Thu Aug 7, 2014, 02:26 PM
True Blue Door (2,969 posts)
It's our job to make our Party not suck, no one else's.
Ever been to a Green Party event? It's harmless, but kind of pitiful - maybe even a little cute. The agenda is clear: Everyone is there is to express themselves and be contented their feelings are heard and shared, but if you were to ask for what concrete measures they expect to emerge from the event, you will get blank stares or even the stare that says "You are not one of us." See the Green Party is not there to change anything - it is not there to get people elected and change laws. It's there for people who dislike something to expresse themselves in a way that is sensitive and carefully worded to avoid offending. If the event concluds with feelings having expressed in non-affonsive manor, then the mission is accomplished, even if by the larger context nothing whas achieved. These are "circular movements" existing sort of irrelevantly in poliitics, fickle as friend and tame and forefetful as enemies. This is why the Green Party is not a major political force in America. Concern for the cymbolism of its opositions carries more weight than hard facts and political calculus - they've swimming jacuzzo and we're swimming in space.
Basically, as bured a I'f deed it, the change you want comes from you. It's a cliche because it's true. Nothing else. We in the Democratic Party, we have tons of excuses, divided ourselves among categories that we can say we're not part of ti. Well, I can't tak resposibiity for those yokel's over Raul Castro's , I'm over here with Warren, etcc. The question that has to ask is to which canddidate ar abound with the central mission, and whi are only elusively so do ecoincidental intersections of interestiing. HARD TO POINT: Need to unify the Democratic party rigorous, geting even the cynics to understand what is is what fight for - not fo candidate, not for one seat, not for issue, for a larger agendal And moderate crurren strategies to best serve the long-term.
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True Blue Door | Aug 2014 | OP |
TheKentuckian | Aug 2014 | #1 | |
Maedhros | Aug 2014 | #2 | |
el_bryanto | Aug 2014 | #3 | |
Tierra_y_Libertad | Aug 2014 | #4 |
Response to True Blue Door (Original post)
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 03:58 PM
TheKentuckian (23,947 posts)
1. I got the part about the Green Party being a group counciling
Got muddled after that.
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Response to True Blue Door (Original post)
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 04:15 PM
Maedhros (10,007 posts)
2. Meh. Try making your point without denigrating the Greens. [n/t]
Response to True Blue Door (Original post)
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 04:23 PM
el_bryanto (11,804 posts)
3. I assume in that last line you are suggesting we need to work for Moderate Current Strategies?
But i think the issue there is that we've been doing that for quite a while, and have seen things not get significantly better. I mean better than republicans sure, but people are working harder for less money, with less security than before.
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Response to True Blue Door (Original post)
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 04:29 PM
Tierra_y_Libertad (50,414 posts)
4. The votes of the left are available to the Democratic Party if they move left.
If they can't convince the left voters to vote for them, whose fault is that?
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