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[JI7]

1. the article was on jewish school kids in australia and people bring up the israeli/palestinian

conflict to excuse what they did.

i personally blame israel and particularly the netanyahu right wing govt more for hte problems there right now. but there is no excuse to attack school kids and anyone who does so is an anti semite.

[Fawke Em]

2. Darn. I thought this thread was going to be about how wrong the

use of the term, "anti-Semitic" is.

I KNOW it was originally coined to mean someone who hates Jews, but it was wrong then and is wrong now. Many people who aren't of the Jewish faith are Semitic. While it does come from the name, "Shem," who was the son of Noah (allegedly), it still includes: the ancient and modern forms of Ahlamu, Akkadian (Assyrian-Babylonian), Amharic, Ammonite, Amorite, Arabic, Aramaic/Syriac, Canaanite (Phoenician/Carthaginian/Hebrew), Chaldean, Eblaite, Edomite, Ge'ez, Maltese, Mandaic, Moabite, Sutean, Tigre and Tigrinya, and Ugaritic, among others.

Maybe if we reconsidered the term, it would help define what we mean?

[JI7]

4. we know exactly what it means in the way we are discussing it , one could look up monkey

and look the definition is and claim there is nothing about black people and racism therefore when people portray blacks as monkeys it's not racist.

[Fawke Em]

5. Well, that's exactly my point.

I think the term was coined incorrectly in the first place because there ARE others who aren't of the Jewish faith who are, in fact, Semitic; however, there is no man who is a monkey.

Unless you believe in Bigfoot.

Seriously, you didn't get what I meant?

[JI7]

8. there are many words used in ways that aren't exactly like dictionary meaning

[Aerows]

6. I don't want the term to lose meaning

but when it gets applied to people that are just criticizing the Israeli government, it diminishes the meaning.

[Fawke Em]

9. That's what I meant, above, too.

It's hard to use the phrase when more and more people realize it doesn't only applies to people of the Jewish faith and that it applies to a variety other people.

I should be able to criticize ANY government without being called a name implying that I'm in any way bigoted, particularly when the name has been misused for decades anyway.

[jberryhill]

7. Didn't they need that in a Star Trek episode?

..for the semite, anti-semite reactor that made the engines run?