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(86,005 posts)
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 03:51 PM Aug 2014

Remember folks: CIA isn't responsible for consequences of its torture, people who inform public are

Trevor Timm ?@trevortimm 19h
Remember kids: CIA isn't responsible for the consequences of its torture, only the people who inform the public are. https://news.yahoo.com/a-warning-on--torture-report--release-233244652.html


Michael Isikoff: An intelligence agency warning on ‘torture report’ release

An internal U.S. intelligence memo warns that the release of a Senate report on CIA interrogation techniques could inflame anti-U.S. passions in the Mideast, resulting in potentially violent street protests and threats to U.S. embassies and personnel, U.S. officials tell Yahoo News.

The eight-page memo by the National Intelligence Council is being used by some in the intelligence community to argue for holding the line against Senate Intelligence Committee chair Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s demands to release a more complete version of the report’s 480-page summary. The memo went to the White House late last month but, administration officials said, played no role in the redactions to the report that Feinstein is objecting to.

“The Mideast is a tinderbox right now and this could be the spark that ignites quite a fire,” said one U.S. intelligence official who was briefed on the findings.

That concern was echoed Friday by a former top U.S. intelligence official who helped oversee the interrogation program. “It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out if you release a report like this at a time when terrorism is surging all over the Mideast you are handing the other side a recruitment tool,” John McLaughlin, a former CIA deputy director, told Yahoo News. “It’s blindingly obvious.”

. . . A White House official told Yahoo News that the White House did not request the NIC memo. "This was an intelligence community initiative to provide information to policymakers," the official said, emphasizing that redactions to the Senate report were made as part of a separate process based on concerns about the exposure of intelligence sources and methods as well as the identity of agency officers. President Obama's homeland security advisor Lisa Monaco is now overseeing a process to review Sen. Feinstein's request to make more portions of the report public, the official said.


read more: https://news.yahoo.com/a-warning-on--torture-report--release-233244652.html

. . . I'm anxious to see if someone, anyone from the White House embraces this line. Obviously this is intelligence agency ass-covering at it's most insidious. One more glaring example of the consequences of refusing to prosecute anyone for the crimes and abuses.
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Remember folks: CIA isn't responsible for consequences of its torture, people who inform public are (Original Post) bigtree Aug 2014 OP
Horse shit. Autumn Aug 2014 #1
as if those who were tortured by U.S. don't already KNOW they were tortured! grasswire Aug 2014 #3
It's fucking disgraceful that they are so comfortable they can say shit like that. Autumn Aug 2014 #4
And there in lies the problem malaise Aug 2014 #10
This is pretty much the only sane response BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #12
Lying liars. nt woo me with science Aug 2014 #2
So the old 'National Security' excuse AGAIN! 'The ME is a tinderbox right now'. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #5
+1,000 n/t malaise Aug 2014 #11
Abraham Lincoln Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #6
Black Budget for PR is worth every penny to somebody. Octafish Aug 2014 #7
and the other countries 'where' bigtree Aug 2014 #8
So the people's business is now only for those with the proper clearance. Octafish Aug 2014 #9
Do any of these people have an ounce of integrity? DeSwiss Aug 2014 #13
Part of the CIA interview (in the 80's) was a gay sex proposition. Divernan Aug 2014 #14
K&R woo me with science Aug 2014 #15
is this saying that Feinstein and the executive branch are at odds over the final report? nashville_brook Aug 2014 #16
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #17
Bullshit ReRe Aug 2014 #18

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
3. as if those who were tortured by U.S. don't already KNOW they were tortured!
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 04:03 PM
Aug 2014

It is the American people who don't know what was done.

Those tortured and their families and associates ALREADY know!

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
4. It's fucking disgraceful that they are so comfortable they can say shit like that.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 04:08 PM
Aug 2014

They should be terrified to say one fucking thing.

malaise

(269,144 posts)
10. And there in lies the problem
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 05:00 PM
Aug 2014

The CIA appears to be the Politburo - with way more power than all three CONSTITUTIONALbranches.
Sadly the vast majority of elected and appointed officials appear terrified to rein them in and intervene given the imperial ambitions of those interests that own them.

It's a runaway train heading for disaster.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
5. So the old 'National Security' excuse AGAIN! 'The ME is a tinderbox right now'.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 04:22 PM
Aug 2014

And THIS report could be the 'spark that ignites it'?? Is he kidding? While the American people had no knowledge of what is in that report, the people of the ME know all too well, many from first hand experience.

I have news for this 'intelligence official' desperately seeking a way to stop the release of this report: That tinderbox in the ME was lit the minute we invaded Iraq and killed and tortured so many, many innocent people.

The exact opposite is true. IF WE HAD HELD the War Criminals accountable, acknowledge the crimes and put the torturers where they belong, there might not BE a tinderbox in the ME.

If the release of the report on those war crimes results in justice for the victims in the form of arrests and prosecutions, that could act like a little rain on the fire currently burning over there.

They really do think we are stupid.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
6. Abraham Lincoln
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 04:25 PM
Aug 2014
He reminds one of the man who murdered both his parents, and then pleaded for mercy on the grounds that he was an orphan. - Abraham Lincoln

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
8. and the other countries 'where'
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 04:45 PM
Aug 2014

. . . are also blacked out.

Reportedly, evidence that proves the ineffectiveness of torture is also edited out.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
9. So the people's business is now only for those with the proper clearance.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 04:57 PM
Aug 2014

Like Booz Allen Hamilton and the Carlyle Group, the owners of Democracy Lite.

Denying the Truth from the American people is BFEE Action. The tactics were used in Chile.

"The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves... l don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist because of the irresponsibility of its own people." -- Henry Kissinger

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
14. Part of the CIA interview (in the 80's) was a gay sex proposition.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 06:02 PM
Aug 2014

One of my law school classmates, who has an Eastern European family background and speaks 4 languages, was recruited by the CIA to come to DC for an interview. At the hotel into which they booked him, they had a guy approach him to solicit sex. He's straight. He wasn't cruising. He saw through it immediately. No, he didn't go with the Agency.


nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
16. is this saying that Feinstein and the executive branch are at odds over the final report?
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 06:44 PM
Aug 2014

seems like it's saying that the White House redactions are above/beyond Sen. Feinstein's, and that this memo supports the heavier WH redactions.

if that's the case then the WH embraces the line regardless b/c it's their redactions that are being objected to.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
18. Bullshit
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 08:33 PM
Aug 2014

Has this been reported anywhere else? Have I missed something somewhere? Has DiFi said anything since last Friday (8-1-14), before PO had his presser, when she said "until further notice"?

Michael Isikoff? Yahoo News?

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