | #32 | |
TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | #31 | |
RandiFan1290 | Aug 2014 | #33 | |
TheNutcracker | Aug 2014 | #34 | |
MinM | Aug 2014 | #35 | |
Mc Mike | Aug 2014 | #36 |
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 10:27 AM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
1. Don't fall for all of this CIA apology stuff, it's propaganda to cleanse GW Bush!
Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #1)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 10:49 AM
rock (13,218 posts)
6. You can lick a turd all you want
but it never gets clean, it just disappears. But the best way to get rid of a turd is to send it to the Hague for war crimes!
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 10:29 AM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
2. Please keep rec'ing and kicking so it's seen all over the country!
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 10:30 AM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
3. Please tweet as well, so the MSN knows that we "get it".
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 10:34 AM
madokie (51,076 posts)
4. Plain and simple propaganda, nothing more, nothing less
Response to madokie (Reply #4)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 01:11 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
17. Even Rachael was talking this shit....CIA apology....right....
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 10:38 AM
blm (111,426 posts)
5. CIA power circle ONLY answers to BushInc and has for the last 5 decades.
Do people really think Poppy Bush and his CIA inner circle of power players answered to Nixon? Ford? Carter? Reagan? Clinton? Obama? LOL.
The show 24 was set up to condition the casual citizen to accept any length of brutality or deceit. Despite what people are told in the corporate news media, there should be far more concern about fascists influencing our television programming than the tiresome lament of 'liberal media'. |
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 10:50 AM
Octafish (55,745 posts)
7. CIA spied on CONGRESS. Apology accepted.
Heeeeere's Jebthro. He's not like other Bushes. He's smarter...
![]() The Bush Family: A Continuing Criminal Enterprise? Gary W. Potter, PhD. Professor, Criminal Justice Eastern Kentucky University The S&Ls, the Mob and the Bushs During the 1980's hundred of Savings and Loan Banks failed. Those bank failures cost U.S. taxpayers over $500 billion to cover federally insured losses, and much more to investigate the bank failures (Pizzo, Fricker, and Muolo, 1989; Brewton, 1992; Johnston, 1990). More than 75% of the Savings and Loan insolvencies where directly linked to serious and often criminal misconduct by senior financial insiders (Pizzo, Fricker and Muolo, 1989: 305). In fact, less than 10 percent of bank failures are related to economic conditions, the rest are caused by mismanagement or criminal conduct (Pizzo, Fricker and Muolo, 1989: 305). A good example of the Savings and Loan failures can be found in the activities of Mario Renda, a Savings and Loan insider who often worked in close collaboration with organized crime (Pizzo, Fricker and Muolo, 1989: 123-126;302). Renda served as a middle man in arranging about $5 billion a year in deposits into 130 Savings and Loans, all of which failed (Kwitny, 1992: 27). Many of these deposits were made contingent on an agreement that the Savings and Loan involved would lend money to borrowers recommended by Renda, many of whom were organized crime figures or people entirely unknown to the banking institution involved (Kwitny, 1992: 27). SNIP... Prescott Bush: The Yakuza’s Frontman Finally, and perhaps most seriously, the Bush family pioneered the practice which has now become commonplace of collaboration between corporate and organized criminals. Prescott Bush, uncle of the current President and brother of the former President, played a key role in helping the Japanese Yakuza extend their financial and real estate holdings to the United States. In 1989, Prescott Bush made arrangements for a front company for Japanese organized crime groups to buy into two U.S. corporations and to make a sizeable real investment in the U.S. (Helm, 1991a: 1; Isikoff, 1992: A1). West Tsusho, a Japanese corporation, was identified by Japanese police officials as a front company for one of that country’s largest organized crime syndicates. Prescott Bush was paid a fee of $500,000 for his help in negotiating West Tsusho’s purchase of controlling interest in Assets Management, a U.S. corporation (Helm, 1991a: 1; Isikoff, 1992: A1). Bush also assisted the Japanese mob in investing in Quantam Access, a U.S. software company, which was ultimately taken over by the Japanese (Helm, 1991b: 10; Isikoff, 1992: A1). Both companies ultimately went into bankruptcy (Isikoff, 1992: A1; Moses, 1992). George Bush Sr.: Shutting Down the Organize Crime Strike Forces Despite assessments from senior law enforcement officers and experts on organized crime that efforts to control organized crime would be crippled, in December 1989, the administration of George Bush, Sr. abolished all 14 regional organized crime strike forces (McAlister, 1989: A 21; Struck out, 1990). The organized crime strike had been created as independent entities so they would not be subject to political influences or bureaucratic wrangling within federal law enforcement. In the two decades of their operation the strike forces had secured convictions of major organized crime figures in several U.S. cities (Struck out, 1990). It is at the very least curious to note that the federal strike force in Miami had been responsible for indicting Miguel Recarey, the man for whom Jeb Bush had intervened with regulators. Organized crime strike forces had similarly indicted Mario Renda, the organized crime liaison to the S& L’s, as well as several other key figures in the Savings and Loan Fiasco (Pizzo, Fricker, and Mulolo, 1989: 112, 120-123, 303, 337). CONTINUED... http://critcrim.org/critpapers/potter.htm PS: Great OP and thread, TheNutcracker. Thank you for putting it into words. |
Response to Octafish (Reply #7)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 04:41 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
23. Hi there..thanks a bunch Octafish!
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 10:59 AM
on point (2,506 posts)
8. The Bush admin called for torture. Not sure how it could be hidden from them
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 11:11 AM
DhhD (4,695 posts)
9. Executive Intelligence Review
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2004/3128addington_memo.html
This article appears in the July 16, 2004 issue of Executive Intelligence Review. Cheney's Lawyer Addington Penned Key Torture Memo by Jeffrey Steinberg David Addington, the General Counsel to Vice President Dick Cheney, was the actual author of one of the now-infamous White House "torture memos" that claimed for President Bush the authority to violate the Geneva Conventions on the Treatment of Prisoners of War, in the so-called "war on terrorism." The immediate result of this Hitlerian document was the scenes of inhuman torture at the Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad, and the as-yet untold tales of similar torture at other secret prison locations in Afghanistan, at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and in other countries around the world. The revelation that Addington was the author of the Jan. 25, 2002 draft memorandum for the President, first appeared in a July 3 report in Newsweek online. An unnamed aide to White House General Counsel Alberto Gonzales told the magazine's Daniel Klaidman, "The memo was actually penned not by Gonzales but by Dick Cheney's top lawyer, David Addington, a hard-charging hawk." This news service has independently confirmed the accuracy of the Newsweek story, through several intelligence and legal community sources, familiar with the deliberations that preceeded the writing of the January 2002 document, which President Bush approved. |
Response to DhhD (Reply #9)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 11:19 AM
DhhD (4,695 posts)
10. Additional Memos on Torture.
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 11:23 AM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
11. Total bullshit propaganda! It's everywhere, to clean up the road for a toad named JEB!
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 12:14 PM
Lint Head (15,064 posts)
12. Cheney knew about the torture and admitted it.
Response to Lint Head (Reply #12)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 12:26 PM
WhiteTara (28,236 posts)
13. and Rummy condoned it and * also knew
We must send our war criminals to the Hague. For some reason Democrats are loathe to call someone out for their bad behavior while Republicons make stuff up so they can call their opponent out.
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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #13)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 12:38 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
14. Correct, so just tweet and let the MSM know they will not get away with bathing Bush's clean.
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Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #14)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 12:41 PM
WhiteTara (28,236 posts)
15. you can do that for me.
I don't have a twitter account.
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 12:43 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
16. Re Jebby: Rats make rats, biology says so.
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 01:14 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
18. I hope they get the message, we're not buying this bullshit CIA apology to Senate!
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 01:45 PM
sadoldgirl (3,431 posts)
19. It would be very foolish of Jebbie to
run under these circumstances. Even the MSM would have to ask some uncomfortable questions. He will be very quiet right now. If there is a storm coming, he will wait it out. Then he will check on which way the wind blows.
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Response to sadoldgirl (Reply #19)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 02:03 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
20. He already met with some of the TOP financers...he's running. Foolish yes! What about voters?
![]() ![]() They seem to buy it every time! Or will it be the voting machines again? |
Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #20)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 04:18 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
21. PS I read on DU Hillary met with the same $$folks$$ soon before he did!
So he must be planning to run.
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Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #21)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 05:04 PM
rhett o rick (55,981 posts)
24. The same Powers That Be will back both H. Clinton-Sachs and Bush the Smarter Son.
A Clinton v Bush TheTurd is a win-win for the PTB.
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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #24)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 09:36 PM
BainsBane (52,689 posts)
28. I think that is likely true for upper-middle class white men
For them, it matters not which candidate or party wins the presidency. For women, people of color, LBGT Americans, and the poor, it matters a great deal. Of course our lives are, I've been told, "Third Way" and inconsequential in comparison to what our betters expect.
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 04:20 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
22. Most important a new generation may believe this lie regarding the torture.
You'll see college kids with JEB stickers on.....
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 06:37 PM
Iggo (46,618 posts)
25. So you and I and everyone else knew they were torturing people.
But the Bush admin didn't.
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Response to Iggo (Reply #25)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 09:07 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
26. We know but what about those who were babies?
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Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #26)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 09:09 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
27. PS They are new voters now!
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 11:25 PM
TheKentuckian (23,947 posts)
29. How the hell can anyone possibly make a case that the top level was ignorant?
It would be the most easily debunked thing ever, in their own words and memos.
Any organization even daring to try should just be forever discredited as a pure propaganda outlet. |
Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #29)
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 10:52 AM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
30. Well it was said on CNN, MSNBC(Rachael) FOX ABC CBS NBC
That is why I wrote up the post...to head them off when the time comes!
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Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #30)
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 02:32 PM
TheKentuckian (23,947 posts)
32. Then disregard all they say including and especially Maddow because it is inarguable
that she is far too intelligent with far too many facts at her disposal to be doing anything but lying her ass of for nefarious purposes. Plus, she isn't a kid she was adult and very aware at that point nor is she some bubbleheaded spoke model brainlessly mouthing the copy on here teleprompter in Ron Burgundy like fashion like so many of the network talking heads.
If she is playing this charade then she is a true scorpion in our midst with nary a plausible excuse. |
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 02:04 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
31. And you have the BS senate discussion on this thread -
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 02:35 PM
RandiFan1290 (6,176 posts)
33. It's all part of the game
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Response to RandiFan1290 (Reply #33)
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 05:31 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
34. Yes, like the Bush's, they never seem to go away!
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 09:23 AM
MinM (2,650 posts)
35. The CIA & GOP have always shared strong ties...
and those ties are even stronger with Bush & Co.
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 05:51 PM
Mc Mike (9,084 posts)