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'I'm sure you've seen much worse than that': Staggering reaction of uncle of Australian boy, SEVEN, who was pictured brandishing head of slaughtered Syrian soldierhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2721230/Thats-boy-Australian-jihadists-seven-year-old-son-poses-decapitated-head-Syrian-solider.html
Mostafa Sharrouf says Australia should 'forget' about photo of his nephew
Young son of Khaled Sharrouf was photographed holding the severed head in the northern Syrian city of Raqqa
Sharrouf, one of Australia's most-wanted terrorists posted the photo to Twitter last week
He is believed to be fighting with al-Qaeda off-shoot Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
Grandfather Peter Nettleton says he is 'devastated' by the image
Mr Nettleton added that he felt sorry for his daughter Tara Nettleton - the wife of Mr Sharrouf and mother to the young boy
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)A seven year old ain't a fucking member of ISIS.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)...holding the severed head of a Seventh Day Adventist.
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Violet_Crumble
(35,961 posts)The kid isn't, no more than he's ISIS, as that headline says, but what do you expect from crap like the Daily Mail. Sharrouf managed to slip out of Australia with his four kids (not sure where his wife is now) on someone else's passport. The mob online reaction appears to be calls to deport Sharrouf, but there's some problems with that, mainly that he's no longer in Australia to deport, and even if he was, if they want to deport him back to where he was born, that'd be Australia anyway. Instead they should be asking what I am, which is how did someone who's on a no-fly list manage to get through customs using someone else's passport. The end result of that fuck up is that there's now four children in danger, coz that pic and others I've heard of are blatant child abuse. The Australian Federal Police have issued an arrest warrant for Sharrouf, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise he's got no plans to ever come back here...
Here's the story from a reliable and non-sensationalist source. A translation for Americans who aren't familiar with the language of Bogans. 'Youse' translates as 'you all'. It looks like they're a charming family..
Politicians and Muslim community leaders have labelled it sickening, deplorable and shockingly evil.
But Khaled Sharrouf's brother believes Australia should simply "forget" about a photo of his young nephew holding the severed head of a Syrian soldier.
As the shocking image of Sharrouf's son travelled around the world on Monday, Mostafa Sharrouf, a stonemason from Sydney's western suburbs, said: "He's gone, forget about it. He's forgotten about youse. I'm sure you've seen much worse than that."
Sharrouf, 33, slipped out of Australia last year using Mostafa's passport and travelled with his four children to Syria and Iraq, where he has been fighting with the terrorist rebel group Islamic State.
The jihadist from Punchbowl has become Australia's most wanted terrorist and continues to bait authorities from afar by posting images and threats online.
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Community leader Jamal Rifi said the photos could only be taken "by a very sick person".
"His actions are deplorable," he said. "There's a lot of anger within the community because he's doing much more damage to Islam when he's pretending to be defending Islam."
Dr Rifi has known Sharrouf's father for years and spent time with the family at their Chester Hill home.
A court found in 2009 that Sharrouf, who spent four years in prison on terrorism charges, had a troubled upbringing that included violence from his father, illicit drug use and paranoid hallucinations.
"This does not give him an excuse but may explain his behaviour," Dr Rifi said.
Lebanese Muslim Association president Samir Dandan said the photos were "the act of a lunatic".
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/boys-uncle-says-forget-about-photo-of-severed-head-20140811-102t0t.html
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Ever wonder why you can't post a picture of breastfeeding on Facebook but Facebook and Twitter are allowing the proliferation of terrorist recruiting and atrocity propaganda.
ancianita
(36,051 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)when blood-lust is the result of hate and war? No group is more moral than another when it comes to hate. Remember, there are pictures of toddlers, tots, and teens standing under lynching trees with men hanging from the limbs.
bigtree
(85,996 posts). . . be very afraid to question U.S. military and CIA policy - lest you be accused of supporting terrorterrorterrorterrorterrorterror!
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)ancianita
(36,051 posts)of "disbelievers and apostates" of its sects and other religions who have sold out to Western values of government and business. No amount of mocking them, reinterpreting them as terrorists will make them change their momentum right now. They are putting their beliefs into action, and all others who block their way die.
Through their eight year old video and film production studios they've been working on encouraging the rest of the global ummah to get behind their establishment of the promised future caliphate, and it looks as though they might actually eliminate the nation state of Iraq. They are not to be taken lightly simply because, right now, we outgun them.
Republicans are thinking on this, and it behooves Democrats to pay attention to them and not spend time validating each other's rightness about jihad's wrongness when partisan foreign policy debates are looming.
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)and by that, what should we be doing?
are you advocating war?
snooper2
(30,151 posts)one firebomb would work?
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)Is nothing sacred?
lol
ancianita
(36,051 posts)If you're implying that advocating war is the ultimate idiocy, I'd say that a defensive war is justified if we're attacked and clearly know our attackers, and if we don't let such a defensive war be exploited for others' gains.
But we're not in any defensive position.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Well, here is how it is starting out:
"Clanging of the Swords IV"
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=efe_1403037495
ancianita
(36,051 posts)Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)Except if you're a
1. Woman
2. Different religion
3. Believe in freedom of speech
4. And a hundred other things
What could possibly go wrong.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)but just enough to fool gullible and easily brainwashed foreigners.
The ancient cultures and monuments in Iraq and Syria managed to survive for thousands of years before they came along.
This new group is a modern heresy and anyone who knows about religion will tell you that.
ancianita
(36,051 posts)ummah. This debate about their validity and rightness is not ours to have. We need to just watch what they say and do, and how they are received by Muslims. I don't see any large uprisings for or against them in other areas of the world. The silence should tell you something.
Your interpretation is not the last word. Theirs is. You discount them. I believe them and I'm keeping my radar out for internal criticisms from the ummah.
Good luck.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Do ISIS have more rights than the Kurds and people who have lived there for to centuries to dictate their religion to them?
Would you accept foreigners who just turned up and dictated your religion to you?
There is no unified Ummah just as there is no unified Christendom.
ancianita
(36,051 posts)media and watch Muslim produced videos. My position comes from that of an atheist. Dictating religions only interest me insofar as they threaten my way of life as a human woman. I know there's no unified ummah, but I also know that the ummah's decisions on who leads them do not come from what we'd call a unified moderate position, either.
If you want to impugn my credibility, you really shouldn't go there. I'm not doing that with you, so let's dial down on the personal here.
4139
(1,893 posts)eissa
(4,238 posts)to any nonsense talk about funding the "moderate" Syrian opposition. There is no such thing. The Assad regime may not be a bed of roses, but such a picture, along with the atrocities befalling the nation's minorities and women, would be unthinkable before this uprising.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)all Muslims are just terrorists and IDF should be allowed to exterminate them at will? Plenty of terrorist in the world of all stripes of fundamentalism. They all visit discord and mayhem in the name of whichever diety. Endless war is just endless war. Doesn't solve a damned thing for anyone, least of all this little boy and all of the other children like him who are subjected to the hatred harbored by the adults in their lives.
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)I think this is extreme child abuse.
ancianita
(36,051 posts)opulent80
(19 posts)Where ever do they get their ideas.
Kingofalldems
(38,454 posts)Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)JI7
(89,248 posts)including kids and have a picnic ?
there is a reason why things that happened in the past always stay into later generations .
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)so it's a celebration of their values. Once they're taught to behave this way I imagine it's unlikely they'll ever have empathy.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)The ones McCain wanted us to go whole hog with.
That is the opposition to the Syrian govt, a govt that Israel hates, but the same govt that kept peace in Syria for a long, long time.
Now the Syrian people are suffering and partly that is because the Syrian rebels have made use of American weapons that the US left behind in Iraq.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)How many people in the middle east agree or could live under these guys.
Right now you see a LOT of people either doing what they say, or fleeing to some other region.
However I think eventually the people are going to have to get with their program or take up arms and fight them.
I can't believe that in semi secular countries like Iraq and Syria there arent' enough people who don't agree with them to drive them out.
Here in the US we have a militia show up to defend some crazy rancher from the gov't? Imagine what would happen if something like that happened here. Huge guerilla war between the population and the invaders.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)that's in a video I will not post a link to, but if you want to see it,google 50 Soldiers Beheaded And Their Heads Put On Poles Part II
Edit: IT IS QUITE GRAPHIC
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)But since there will NEVER be a clear victory over religious extremists, all we can do is sit back, self reflect, ignore the really gruesome stuff, and pretend a few Juniors for Jesus are just as horrible.
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)A few bad apples always messes things up.
Remember though, Islam is a religion of peace for most of its followers.