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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsVANDANA SHIVA, BULLSHIT ARTIST: This Week In Pseudoscience
http://www.twipscience.org/news/2014/8/5/q9h838x9mawvrq8fincfenghry209m"On the 1st of August, an article was published on Common Dreams titled 'The Fine Print of the Food Wars'. This letter was penned by none other than pseudoscience heavy weight and the remarkably effective anti-science troll Vandana Shiva. And before we can truly get into the track record of this woman, let's start taking a look at the article in detail.
The first thing that struck me as odd was how loaded the title was. Chronicling the woo of the world, you get to see some impressively titled pieces of crap, but this one was nefariously loaded. Attributing a 'fine print' to the topic immediately places the reader as an outsider from some type of bureaucratic red tape and insinuating a complexity that doesn't exist. It de-humanizes whatever it is we're to be discussing. Secondly is the topic: 'Food Wars'. That word, war, is utilized by the anti-science chemophobic Luddite crowd quite often. It polarizes the discussion about our agricultural practices into two camps, disallowing for any possibility of a middle path of compromise and discussion.
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In the very first two paragraphs, Shiva pulls out an old tactic, making the case that genetically engineered seeds are the only ones patented. In fact, almost all seeds for large scale agriculture are patented; GMO, conventional and organic. As well, she lumps in the technology with Monsanto, despite there being many different producers of GE crops, some of which are competitors in the field. This is especially troubling given Vandana Shiva rather quickly mirrored Mike Adams (owner of Natural News) famous article comparing Monsanto to Nazis and calling for the death of scientists and journalists. (although she took it down once it was apparent people were less than thrilled with the notion of opposition extermination).
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She also makes it a point to mention that she was appointed as an expert to the UN Convention on Biological Diversity and helped to create Article 19.3. She does this because her entire career depends on legitimizing herself despite almost everything she publishes or says in public forums is either hideously distorted from available facts, or just made-up.
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I really hate to have to point out the reality that someone is a huckster, but, in this case, it appears to be needed. Shiva is not someone to be trusted. She has made that very clear, over and over again.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Quickly reading her bio- she is very well educated in both science AND science philosophy.
She is also from India where farmers have committed suicide after being ruined by falling for Monsato's lies.
Dr. Vandana Shiva has fought for changes in the practice and paradigms of agriculture and food. Intellectual property rights, biodiversity, biotechnology, bioethics, genetic engineering are among the fields where Shiva has contributed intellectually and through activist campaigns. She has assisted grassroots organizations of the Green movement in Africa, Asia, Latin America, Ireland, Switzerland, and Austria with campaigns against genetic engineering.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)If you look into the matter with an objective eye, you will see that she is a self-serving, wealthy individual who does not care a lick about accuracy or honesty in anything. This is about reality. Why is that so hard to grasp?
She is not someone anyone should look up to: http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/02/12/vandana-shiva-scandal-deepens-as-beloit-college-botches-response-to-criticism/
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Not to mention the rather unbecoming headline used....rather rude and disruptive, no?
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Can you challenge your preconceived notions?
That is the question.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)Unless you're a devotee of Forbes or the WSJ editorial page.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)vanlassie
(5,681 posts)want to direct me to the criticism. And no, I'm not going to Google it myself.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)You're saying you don't want to know the fully story?
tkmorris
(11,138 posts)I don't have an opinion on this woman. I haven't read enough about her to have one. Your presentation however does absolutely nothing to convince me she is a charlatan. You do not present any sort of reasoned argument, just an assortment of hyperbolic, shouted conclusions. You sound like someone with a huge axe to grind, and the failure to calmly address the points raised by those who respond to you is not making you appear to be objective.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)It's time it was heard.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)ASSASSINATE CHARACTER! PILE ON AD HOMS, STRAWMEN AND JUST LIES. AVOID THE ISSUES. AVERT POLITICS. SAY "PSEUDO-SCIENCE" AND "ANTI-SCIENCE" 30 TIMES! KEEP PILING ON! MAKE HER OUT TO BE A NAZI! ASSOCIATE HER WITH SOME UNRELATED BOZO! SAY "LUDDITE"!
Here's Vandana in her own words, and a current thread about the real issues behind the GMO debate:
Vandana Shiva on the problem with GMO seeds
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025321673
All I'll bother with here is to note that anyone who defames the Luddites is automatically disqualified. It ought to be the new Godwin's law. They had nothing against technology or science. That was the defamation devised by the then defenders of the status quo, from whose playbook the current fake "skeptics" movement borrows. The Luddites sabotaged the machines that were slowly killing people, in protest against a regime of 14-hour-plus days for subsistence wages.
See ya!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025321673
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)ALL CAPS is the only thing you can jump on, because you know that Shiva is a scam artist, and you have no way of supporting her claims with actual evidence.
AWESOME!!!!!
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Cha
(297,497 posts)A small group of beekeepers in Mexico has inflicted a blow on biotech giant Monsanto, which has halted the companys ambitions to plant thousands of hectares of soybeans genetically modified to resist the companys pesticide Roundup.
A district judge in the state of Yucatán last month overturned a permit issued to Monsanto by Mexicos agriculture ministry, Sagarpa, and environmental protection agency, Semarnat, in June 2012 that allowed commercial planting of Roundup-ready soybeans.
The permit authorised Monsanto to plant its seeds in seven states, over more than 253,000 hectares (625,000 acres), despite protests from thousands of Mayan farmers and beekeepers, Greenpeace, the Mexican National Commission for the Knowledge and Use of Biodiversity, the National Commission of Natural Protected Areas and the National Institute of Ecology.
In withdrawing the permit, the judge was convinced by the scientific evidence presented about the threats posed by GM soy crops to honey production in the Yucatán peninsula, which includes Campeche, Quintana Roo and Yucatán states. Co-existence between honey production and GM soybeans is not possible, the judge ruled.
Mexico is the worlds six biggest producer and third largest exporter of honey. About 25,000 families on the Yucatán peninsula depend on honey production. This tropical region produces about 40% of the countrys honey, almost all of which is exported to the EU. This is not small change: in 2011, the EU imported $54m (£32m) worth of Mexican honey.
More:
http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/poverty-matters/2014/aug/08/sweet-victory-beekeepers-monsanto-gm-soybeans
Judi Lynn http://www.democraticunderground.com/110832710
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)... and that's a "victory" for, well, no one.
wisechoice
(180 posts)1993: Order of the Golden Ark, by his Royal Highness Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands for outstanding services to conservation and ecology
1993: "Global 500 Roll of Honour", by UNEP for outstanding environmental work[45]
1993: "Earth Day International Award" by Earth Day International for her dedicated commitment to the preservation of he planet as demonstrated by her actions, leadership and the setting of examples for the rest of the world
1993: "Right Livelihood Award" for pioneering insights into the social and environmental costs of the dominant development process, and her ability to work with and for local people and communities in the articulation and implementation of alternatives
1993: The VIDA SANA International Award, Spain, for her contribution to Ecology and Food Security
1995: The Pride of the Doon Award from Doon Citizen Council, Dehra Dun, India, in recognition of distinguished contributions to the region
1997: The Golden Plant Award (International Award of Ecology), Denmark, for the remarkable contribution for Ecology and Environment
1997: Alfonso Comin Award, Barcelona, Spain, for important contribution both scientifically and personally to the ecologist and feminist movement in India
1998: Commemorative Medal by Her Royal Highness Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn of Thailand on the occasion of the Celebration of the 18th World Food Day, organised by FAO Regional Office for Asia and the Pacific, Bangkok
1998: Medal of the Presidency of the Italian Republic from the International Scientific Committee of the Pio Manzu Centre at Rimini, Italy during the XXIV Pio Manzu International Conference on "The Horizons of Hermes"
2000: Pellegrino Artusi Award, Italy for original contribution to reflections on relations between humans and food
2001: HORIZON 3000 Award of Austria in recognition to rendering useful service for defending Human Rights and Preservation of Peace and for the vision of a world wide fair development in the third millennium
2007 The Blue Planet Award from the German Ethecon Foundation,[46][47] one of the comparatively very few 'grass-root' foundations[48] for her work "with a vision and perspective far beyond the next generation."[49]
2008: The LennonOno Grant for Peace
2009: The Save The World Award
2010: The Sydney Peace Prize[50]
2011: The Calgary Peace Prize from the Consortium for Peace Studies at the University of Calgary[51]
2011: The Doshi Family Bridgebuilder Award, for cultivating mutual understanding between cultures[52][53]
2011: The Thomas Merton Award
2012: The EarthE Award[54]
2013: Honoris causa Laurea (Master of Science degree) in Nutrition Science from the University of Calabria, Italy[55]
Orrex
(63,219 posts)HuckleB
(35,773 posts)If you read some of the background, you'll see that she was given some of these based on her erroneous self-congratulatory resume, which is simply not accurate.
Her statements have been shown to be false over and over again, and no award will ever change that.
https://skepteco.wordpress.com/2013/01/11/rape-of-the-earth/
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)This and other pieces that show the reality about Shiva, debunk her claims. Please stop pushing her lies on people. It is not helpful to anyone. Thank you.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)mr blur
(7,753 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)I've been somewhat leery of her because of her association with Gary Null.
Anyone who doesn't immediately run away from Gary Null quickly gets tainted by his woo stench.
Sid
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Iron Man
(183 posts)I believe the scientists.
Thank you for the article.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)HuckleB
(35,773 posts)"One persistent theme in my writing about scientific topics is that, to optimally serve our own interests, public discourse and decision-making on issues that are highly scientific should be informed by the best evidence and scientific analysis available, not on lies, myths, misconceptions, or raw ideology. I am therefore attracted to topics where I think the myth to fact ratio is particularly high.
Genetically modified organisms (GMO) is one such issue. The propaganda machine seems to be way out in front of the more sober voices trying to correct the record and focus the discussion on reality. I also see GMO as the ideological flip side to global warming denial. In the latter case we seen industry and free-market ideologues sowing confusion and misinformation. They also do the ideology shuffle a dance in which, whenever they are nailed by the facts on one point, they state that their objection is really based on some other point. They never really acknowledge the point, just side-step it.
Anti-GMO activists, in my experience, operate the same way. They have marshaled every possible point they can against GMO, whether or not they are true or valid. When one such point is exposed as a myth, they simply slide over to some other point as their real motivation for opposition, but never give any ground.
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Like any new powerful technology, GMO needs to be studied, monitored, and regulated, which it is. I do not agree with arguments that it is inherently risky, even transgenic GMO, and so far the technology has proven extremely safe. Cries of Frankenfood and impending environmental disaster are little more than ideologically driven fearmongering.
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Novella does a good job covering many of the usual anti-GMO attacks, as well. It's a good read.