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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow do we know there are 1,726 Palestinians killed?
I know...I know....we heard it on the TV.
But, to look at the rubble from the bombings, there could be that many people buried under it?
And how do we know that 80% of them are civilians?
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Don't go questioning them, you muslim-hater.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)it amuses me that people who reflexively call bullshit on anything that even smells like
self-interest are willing to believe whatever Hamas says.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)...but this bullshit about them killing as many people as possible is exactly that, bullshit.
If they wanted to kill everyone, everyone would be dead.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)War is nasty business. If Hamas wouldn't hide behind the skirts of Palestinian women, it might be less nasty.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)I think Israel could have restrained itself.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)It's a terrible situation, made worse by Hamas' fascination with launching rockets any and every chance they get.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)other than "no civilian casualties."
Israel may be acting badly at times, but in no way will I believe they're trying to maximize death.
No easy outcome. We both know the rockets will resume as soon as Israel leaves.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)The Palestinians don't have that protection. Israel has a right to defend itself but this is vengeance.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)So they were impossible to detect.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Bombing UN schools was a complete crime.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Somehow I suspect that would have been regarded as a war crime, too.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)"They have the Iron Dome, so they should be able to tolerate rockets."
Good gravy. I have an immune system, but should I be injected by the flu virus whenever someone feels like it?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)2naSalit
(86,765 posts)they are working on it while trying to maintain the victimhood stance... it's not easy to make it appear that way while annihilating an entire population with impunity... these appearances take time (and our money).
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)there'd be no need for a ground invasion. They'd just rocket them forever, because their rockets work.
2naSalit
(86,765 posts)the ground invasion is for show, and a few personnel loses to stir the sh*tpot.
But that's my opinion. They have learned, long ago, how powerful imagery is... and they use it well.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)then your regard for Hamas and its PR must be substantial.
2naSalit
(86,765 posts)is your opinion regardless of whether it is true (and it's not true).
Propaganda is a dangerous thing, those with the most resources usually gain the upper hand in the contest of imagery. I offer Fuxnooz and the four wealthiest wannabes in the US as well known examples.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)You can be guaranteed of one thing, nobody in that area is going to look like liberators or have rose pedals thrown down at their feet. Looks like war to me. Supposedly war is something humans pretend they like to avoid to stay civilized, but I think humans are drawn to war like a moth to a flame.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Israel has the most moral artillery in the world.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)4b5f940728b232b034e4
(120 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)JABALIYA, Gaza Strip An examination of an Israeli barrage that put a line of at least 10 shells through a United Nations school sheltering displaced Palestinians here last week suggests that Israeli troops paid little heed to warnings to safeguard such sites and may have unleashed weapons inappropriate for urban areas despite rising alarm over civilian deaths
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/04/world/middleeast/international-scrutiny-after-israeli-barrage-strike-in-jabaliya-where-united-nations-school-shelters-palestinians-in-gaza.html?_r=1
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Gaza City has a population density of around 25000 people per square mile. Considering the levels of devastation wrought by Israeli artillery? The casualty figures are entirely credible.
onecaliberal
(32,887 posts)dead in that rubble.
politicman
(710 posts)because the U.N backs up that number. The U.N has people on the ground and they verified that number.
This is why America is always what I call the 'bitch' of Israel, the media is so corrupt in the U.S that they neglect to give you the information that the rest of the world knows about, and instead all you hear is the same tired crap of 'always believe anything Israel say, no matter how outrageous", and 'questions everything else that anyone in the world says, even the U.N'.
Shame.
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)NV Whino
(20,886 posts)We seem to lack counting skills.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)6 months from now we might get accurate figure s.
Orrex
(63,220 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)isn't it? One would think that Israel would have all sorts of video documentation of Hamas committing crimes against Israel. Yet, I've not seen one photo.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)you wouldn't see a Hamas soldier. They can't afford uniforms, let alone a "proper" military. They are mostly men and boys who live within the West Bank. I was trying to find a video I saw made by VICE but couldn't find the exact one. However, here's the link to videos on VICE about the conflict.
http://www.vice.com/tag/palestine
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)Ya know, Just Saying.