Death by knife

[sarisataka]

apparently is not worthy of comment.

To illustrate:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025344616
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5341257

I have been watching trends for the last six months or so. I have even posted stories that would test my theory.

It seems a child whose death is due to pit bulls, hot cars and especially gunz!!!! is horrible and cause for grief and lament.

Death by other means= shit happens.

To my mind, the violence or negligence is the disease. The method is a symptom and far less important; treating it will help but not cure the disease.


Oh and if anyone cares about a dead child here is an update
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2014/08/ill_always_love_you_family_rec.html

[CBGLuthier]

1. Gee, you come off kind of snotty.

But that is the danger of being a crusading scientist testing theories and all that shit.

[sarisataka]

9. It could be taken that way

But sometimes a bit of in-your-face sparks the conversation.

We see it here on many subjects.

[stevenleser]

2. One instance of each is your evidence? Lots of OPs dont get many comments.

Guns get the focus because they are not a necessary instrument for modern living outside of law enforcement and military and they make killing too easy and impersonal.

Knives are used every day by most people without injury. Even cars, with all the accidents they have, have a very low instance of accident and death per trip. And of course, cars play an important role in society.

Guns have no place in society and have no positive role to play.

[Eleanors38]

20. "Guns have no place in society." Hardened into extreme prohibitionism?

I certainly hope you do not gain a significant position within the bureaus of the Democratic Party. We have enough trouble as it is.

[stevenleser]

23. There is always a place for people who see things as they are. Guns are a menace. nt

[Eleanors38]

24. Well, there is a place for people of all stripes. Tolerance ain't easy.

[HERVEPA]

3. I was shocked, shocked I say when I chacked and saw that the gungeon is your favorite

Just more of the guns don't kill people crap, disguised a bit.

[Eleanors38]

8. What's the fave group of Bansalot's host?

Last edited Fri Aug 8, 2014, 01:31 AM - Edit history (1)

Edit for additional content: Is the figure still holding at 39%?

[sarisataka]

10. I subscribe to

14 groups. It did not seem applicable to 12 of them and a tangent fit to the other two.

I thought that under the revised SOP it might be of interest to a majority of DU members

[el_bryanto]

4. Is there a political movement to ban knives?

If there was than that'd be odd that we aren't discussing the political ramifications of these deaths. But if there isn't, and I certainly haven't heard of one, than I don't know that this would elicit much comment.

Also this might well be better suited for another area of DU.

Bryant

[Eleanors38]

7. About like the one banning guns.

[sarisataka]

11. Who is talking about bans

I am addressing violence. This is one of several shocking cases of children violently killing children this year.

What saddens me is only certain deaths ever get noticed.

[el_bryanto]

12. How do you know people aren't noticing those deaths but just not finding much to say about them?nt

[sarisataka]

16. Some deaths are noticed

With just a

Others drop like stones without even that much, even though they have similar numbers of views.

[surrealAmerican]

5. ... and yet:

If noticeable numbers of small children were dieing from, for instance, falling into cover-less manholes, we would see people calling for mandatory manhole covers. People get worked up about the deaths they feel could be easily prevented, even though they understand that not all deaths can be prevented.

[BainsBane]

6. Good. Then a knife for self defense should suit you just fine

No need for guns. Thanks for letting us know how guns aren't necessary at all.

[sarisataka]

15. It just so happens

I am carrying a knife today. I was on school property for a while.

I do not claim everyone needs a gun but will not say no one will ever need one. If violence is needed for self defense I won't second guess anyone's choice of weapon.

If a person unjustly uses any weapon (as in the MI case) they should face major punishment


Interesting side point. A small piece of a discussion we had some months back made it into the MN domestic violence law that passed this summer. I cannot claim any direct responsibility but it was very simlar to language I gave my rep on proposals to restrict firearm access to those under a restraining order.

I have hope still of someday having GC laws delineating rights and responsibility plus a reduction in overall violent crime, including gun crime.

[Eleanors38]

21. Such... compelling logic...

[LanternWaste]

13. There are a lot of half-wits who think that having nothing substantial to add is the same as...

There are a lot of half-wits who think that having nothing substantial to add is the same as thinking "not worthy of comment." I'm vaguely confident you're not one of them...

[sarisataka]

17. Well I'm glad to find

You found this one worthy of comment

[pinboy3niner]

18. I blame the NKA--National Knife Association

Their brazillion$ and lobbying power are surely a national health and policy problem.

[madinmaryland]

19. I've murdered thousands with a knife.

Tomatoes, that is.

[Art_from_Ark]

22. You better be careful

If some of your "victims'" buddies ever caught wind of that, you could be in for some tough times.