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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:32 PM Aug 2014

Johnny McCain: "I Would Be Launching Airstrikes Not Only In Iraq, But In Syria Against ISIS."




I'm sure you would Johnny!
Thats why you ain't the president simply because you love blowing sh*t up WAY TOO MUCH!!........





Today on CNN’s State of the Union with Candy Crowley, Senator John McCain (R-AZ), Member of the Senate Committee on Armed Services, spoke to Crowley about US airstrikes in Iraq, ISIS’ threat to national security, and Obama’s leadership and strategy in the Middle East.

“While the president has continued to say this is an Iraqi problem, this is an Iraqi problem, but it's a United States problem and it is a threat to our national security.” Senator John McCain




TEXT HIGHLIGHTS


McCain on President Obama’s strategy in Iraq: “The president made it clear that this was to avert the humanitarian crisis that they were taking these actions and to protect American military personnel that are in Irbil and Baghdad. That's not a strategy. That's not a policy. That is simply a very narrow and focused approach to a problem which is metastasizing as we speak. Candy, there was a guy a month ago that was in Syria, went back to the United States, came back and blew himself up. We're tracking 100 Americans who are over there now fighting for ISIS. ISIS is attracting extreme elements from all over the world, much less the Arab world. And what have we done?”


McCain on the withdrawal of troops in Iraq: “the consequences of our failure to leave a residual force and our announcement that we are leaving the area in a vacuum of leadership, especially in that part of the world, we are paying a price for it.”


McCain on what he would do in the Middle East: “I would be rushing equipment to Irbil. I would be launching airstrikes not only in Iraq, but in Syria against ISIS. They have erased the boundaries between Iraq and Syria. I would be providing as much training and equipment as I can to - as I said, to the Kurds, and I would do a lot of things that we can not have to wait for Maliki to leave there. And I would be giving assistance to the Syrian - the Free Syrian Army, which is on the ropes right now because we failed to help them. And this all goes back to a number of steps the president took, including a failure to leave a residual force in Iraq.”






full transcript:


http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2014/08/10/senator-john-mccain-on-state-of-the-union-with-candy-crowley-i-would-be-launching-airstrikes-not-only-in-iraq-but-in-syria-against-isis/


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Johnny McCain: "I Would Be Launching Airstrikes Not Only In Iraq, But In Syria Against ISIS." (Original Post) Segami Aug 2014 OP
Make up your mind, McCain RandySF Aug 2014 #1
I'm not sure he has a mind to make up anymore madokie Aug 2014 #3
The thought of making infrastructure go boom Warpy Aug 2014 #35
Lol, that is exactly what I was thinking. Wasn't he FOR supporting Isis in Syria AND sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #16
Why would we help Assad and Russia and Iran? TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #2
We supported them in Libya and in Syria, armed them and funded them. Now we are told sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #22
Specifically, we did not support ISIS nor want to empower them. TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #26
Yes we were supporting them, and we knew it. Just as we supported Al Queda in Libya and we knew it. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #28
Much of what you're asserting here simply isn't true--UNLESS you TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #30
Try the British Parliament. The Brits have changed their minds no doubt after seeing sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #32
If you're talking about the airstrikes, that wasn't about supporting TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #33
Bush's invasion of Iraq left the vaccuum of leadership. muntrv Aug 2014 #4
Correctomundo Dirty Socialist Aug 2014 #7
You're a rich man grampy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2014 #5
I would be...doesn't he have to win a fucking election malaise Aug 2014 #6
McLame still can't accept.... Segami Aug 2014 #10
And apparently neither can the hacks in the media who invite him malaise Aug 2014 #20
This fuck wanted to ARM ISIS last year. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2014 #8
(Facepalm) Dirty Socialist Aug 2014 #13
I was wrong. Please see #15 and #24. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2014 #25
Well, you weren't that far off. He was posing with Neo-Nazis in Ukraine and we went on to support sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #34
To be fair, he wanted to arm the "good" rebels (FSA), not ISIS-- TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #15
That's the Truth! KoKo Aug 2014 #23
You're right, and I was mistaken. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2014 #24
CINDY MCCAIN! You hubby got loose again!!! benld74 Aug 2014 #9
Yeah, you'd think she'd have a tracking bracelet on him by now, wouldn't you? nt Mnemosyne Aug 2014 #17
Wait, wasn't grandpa McCain just recently BFF ' S with ISIS? PoutrageFatigue Aug 2014 #11
Yup! Segami Aug 2014 #21
Recommend! For those who haven't seen these photos.. KoKo Aug 2014 #29
No Johnny, you'd be crashing planes in Iraq and Syria NightWatcher Aug 2014 #12
Sore thing John, but you have to fly the sortie Scootaloo Aug 2014 #14
But not a dime for American roads and bridges, poor children or health care. Vinca Aug 2014 #18
This is why I am glad that JOhn Insane is not President during these times of mfcorey1 Aug 2014 #19
How many wars would McCain have started? liberal N proud Aug 2014 #27
I think he would have been corralled by the PTB...but, he's so useful KoKo Aug 2014 #31
To save time, McCain should just tell us who he doesn't want to bomb. FSogol Aug 2014 #36
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #37
. Agschmid Aug 2014 #38
Didn't he want to topple Assad a while ago? Who does he think would have benefitted from that? n/t Unvanguard Aug 2014 #39
Thank god that man is not president. We'd be well into WWIII if he was. Initech Aug 2014 #40
Run, John, Run. GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #41
Some carpet bombing here, a little nuking over there... Blue Owl Aug 2014 #42

RandySF

(84,279 posts)
1. Make up your mind, McCain
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:34 PM
Aug 2014

You first wanted us to blow up the Syrian government on behalf of ISIS.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
3. I'm not sure he has a mind to make up anymore
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:38 PM
Aug 2014

not sure he had any to begin with actually

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
35. The thought of making infrastructure go boom
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:40 PM
Aug 2014

is the only thing that still excites Johnny. Johnny likes big booms.

I wish the voters of AZ would catch a fucking clue and toss him out. Unfortunately, he's kept in office by all the retired peacetime military types there.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
16. Lol, that is exactly what I was thinking. Wasn't he FOR supporting Isis in Syria AND
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:56 PM
Aug 2014

Libya? He's a bit mixed up. But you can't blame him, everyone is. First we want to 'arm the Syrian rebels/extremists, now they just appeared out of nowhere, we are told, and he apparently hasn't been watching over the past few years and believes that, and are the very worst enemies the US ever had.

He also liked the neo-nazis in Ukraine, probably didn't realize he was posing with them either for a photo op.

Someone, I think it was Dionne, said: There is nothing so dangerous as stupidity in action

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
2. Why would we help Assad and Russia and Iran?
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:37 PM
Aug 2014

The smarter strategy would be to drive ISIS back into Syria and let Assad and Putin go broke and lose troops and $$$ dealing with them, while Iraq hopefully gets its shit together politically and militarily.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
22. We supported them in Libya and in Syria, armed them and funded them. Now we are told
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:02 PM
Aug 2014

they are a huge threat to our National Security. Libya has become a failed state, and why again are we trying to topple yet another government in a foreign country where apparently the majority of the people support it?

How about this for an idea. Why don't we come home and stay out of everyone else's business unless they invade this country? If someone did that now, we wouldn't have enough troops and equipment here to defend ourselves. Remember Katrina? The National Guard was elsewhere 'protecting democracy' while people died in NO.

We are behaving like an Empire. This is what Empires do. Why do we want to be an Empire when we were founded on the basis that Imperialism was bad? And it is, ask the victims of Imperialism, see Africa, the ME, and up to recently S. America. All the problems we see in this places was CAUSED by Imperialism.

We can't solve these problems, certainly not with more of what caused them in the first place. Which leads to the question: What ARE we trying to do, because surely no one is stupid enough to think continually killing people is end terrorism?

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
26. Specifically, we did not support ISIS nor want to empower them.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:07 PM
Aug 2014

Any support we did give them was inadvertent. But our very inability to identify and control these rebel groups effectively (especially given that Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, etc. were doing their own sponsorship thing with weapons and money) meant we should have left Syria totally alone in its civil war.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
28. Yes we were supporting them, and we knew it. Just as we supported Al Queda in Libya and we knew it.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:15 PM
Aug 2014

The stupid thinking is 'get it done by whatever means, then we can deal with the undesirables later'. The enemy of our enemy is TEMPORARILY our friend, until we get what we want. But it never happens that way, does it? Look at Libya, and Afghanistan and everywhere else where these foolish tactics are employed.

It was the reason the UK finally backed away from arming 'rebels'. I guess their long history of Imperialism gives them a bit more perspective on these things, not much, but at least with Syria, as one member of Parliament said 'We are arming people who, if they lived HERE, would be under constant surveillance'.

But those of us who see these things, saw them back in 2003 and since then, get tired of saying 'we told you so', now with Libya also. Because by the time we get to say that, so many have tragically died, been tortured, had their countries destroyed etc.

The solution is to put those who DO see clearly from the beginning, in Power for a change and then maybe we will see some progress over the next century or so.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
30. Much of what you're asserting here simply isn't true--UNLESS you
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:19 PM
Aug 2014

have non-RT, non-blog links to prove it. As far as Libya goes, I have no idea what went on there, I think a lot of it hasn't come out yet. BTW, Britain came up with a plan to arm 100,000 rebels in Syria and presented it to Petraeus, it was scrapped as too ambitious. That was per the Guardian.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
32. Try the British Parliament. The Brits have changed their minds no doubt after seeing
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:22 PM
Aug 2014

evidence of WHO they were supporting.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
33. If you're talking about the airstrikes, that wasn't about supporting
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:23 PM
Aug 2014

rebel groups per se, that was about punishment for chem weapon use. Arming and supporting rebels was a different (thorny) issue.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,713 posts)
5. You're a rich man grampy
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:41 PM
Aug 2014

I'm sure you can buy an F4, the plane you're familiar with, fly over there and bomb the shit out of them.

malaise

(296,102 posts)
6. I would be...doesn't he have to win a fucking election
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:42 PM
Aug 2014

before he would be the fugging President?

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
10. McLame still can't accept....
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:49 PM
Aug 2014

losing the presidency to a black man!

John McCain....The Hero that LOST The Presidency To A Black Man........Can't Be!!

malaise

(296,102 posts)
20. And apparently neither can the hacks in the media who invite him
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:01 PM
Aug 2014

on every fugging program week after week

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
8. This fuck wanted to ARM ISIS last year.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:44 PM
Aug 2014

He posed for pictures with them. He praised them endlessly. Paid news shills may choose to ignore that he's saying EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE SAID ONE YEAR AGO, but fuck them and fuck him. There's no one less qualified to make decisions with respect to the Middle East than John McCain.

PS: I saw the Palin video that's floating near the top of GD today. As such, I don't ever want to hear a word about John McCain's opinion on ANYTHING. he's an incompetent, failed human being.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
34. Well, you weren't that far off. He was posing with Neo-Nazis in Ukraine and we went on to support
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:25 PM
Aug 2014

them also. That was last December.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
15. To be fair, he wanted to arm the "good" rebels (FSA), not ISIS--
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:52 PM
Aug 2014

the trouble is, neither he nor the CIA could tell them apart.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
23. That's the Truth!
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:03 PM
Aug 2014

John McCain wants to bomb everyone ....when he isn't posing in pictures with them....

 

PoutrageFatigue

(416 posts)
11. Wait, wasn't grandpa McCain just recently BFF ' S with ISIS?
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:50 PM
Aug 2014

...I think it's time for him to retire and yell at the kids to get off his lawn on a full-time basis. ..

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
21. Yup!
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:01 PM
Aug 2014




From Right Wing News:

Remember when Sen. John McCain took that tour of Syria with the rebels? This is what he said about it when he came back:

“It was a very moving experience to meet these fighters who have been struggling now for over two years,” McCain said on CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360” on Wednesday night. “And they’re very aware of the battlefield situation and they’re very disturbed about the dramatic influx of Hezbollah fighters, more Iranians, and of course, stepped-up activities of Bashar Assad.”



Here’s one of the photos released to Politico:




Here’s the one ISIS released recently:





ISIS is saying some of the men on that photo fight with them now.
Nice work, Senator.






http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/2014/06/22/photos-of-senator-mccain-chillin-with-isis-leaders-in-syria-before-their-rampage-through-iraq/

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
29. Recommend! For those who haven't seen these photos..
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:18 PM
Aug 2014

Someone should get this up on US Media or tweet bomb it. Every time he shows up in a Photo Op.

He was in Ukraine with the NeoNazi RW Svoboda crowd, too. There were photos posted here...but, I can't locate. Someone ought to suggest that he be investigated for "consorting with the enemy" given his past behavior. But, I bet David Gregory never asks those kinds of questions or shows those photos....so most uneducated viewers find him amusing like a "Get off my lawn" kind of character and don't realize how dangerous he really is in promoting propaganda and attacking Democrats.



 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
14. Sore thing John, but you have to fly the sortie
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:51 PM
Aug 2014

Ten bucks says he gets shot down again. I'd say let the Syrians have him.

mfcorey1

(11,134 posts)
19. This is why I am glad that JOhn Insane is not President during these times of
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:00 PM
Aug 2014

tension and war in the Middle East and around the world. Psycho!!

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
31. I think he would have been corralled by the PTB...but, he's so useful
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:21 PM
Aug 2014

in the role he plays as the "rejected Presidential candidate who won't give up" that he's allowed a lot of airtime to strut and rave his nonsense to the uninformed.

Response to Segami (Original post)

Unvanguard

(4,588 posts)
39. Didn't he want to topple Assad a while ago? Who does he think would have benefitted from that? n/t
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:33 PM
Aug 2014

GeorgeGist

(25,570 posts)
41. Run, John, Run.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:47 PM
Aug 2014

I'd love to see you get your sad creepy ass kicked AGAIN, and AGAIN, and AGAIN.

Blue Owl

(59,103 posts)
42. Some carpet bombing here, a little nuking over there...
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:50 PM
Aug 2014

My what a utopia the world would be if McGrumps were in charge...

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