I’m tired of White people and the Media pretending that there isn’t a war on Black people

[sheshe2]

Ferguson Police shoots unarmed black kid 10 times
Posted on August 9, 2014 by SouthernGirl2

WTFF? It’s open season on young black boys in America. Shot 10 times? Did he empty his clip? A hunter doesn’t shoot a lion 10 times.

snip

When Black people bring up the obvious racial component of this against the Black community by law enforcement, White people always want to diminish it, and disregard our valid feelings about it.

snip

I want you to find 25 cases where WHITE PEOPLE are MURDERED by the police like this.

Unarmed and choked like Eric Garner in New York.
Standing in a Wal-Mart – a place that sells and shills ACTUAL FIREARMS – with a Plastic BBGuns – being shot down
This young man being shot with his hands in the air.
Being shot in the back ‘ resisting arrest’.
‘Committing Suicide’ while being handcuffed.
Killing a 92 year old woman in her house under a wrong warrant.

http://3chicspolitico.com/2014/08/09/ferguson-police-shoots-unarmed-black-kid-10-times-2/

The Michael Brown Murder in Ferguson, Missouri
Posted on August 11, 2014 by rikyrah

Trudy @thetrudz
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[TW] After a lynching, the body left on tree for a while. 3 reasons. To make images of it. To entertain Whites. Psych warfare on Black ppl



Trudy@thetrudz
And this reason, this context, this history, and this power, *directly* connects to Michael Brown’s execution and his body left in street.

Trudy @thetrudz
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DIRECTLY. It is not a metaphor. It is not a trope. Not use of Black death for non-BP anti-Blackness. His execution = legacy of lynching.
9:11 PM – 10 Aug 2014



BGD @BlackGirlDanger
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Of course. It fits the oppressor’s narrative. RT @AngryBlackLady: now the media is going to focus on looting rather than the shooting.
9:31 PM – 10 Aug 2014

http://3chicspolitico.com/2014/08/11/the-michael-brown-murder-in-ferguson-missouri/

Please rest in peace Michael. We will stand for you now.

[Fred Sanders]

1. I read a media expert who proposed that using the word "war" to describe differences in opinion and

political position creates a polarized debate, with one camp or the other, for the opinion or against it, with no ground in between.

I avoid using the word.

The media focusing on the minor looting and damage and the safety of police, deflecting from the institutional racism/hate, that is the white folks concern, no argument there.

[oberliner]

2. You don't like to "create a polarized debate...

...with one camp or the other, for the opinion or against it, with no ground in between." ?

That is fascinating.

[Fred Sanders]

62. I would also recommend powdered sugar with the cinnamon.

[Squinch]

80. Aaaaand here's that one in every crowd that feels that a thread referring to kids being killed

is cause for levity and parsing of semantics choices.

[Squinch]

110. Aaaaaand here's the one in every crowd that needs to bring up non-sequitur right-wing memes

that they think justify the racist behavior the thread is discussing, but which in reality just spotlight that posters own prejudices.

[alp227]

116. A jury agrees.

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(Facepalm) WE DO! But not in a thread about the St. Louis Police shooting of Michael Brown. This kind of tomfoolery/change-the-subject distraction belongs in Free Republic.

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[Squinch]

120. I will never understand the ones who leave this kind of racist crap with the "fight it out" comment

[alp227]

124. Right wing plants intentionally trying to make DU look bad, I guess. nt

[Squinch]

126. I actually think it is often sincere (though I think it is also often what you say) but that

kind of post is just such a waste of time and brain space, I wish we could all just agree that it doesn't belong here.

Discussionist is one thing. But this is a Democratic site. Made for the purpose of being Democratic. I wish the limits of our tolerance for fools was a little more defined along Democratic platform lines.

[freshwest]

188. Or debate it? Is this DU or Discussionist? Good job, Jury, this is still DU.

[Squinch]

193. Exactly.

If I wanted to have to fight it out about concepts that should be absolutely self-evident to Democrats, I would go to Discussionist. I don't want to have to do that. That is why I am here instead.

[freshwest]

187. Can. Not. Believe. I. Saw. That. Here.

[brush]

112. Talk about white on white murder in Aurora or Sandy Hook . . .

why don't you? Get out of here with the false equivalence bullshit.

Most murders are done by people of the same race — and that includes whites.

[tblue37]

115. But I bet most murders of unarmed black people

by cops are committed by white cops.

That is not the same issue as the killing of one non police officer by another.

[brush]

160. Maybe you didn't get to see the hidden post that I responded to

Last edited Wed Aug 13, 2014, 03:10 AM - Edit history (1)

The poster tried to hijack the thread away from police killing black men with something alone the lines of —
"lets talk about all the black on black killings."

That's what my post was in response to. I agree with the OP against white cops needlessly killing young black men.

[TheKentuckian]

175. It doesn't matter if a cop is black they still work for an a racist institution

on duty black police are no different than a white cop. They do the same shit and back each other over the public.

Some reflection is always a good thing but it isn't anywhere near the root of the problem, just a rationalization to do something without actually changing the systems and institutions.

[brush]

176. I think you responded to the wrong post

I said nothing about white or black cops in my post.

Of course I'm against cops, white or black, shooting unarmed people, black or white or brown.

[TheKentuckian]

179. Yep, it was meant for the post above your's. Touch screen slip.

[bravenak]

113. Why?

Would that make you feel more comfortable? Talking about civilians killing civilians, rather than cops murdering black people? It seem like your saying that this should not be discussed until there are no more black criminals. Sad.

How come you didn't talk about white on white crime? Theres more of that anyway. Or the fact that serial killers and spree killers and mass murderers in America are mostly white?

I always think negative things when people trot out that black on black crime card to minimize the deaths of black youth murdered by white men.

[sheshe2]

153. It's what they do, bravenak.

They do it to minimize and negate that a crime against a child/ young man of color was committed. No, the facts are not in yet, however there is no way this is playing out any other way. You do not empty your weapon into a "suspect" with their hands over their head. That child was murdered.

[bravenak]

157. And they need to arrest that murderer.

Paying him to stay home is no doubt pouring oil on the fire. It looks so suspicious the way they are handling this. So suspicious. It's sad that a cop is more likely to shoot a kid than toss him his ball back or something. Cops should be interacting with the community and watching these kids grow up, get to know the neighborhood and the people. This way is wrong.

[sheshe2]

159. They haven't released his name yet either....

they fear death threats.

Guess that should have been thought through before he emptied his gun on that child.

Fuck him! Sorry about the language.

[freshwest]

189. That comment was conservative boilerplate talk. It's either that or 'Chicago.' It's not from caring.

[sheshe2]

152. Disheartening is it not Squinch.

And so totally expected to appear in this OP. Always in 3...2...1! Top of the thread.

[Squinch]

164. When the FIRST post in a thread on this issue, the issue of KIDS BEING KILLED, is a derailment

based on someone's perfectly accurate word choices, I want to bang my head against a wall. Thinking that this issue is a place to make inane points in an argument, like they think they're on the college debating team. I can't imagine the smallness and meanness of a mind that would do that. And it makes me literally nauseous to see that there are so many here, on a supposedly liberal site, who are that small- and mean-minded.

Sheshe2, my dear, sometimes it seems like the assholes will always outnumber us.

[sheshe2]

3. This is polarizing! This is indeed a war, when tis is allowed....

Something is VERY wrong in America when a white man aiming down on police gets a pass and nothing happens but an unarmed black kid walking down the street is shot 10 times.





Young black boys can’t even walk down the street or it could be a death sentence. How do we protect our kids from racists police and vigilantes? Marching isn’t working.

Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka
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White militia points guns at officials. Hailed as patriots. Unarmed black teen not seen as a human being. Shot 10 times by cops. America.
8:59 PM – 9 Aug 2014

[Tumbulu]

41. And it has been wrong for such a long time!

And somehow it seems to be getting worse.....I am so so sad about this!

[sheshe2]

55. Yes, it is getting worse each and every day.

I am sad and I an outraged!

[tblue37]

88. It keeps getting worse because they keep getting away with it. nt

[Solomon]

139. Face it. its getting worse because we have a black president.

Face it.

[tblue37]

141. No doubt that is part of it, but the absolute freedom from

consequences that police enjoy when they abuse their authority is also an important part of it.

[IrishAyes]

145. Having once been half of a bi-racial couple - my fiance was MURDERED -

I have a hard time with people who try to claim there is no war against blacks. I've seen too much of it myself. No excuse for people trying to deflect/distract/diminish the issue by tossing in other matters, some of which make no sense at all. They sound like Palin-Backmann batshit crazy talk.

Lately it seems as if the flood gates have opened. I'm still reeling from the murder of that kid with a TOY rifle in the TOY aisle. Yeah, it sure must've looked suspicious alright. Right now I'm so damned sick to my stomach I could puke.

[sheshe2]

154. So sorry for your loss Irish.

They can deny the war all they wish, yet when a child of color is gunned down in the street, they need to STFU and listen. I read he had a shot in his back. Ten shots all told. No, it has not been proven.

Yes, the flood gates are open.

[IrishAyes]

158. And who on earth actually, really thinks a white kid would've been gunned down

in the toy aisle for holding a TOY rifle? I'm not trying to derail the OP. All these murders are horrifying.

Thus OATS bus driver I used to go through such hell with is dead from natural causes now, btw. Strangest thing in the world, but people who are that horrible to me are usually dead within 5 years at the least. Has nothing to do with me. Their hate, which spills out on others just as much, is what kills them. Then I can more easily put them out of my mind.

But I swear I'll dance on Pig Boy's grave when he dies.

[Curtis]

56. I wish we could recommend replies

Like your reply. I mean I rec'd your post too. I just like this reply even more

[sheshe2]

57. Thank you Curtis.

[akbacchus_BC]

156. I share your sentiments, this is so sad! But the shooters are never

going to get prosecuted. Instead, they get their salaries, work behind a desk and the status quo supports them. Meanwhile, the victim's parents do not get any justice. What has America come to, blacks kids are now targets! This is not the first time nor will it be the last, sad to say!

Anyone who defends this cop is not being democratic!

[mulsh]

61. What term should we use "The dissagreement" of "Kerphuffle" with black people?

War is the accurate term for what's being done. Parsing is a delaying and neutralizing tactic.

There is an aggressive and well document war on black people occurring just as there is an aggressive and well documented war on women.
I'm appalled that more people don't recognize that what is being done to one group can just as easily be done to all of us.

[Fred Sanders]

64. I see a lot of anger, I see a lot of manipulation, I do not see a war except in the Middle East. I

stand with my media expert, the word is overused and inappropriate in this context.

[noiretextatique]

71. great...you have the privilege to be no blind

Good for you. Some of us are not so lucky.

[Squinch]

81. You and your media expert don't see it. That's nice dear. The rest of us do.

[heaven05]

87. right!!!!

but, no surprises with this response.

[1StrongBlackMan]

103. Since DU would have Websters be the definitive word ...

I give you, the following:

war
noun, often attributive \ˈwȯr\

: a state or period of fighting between countries or groups

: a situation in which people or groups compete with or fight against each other

: an organized effort by a government or other large organization to stop or defeat something that is viewed as dangerous or bad

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/war

How does the term NOT apply?

[Warpy]

129. No kidding. I see militarized police who have largely declared war against young black men

If they can't find a reason to send them to prison, they shoot them.

What these people in deep denial don't realize is that when these militarized cops who see themselves as part of an occupation run out of black targets, they'll just start on the rest of us.

That's not a threat, people. It's a prediction.

[1StrongBlackMan]

136. I'm starting to think ...

if it's not happening to straight, white males, it's not happening.

How else to explain the concern about looting and the increase of guy sales?

[Warpy]

140. Well, I think a lot of those sales are to people who see those cops

and think they'll have to defend their little slice of suburban heaven from them eventually. They're not far wrong but civilian popguns aren't going to do any good against the Guard once it's been called in to pacify the population by slaughtering half of them.

But you're right about our news media, blow dried pretty people waddling around with their heads up their butts not noticing unless it starts happening to their own class.

[1StrongBlackMan]

142. I doubt that. eom

[bravenak]

114. You think the word war is used too much but not genocide?

Fred. Rethink that.

[MohRokTah]

118. .

Yeah, no war. Hell, our troops aren't this geared up in a combat zone:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--7638rP1k--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/weoz24awjfxbw5vzyadp.jpg

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--fWHuXn3x--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/xszcmhiuir2rcv9m2zfp.jpg

[stranger81]

70. In this case, however, use of the word "war" doesn't create a new polarization.

It's an apt description of an already existing and longstanding polarization. What's being done to the African American community by police forces across the country IS a war, and I don't see any point in mincing words about it.

[Louisiana1976]

96. Exactly. The expression "War on blacks" is appropriate in this situation.

[Jackpine Radical]

78. Kinda like the difference between "war" and "genocide,"

if I read you correctly.

[tblue37]

89. I was just thinking that his limitations on the word "war" would have

made it similarly inappropriate to use the label "war on Jews" to describe the Holocaust.

[eridani]

99. In this case it's appropriate--it is an actual SHOOTING war n/t

[1StrongBlackMan]

102. How is describing the focus on Black folks, particularly ...

young, Black men, describing differences in opinion and/or political position(s)? And where is there ground in between? Either Black folks are empirically being targeted, or not?

Please tell me I have misread your comment.

[Cha]

4. It's tragically surreal how ill equipped some of these policemen are to

handle situations that shouldn't be deadly but end up in overkill like they're on crack laced with steroids.

Michael Brown Mahalo she

[sheshe2]

7. It has to stop Cha.

The victims keep coming far to fast. The young bodies are stacking up.

Police or the self righteous that believe that they can shut down anyone one they please. They are walking while black and they are dying.

Eric Garner, Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, Renisha McBride and so many others.

Someone suggested the other day that all police must wear video recorders. I don't know where I read that, but they said that police violence dropped in CA. I think, after wearing them. IMHO it should be mandatory.

[littlemissmartypants]

43. Uncle Joe did.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5362665
I think they should have microchips, among an elongated list of other things. . .

[sheshe2]

46. Thank you for the link!

I gotta go in a few. Have to work tomorrow. This thread has upset me. Another sweet child died for no reason.

Glad this got a hide...and no, I didn't alert.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025372075#post22

[littlemissmartypants]

54. It wasn't me.

But I thought about it. Love you! Nite.

[littlemissmartypants]

44. Like these...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5365278

[Spitfire of ATJ]

51. Too many act like it's a war zone out there..... It's a NEIGHBORHOOD!!!!

[littlemissmartypants]

58. Exactly. eom

[ZombieHorde]

5. K&R&NT

[Cha]

6. A message from Michael Brown's Mother, she..

Yamiche Alcindor ✔ @Yamiche
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Mother of #MikeBrown told me: "He was really good at ... taking things apart and putting them back together. He was almost like a healer."
7:10 AM - 11 Aug 2014 63 Retweets 31 favorites

TOD

[sheshe2]

10. That makes me cry, Cha.

As does this!

Michael Brown case: Black shooting victims face trial by social media



Shortly after Michael Brown was gunned down by police in Ferguson, Missouri on Saturday, an image of him wearing a red tank top, a serious face and throwing up two fingers, began circulating in the press. Social media users wondered whether the image had been selected to make Brown look intimidating, as a way of justifying the use of lethal force on an unarmed teen.

A competing image of Brown, looking shy and self-deprecating inside what appears to be some kind of arcade, began circulating as well. Black Twitter users began posting their own contrasting images of themselves under the hashtag #iftheygunnedmedown, exposing the shortcomings of reducing a human being to a single out of context picture.

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Even after their deaths, black victims of shootings face trial by social media. Shortly after Trayvon Martin was killed in 2012, supporters of George Zimmerman, who was later acquitted of murder charges in connection with shooting Martin, began circulating tweets and photographs that they believed “proved” Martin was not the sweet innocent teenager being portrayed in the media. A popular chain email featured a photograph of rapper The Game as the “true” Martin, tattooed and muscular, a delusional retroactive justification of his death. Accounts describing Renisha McBride, who was shot to death on a Michigan porch for the crime of seeking help after a car accident, seemed to emphasize her blood alcohol level even after her shooter was convicted of murder.

It’s as if lethal force is justified not by the objective circumstances, but by whether or not ancient racial fears have made the use of such force seem reasonable. Victims are not only put on trial, but pronounced guilty based not on their actions but on whether or not they fit a stereotype.

Read More: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/black-shooting-victims-face-trial-social-media

[Cha]

36. So sad for Michael's family, loved ones, and everybody who can't

take the unfathomable needless acts by the police on our Black brothers and sisters.. and all Americans. she.

[littlemissmartypants]

45. You are so right. We are being assaulted.

We stand for him now.

Love, Peace and the Righteous Fight.

[freshwest]

194. That picture of his grieving mother who sprinkled rose petals on her son's blood...

Was going to be one of pictures in an OP I was planning to make. But I'm very busy right now. I'll get back to you on the other as soon as I can.

[sheshe2]

195. Take your time sweets....no hurry.

Use the pic, freshwest.

[littlemissmartypants]

26. ...

[mcar]

117. I watched that interview

Heartbreaking, tragic. She is the picture of grace in grief, much like Trayvon's mother.

Michael sounds like he was a wonderful child. He deserved to become a wonderful man.

[Cha]

151. ..

[littlemissmartypants]

8. Is it symbolic subliminal assassination?

Do they want to kill my President?

How sub does subliminal go?

I saw this on a vehicle today.

This sh*t scares the crap right into the air out of me.



What is WRONG with people?

[sheshe2]

16. So much hate and yes racism. has it escalated since Obama took office

Last edited Tue Aug 12, 2014, 01:36 AM - Edit history (1)

Has it escalated since Obama took office? Yes I believe that it has.

Outrage in Ferguson after police shooting of unarmed teenager Michael Brown
A Ferguson protester chants "Don't shoot!" at police in riot gear.



On August 9, Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager, was killed by a police officer in the St. Louis suburb of Ferguson, MO. Eyewitnesses to the shooting report that Brown was killed while attempting to surrender, but police say that Brown assaulted the officer before the shooting.

The incident provoked immediate anger and frustration in the community and around the country. The killing of Eric Garner, also an unarmed black man, by New York City police last month revived a public conversation about the history of police violence against black men, and the killing of Brown has inflamed it.

Tweet


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"Hands up! Don't shoot!" Words of #MikeBrown #vigil attendees
12:08 AM - 11 Aug 2014

http://3chicspolitico.com/2014/08/09/ferguson-police-shoots-unarmed-black-kid-10-times-2/

[littlemissmartypants]

19. Chilling. I feel sick. nt

[sheshe2]

21. I am crying, lmsp

I despair for our country and our sweet people.

[littlemissmartypants]

25. I am physically ill. The babies kneeling.

Hands in the air.

I just want to be THEIR human shield.

We have to have hope
and remember pressure makes a diamond from a lump of coal.

I love you, sheshe2.
Thanks for your post.

[tblue37]

90. I was a child in the North when the TV news shows actually showed films of the attacks by

police on peaceful Black Civil Rights marchers.

Watching the way Bull Conner and his cops attacked peaceful Black families, including children and the elderly, with police dogs and firehoses (which can strip the bark off of trees!) was the spark that woke up a lot of complacent white Northerners to the institutional violence that Blacks really faced in the deep South.

[kentauros]

33. "What is WRONG with people?"

Mental illness. And we can thank Reagan for defunding mental institutions (and beginning the dumbing down of public education.)

Honestly? I think the same explanation holds true for these violent police officers. If the police forces truly cared, psychological testing would be rigorous and catch a larger percentage of these mentally unstable people before they got the "right" to use such over-the-top force on people.

[littlemissmartypants]

35. Agreed.

We probably have a higher prevalence than we could ever know because we let it live on the streets and figuratively sweep it into the street grate.
You can't accurately track and trend something that you don't care about in the first place.
What can we do?
Brace for impact?

[kentauros]

42. The only "solution" that comes to mind

isn't much. Just that we have to insist that our local elected officials do something about our police departments. They can, and I've seen it happen, like it did in Houston after Kathy Whitmire was elected. HPD had become famous for the throw-down gun in the Webster case, and she managed (with the appointment of Lee Brown to Police Commissioner) to clean up the mess that was HPD back then.

[steve2470]

9. things are really bad again tonight in Ferguson

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Ferguson&src=tyah

According to twitter reports, the media was kicked out of the area.

[Shandris]

11. It was looking bad for a while but some local media are playing again.

There is good reporting going on on http://www.reddit.com/live/tdrph3y49ftn/. They have some people on the ground, no pontificating just reporting and quick corrections on things that aren't accurate.

However, it thankfully seems to mostly be dying down and not much, if anything, in the way of injuries.

[sheshe2]

13. IMHO the media is for the most part useless.

However if the police are telling them to clear the area, then I am scared. I know someone will tell me the FBI sucks, yet i am glad they are there and this is not just being run by the local police department.

Please read this too, steve.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025372075#post10

[steve2470]

14. thanks for that

Yes I'm glad the FBI, DOJ and NAACP are involved.

[Fred Sanders]

63. The people that intervened and helped defuse the situation...they are not in the war, they did not

buy the media message to pick sides and dig in.

Blessed are the looting preventers.

[1StrongBlackMan]

105. Yes because looting is so much more the point ...

BTW, how appropriate your avatar!

[Fred Sanders]

106. I am not just another blank face.

Isn't judging a person by their looks, or avatar, limited choices here, not part of the problem?

[1StrongBlackMan]

109. Not particularly ...

but please feel free to select a 1950s image of the good old days when lecturing people who are aghast at the treatment of Black people, while expressing your horror that stores get looted.

The tone deafness is strong in your faceless self.

[Ecumenist]

203. ....

"None are so blind as those who WILL not see...."

[Brigid]

104. Looks like a "long hot summer" for Ferguson.

Older DUers will get the reference.

[alcibiades_mystery]

12. Hear hear

[lovemydog]

15. To those who say 'it's not a war' I would say

fine, call it what you wish. But there is pervasive racism in our society, as reflected by the disproportionate percentage of minorities in prison. Our country has an enormously high percentage of its population incarcerated, as compared with other countries.

We must address this in ways that are advantageous to all of us. It's a massive drain on resources to lock people up and spend all that tax money trying to forget about them. There's so much more one can say if one takes a hard look at things.

This dialogue does not end with a disagreement over a term. In fact, it should just be starting. And it should go on and on and on. Every one of us should be talking about this with friends. Online. To our representatives.

Get involved in your community! To help reduce racism! Reduce ignorance! You will benefit from it! I guarantee it! Let love in!

Thanks for this thread she!

[littlemissmartypants]

47. Agreed, lovemydog.

I am trying. But things get hard sometimes.
nt

[lovemydog]

48. They sure do get tough sometimes.

In those cases, don't be too tough on yourself. Enjoy your online friends. Like me!

[LuvNewcastle]

17. Things have never been good for

black people in this country. I don't know if it's a war or just pathological racism. It certainly isn't limited to a particular area or a certain type of person. It infects people from all walks of life and it's all ovef the country. The proliferation of guns in the country haa made matters worse. If we aren't in a war now, I fear we're going to have one.

[jen63]

72. Pathological racism

is war imo. It needs to stop, by what ever means possible. It is in direct contrast to everything our country is supposed to be. It demeans and dehumanizes us. I just don't understand it, or the people who perpetuate it.

[Louisiana1976]

97. Well said. And welcome to DU.

[jen63]

108. Thank you!

Glad to be here. Yall are helping me keep my sanity in this sea of red I live in!

[lib87]

18. Thank You She!!!

These images are becoming more and more frequent. And you're right, the media is no good. They do not like to bring up race being the major factor which is doing a disservice to many viewers. Dismissing race is quite the privilege many don't want to give up.

[littlemissmartypants]

49. Agreed. ..

I think it is deeper than that but I feel you.
How does one dismiss something never acknowledged?
Destroy it.

[uponit7771]

69. +1

[obxhead]

20. Yep.

I wish I could add more... I could actually from my confrontations with those sworn to PROTECT us, but I won't. Who knows what will come up the next time i get pulled over.

I can't imagine what it would be like with tinted skin. I know how it is being of the pasty white variety.

[sheshe2]

23. If that is what you got from this...

then you have no open mind and it would be useless for me to continue.

BTW. I am white and I am outraged!

[flvegan]

30. I'd be tired of all people doing so.

No matter the color nor the employment.

But then, I guess my mind isn't open.

But, if you were "tired" of certain individuals, I'd probably leave it to blame them specifically rather than generalize. With that, I'll sit here at suffer the wrath of the insufferable idiots that fail to comprehend the point.

[sheshe2]

39. Really...

You say...

Is it safe to say, from your post then, that you hate white people?

That's all I got from it. I'd like to hear all your opinions and arguments and I'll carry an open mind.

Then you continue

I'd be tired of all people doing so.
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No matter the color nor the employment.

But then, I guess my mind isn't open.

But, if you were "tired" of certain individuals, I'd probably leave it to blame them specifically rather than generalize. With that, I'll sit here at suffer the wrath of the insufferable idiots that fail to comprehend the point.

This post? It's not about you unless you want to make it so.

It is about a dead child.

Here is where he died. Ten bullets for an unarmed child.


http://3chicspolitico.com/2014/08/09/ferguson-police-shoots-unarmed-black-kid-10-times-2/

Here is where he is mourned



http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/black-shooting-victims-face-trial-social-media

[Squinch]

82. Your obtuseness is so droningly consistent that by now it's just boring.

[tblue37]

91. I am *equally* tired of it, flvegan, even though I am a white

redhead.

Does that mean that I must also "hate white people"?

Sheesh!

[Squinch]

111. Hey! Another white redhead here that flvegan appears to assume hates white people!

We should make a club!

[mcar]

119. White and blonde here

I'm sick of it too. Children shouldn't be shot to death for walking on the street, then left for hours. This is a travesty.

[Squinch]

121. I don't know if I am more disgusted by that or by a kid being killed for holding a toy. When

psychos have open carry festivals at starbucks, and point their guns at protesting mothers, but nothing happens to them. When other psychos point weapons at US marshals and openly advocate treason and nothing happens to them. But god forbid a black kid walks on a street, or steps into a Walmart or buys a bag of Skittles.

Yeah, I'm sick of it. We are barbarians.

[tblue37]

127. We could call ourselves "The Red-Headed League." Maybe someone would even write a story about us. nt

[Squinch]

128. The Red-Headed Flvegan Floggers.

[tblue37]

131. I was riffing on the Sherlock Holmes story of that name. nt

[Squinch]

134. I am shocked to say that I have never run across it!

[tblue37]

135. Ah, well--I teach college English, so I sometimes forget that

not everyone's life revolves around poetry or fiction.

If you like Sherlock Holmes, you can probably find the story online.

[Squinch]

137. I'll look for it.

[tblue37]

138. No need--I already located it for you:

http://etc.usf.edu/lit2go/32/the-adventures-of-sherlock-holmes/346/adventure-2-the-red-headed-league/

[Squinch]

165. Thank you!

[tkmorris]

24. Jesus fucking wept...

That's what you took from sheshe's post? Seriously?

[bravenak]

27. Look at you.

I bet you feel victimized.

[tblue37]

92. He must be readying his #notallwhitepeople tweets even as we speak! nt

[littlemissmartypants]

29. Not safe at all. eom

[nomorenomore08]

31. Please tell me you're being sarcastic... Just a little...

Signed, another white guy outraged at the state of things.

[Bjorn Against]

34. If that is all you got out of it your mind is not open

[laundry_queen]

50. +1 nt

[La Lioness Priyanka]

79. truth. nt

[Purveyor]

28. I'm tired of 'people' et. al. so there, that must also include all of youse. eom

[littlemissmartypants]

32. First one chosen group. Then who ?

Once you begin to accept a culture of seeing
some lives as a threat to be annihilated then
there comes a tipping point where all lose their value,
subjugated to be annihilated.

Life loses its value.
We stop living in each other's moccasins.
See only each other as rivals and threats.


It is the power and control cycle of abuse.
Spiraling.
Circling the drain.

[MannyGoldstein]

37. +1 nt

[VanGoghRocks]

162. Reads like a poem. Sincere hat tip!

[nomorenomore08]

180. Life is cheap. Cheaper and cheaper all the time, it seems.

[adirondacker]

207. +1000! Beautiful!. nt

[cprise]

38. A slice of the psychology is on the 'Investigation Discovery' channel

The channel is dedicated to real life murder investigations (or their narratives of such) in a docudrama format.

Having been exposed to much (actually most) of their programming between 2010 and 2013 by a housemate, I'd say that about 98% or more of the victims portrayed on I.D. shows are white. IOW, there is no room for empathy for non-white people on that channel and their staff probably consider it a risk to ratings and ad revenue to put cases of black or hispanic or Asian victims in front of their audience.

No amount of gumshoeing could have predicted that the new iteration, Investigation Discovery, would be an instant hit. For two years, it has billed itself--with gusto--as "America's fastest-growing network," and the numbers bear it out. When the channel debuted in 2008, ID ranked No. 55 in cable ratings for women ages 25 to 54; in total, it was in fewer than 60 million homes. Through February 2012, it has jumped to third in that demo and added more than 30 million new subscriptions.

http://www.fastcompany.com/1826849/discoverys-true-crime-id-network-boosts-ratings-original-programming

If society can't empathize with people who look like you, then their default reaction will be to consider you a threat.

[LeftyMom]

40. I'm sorry some people don't get it.

My kid's an official teenager as of a few months ago. In a year and a half or so I'll have to give him a speech in dealing with a traffic stop, but it will be "how to maybe talk your way out of a ticket or at least not make it worse" and not "how to avoid getting unjustly arrested, beaten or shot" because he's more likely to be struck by a meteor.

It's terribe that other mothers have to deal with raising children with a legitimate fear of police violence. Being a parent is hard enough in this world.

People need to put themselves in each other's shoes and show compassion.

[littlemissmartypants]

52. Indeed. eom

[1StrongBlackMan]

155. I, still, remember the "talk" my Dad (R.I.P.) had with me ...

and he was a Cop. It hurt my heart when I repeated "the talk" (20 years later) with my nephews and a couple of kids I mentor.

[DesertDiamond]

53. There are a lot of white people who see the injustices, me for instance. And who think it's bizarre

that white guys who call themselves "Open Carry activists" are allowed to wander around in public with automatic assault weapons, endangering the public, while unarmed African Americans are being killed without provocation. What to do about it? Here's what I'm doing.

In Buddhism this time was predicted and called the Age of Mappo, the Age of Confusion, when everything is upside down and backwards. It's the time when darkness is trying to take over. How do we fight that darkness? There is only one way -- to begin with transforming our own inner selves, defeating any darkness we have, and helping others to do the same.

A very wise man named Daisaku Ikeda said, "Human revolution is the work of transforming our lives at the very core. It involves identifying and challenging those things which inhibit the full expression of our positive potential and humanity. Nichiren Buddhism is based on belief in a pure, positive and enlightened condition of life which exists equally within all people. This life state of 'Buddhahood' is characterized by the qualities of compassion, wisdom and courage, which enable us to create something of value from any situation."

In a nutshell, eventually our light will be too strong for the darkness. Then we will have justice and peace for everyone.

Yes, this sounds simplistic, but it's the only thing that will work. And it WILL work. It's been predicted that this is our time to create world peace, and that we will in fact accomplish it. Please join us!

[Maedhros]

83. Kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight.

- Bruce Cockburn

[AverageJoe90]

123. A rather interesting perspective, IMHO.

[Squinch]

130. I don't want to hijack this thread with this, but this is a very interesting post. I'd love to

see it as an OP, because I have questions.

[Hekate]

59. Sheshe....

but don't forget

[Scuba]

60. Excellent post, she. Thanks.

[treestar]

65. K&R

The main reason SYG should only apply in your house, not out there in public. This is getting insane.

[Robbins]

66. I agree

And I am white.

At minuem the cops who do this should be fired.

unarmed person shot 10 times is unexcusable.

I can also call a lot of the tea party for what they truly are-Racist Party.They are like the new KKK.And just look at times at their
signs if you think I am wrong.

There Is war on blacks.Of course admiting the truth means your playing the race card.

[Mr Dixon]

67. SMH

There has always been a War on Black men nothing has changed; the only difference is the speed of the reporting because of the internet. The corporate own media can’t keep up, once they do have the story they have to wait for the narrative from the Big Bosses, then cut and paste the aggressive photo of the victim to scare white people and it works. The only way to change this spoon fed non-sense is to research the issue yourself and not let the Media tell you what to think, who I’m I kidding that will never happen.

[Savannahmann]

68. Saturday Afternoon I was talking with a friend of mine.

He's black, I am not. I said that racism didn't end with some court case in the 1960's, it only ends when people decide to live together. We decide to live together, or not. He agreed. We agreed that there are people of every race that have no intention of living with anyone who isn't of their own race. There are some Whites like that, and some blacks, and brown, yellow, red, blue, green and purple. There is always going to be someone who doesn't want to get along with, live and let live, with someone who is different.

I am heartened that some Whites showed up at the Michael Brown memorials. I am disappointed that some people only saw the color of their skin. I'm nearly a thousand miles away, and I think I'd have gone if I was there. Because these kinds of travesties affect us all, white, black, brown, red, yellow, blue, green, and fuschia.

I'm tired of seeing people gunned down by the police. I want it to stop, now.

[abakan]

73. In New Mexico..

The murdering bastards are not particular about who they kill. They'll kill you no matter what color you are. On September 16, 1995, my brother was shot down by an Albuquerque cop. He was in his house and was answering the door with a phone in his hand. The cop screamed gun, emptied his gun,reloaded and emptied it again. Once they were in the house they waited for him to bleed to death before they called for help. They also planted a gun at his feet before anyone else got there. The year my brother was killed made him one of about 20 that year and it has been going on ever since.

[amandabeech]

125. Very sorry about your brother.

The Albuquerque police have been in the national news recently, and not for their good deeds.

They really need to make major changes in that police department.

**sigh**

[abakan]

174. Thank You...

My mother fought them as hard as she could, but there is some corruption, dug in so far, justice is not possible.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

74. there has been a perpetual war on blacks since the age of empire. nt

[KeepItReal]

75. Looks like a war to me

Ferguson, Missouri:

[mountain grammy]

94. Yep, that's a war.

[JustAnotherGen]

166. That is such a powerful image

Every time I see it - I cry a little inside.

[Tarheel_Dem]

76. Speak on it!

[Squinch]

77. I agree, and I'd like to slap the people who see this thread as a place to complain about semantics.

Kids are dead for no reason.

[nomorenomore08]

181. +1000

The tone-deafness and self-centeredness is disgusting.

[tomm2thumbs]

84. under the color of authority - ironic name

/nt

[heaven05]

85. GOOD!!!!

sheshe, nailed it and the current eradication process going on. Could it be because of anger and fear of that brown man in the white house and others like the 'peace' officers in those 'incidents' trying to keep black people in their place? Something that has been going on for centuries in this country is escalating into something, I feel, will be real ugly. nuff said, you said it brilliantly.

[tblue37]

86. Excellent (longish) article on Alternet by Chauncey DeVega :

It is worthwhile to read the whole piece.

http://www.alternet.org/speakeasy/chaunceydevega/black-body-always-threat-white-racial-paranoia-killed-eric-garner

The Black Body is Always a Threat: White Racial Paranoia Killed Eric Garner

Black life is cheap in America. The historical irony is, of course, that the fluctuations in the value placed on black life, and the labor output it produced, were the basis of America's economy for centuries.

<snip>

America was and remains a lynching society--where black bodies were once hung from trees, burned alive, cut apart, or otherwise brutalized by blood thirsty white mobs comprised of men, women, and children, now black people are shot dead by white cops and white street vigilantes.

<snip>

In the United States, the black body is a crime. The black body deserves punishment. The black body is somehow dangerous and especially provocative. To be in the black body means that you are de facto a criminal until proven innocent. The legal dictate of innocent until proven guilty is inverted. Black humanity is existential criminality.

In the White racial imagination, Eric Garner provoked his own killing, Trayvon Martin's iced tea and candy were deadly weapons, Renisha McBride should have been shot in the face because she knocked on a stranger's door, Jonathan Ferrell was a giant black beast who scared the police, and Jordan Davis was "disrespectful" and "uppity", his "loud" music constituting an assault and threat that should be met with lethal force by any "reasonable" person. Lynching victims were killed by the same white logic too. They transgressed white authority and white norms. In doing so, the black lynching victim committed a type of suicide <emphasis added>.

<snip>

[JustAnotherGen]

167. Thanks for this - I want to read in depth later!

[1StrongBlackMan]

93. Posted to for later comment(s) ...

I have read a couple posts (by good "liberal" folks) that I must respond to ... but must pause to calm down a bit. Lest my message be lost in their feeling victimized.

[sheshe2]

122. Your message is important, 1SBM, so yes take your time to calm yourself.

I just got home from work and a lot was posted here while I was gone. There are some responses I too want to address and don't know if I have it in me tonight.

Another sweet young man died last weekend. Michael Brown was murdered heartlessly and needlessly. He was not treated with respect in death, yet left to lie where he was shot and that is just plain ugly.

May he at least rest in peace, I know his family will not.

[1StrongBlackMan]

132. I don't know what's more tiring/frustrating ...

reading of yet another young, Black male, cut down in his prime ... or coming to DU to read how the REAL issue is the looting?

Reading female DUers' experience with street harassment ... or reading of Male (and, thankfully, a very, very few female) DUers complete obliviousness of the phenomena?

Is this really a "liberal" message board? Or, just a spot for straight, white males to whine about/recruit women and PoC to fight against their economic misfortune?

[sheshe2]

143. Oh yes,

the two most maligned and disrespected groups of people on DU, Women and PoC.

Here, 1SBM, read this too it's a tale of two headlines and the focus of the story.

Read more to find out the difference in reporting, AP vs The St.Louis Post-Dispatch.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025370663

[Number23]

144. Honey, you NAILED it. You FUCKING nailed it

Is this really a "liberal" message board? Or, just a spot for straight, white males to whine about/recruit women and PoC to fight against their economic misfortune?

[1StrongBlackMan]

149. Notice I said ...

fight against their economic misfortune

Rather than, fight FOR income equity?

I'm more and more convinced it's not about anyone or anything but their being a/the victim. Why else would they make EVERY SINGLE race/discrimination/Gender/Misogyny thread about them?

[JustAnotherGen]

168. I noticed that

And it is an extremely good way to put it.

[freshwest]

201. No sense of entitlement there, nosiree!

[Squinch]

169. You are absolutely right. And they are blind to their own blindness.

[1StrongBlackMan]

172. Blinded by their need for victimhood ...

as their worldview is built around the notion that their economic misfortune couldn't possibly be a result of their own action/inaction ... which, BTW, is a tacit nod to white male privilege. The rest of the world hasn't been afforded the luxury to believe that our flavor is connected to our economic fortune; but, is very much connected to our economic MISfortune.

[Squinch]

173. My worry is that men in generations much younger than mine are still being raised with that

entitlement, and from what I have learned talking to people on DU, it seems that once you have that entitlement, few lose it or even acknowledge it no matter how clearly it is laid out for them. And even fewer understand, when they are faced with economic misfortune, that it directly results from the efforts of people who look like them to protect their privilege.

My only hope is in the fact that the demographics are such that "minorities" are not minorities any more, and women plus People of Color outnumber white men.

[freshwest]

200. Yes. Jones, Bachmann, LaPierre, Bundy, Rush, Angle and Beck are recruiting now:

Plus Joe "The Plumber" Wurzelbacher, who drove down to AZ to pick off Mexicans coming across the border.

The Patriots say they are in Ferguson assisting the protestors. Guess blacks need to be told how, huh?

Wonder where these saviors were the last fifty years. Well, to be fair, Bundy was cheering blacks as they were picking cotton, he knows all about what's good for the negroes...

P. S. Beck agrees with an OP here that says Obama hasn't spoken correctly on the Ferguson situation.

[redqueen]

210. Oh damn

[rickyhall]

95. If people are dying I call it a war.

The Tea Party IS the party of racism. Racism started it, racism sustains it.

[IkeRepublican]

98. Yeah, well, it's not only black folks.

The media deliberately turns a blind eye by immediately burying the following:

* Police war on black people.
* Black on white hate crimes.
* Special interest funding of the most divisive media outlets.
* Assuring ZERO accountability of bigot lawmakers against all races and classes of people.
* Complicit in destroying what little hard working people put together to defend their wages.

...and that's probably naming only a few.

[Squinch]

171. Oh, buzz off. Honestly, are you that tone deaf?

[freshwest]

202. More likely just historically challenged. After all the Constitution enshrined the concept that

blacks were no persons but property at the start. It took a civil war and many amendments to get that settled - but now we are going backwards in the worst possible way. There has always been a war on blacks in the Americas since they were brought here by force. No other group save the natives have been denied so much. Those that have achieved did so in the face of brutal suppression with only a few decades of progress. We have Confederate philosophy cheered by millions now.

[nomorenomore08]

182. Yes, but this thread is about your first item. Try to stay focused here. n/t

[spanone]

100. thank you sheshe2 k&r...

[Brigid]

101. OK, but what about white people who don't believe any such thing?

I may be British-Isles white, but I'm not blind. The color of the unarmed people in these photos does not escape my notice. Nor does the color of the cops -- at least what you can see of them in all that riot gear. Looks like "war" is the right word to me.

[kenichol]

133. White Privilege

The concept of white privilege as the norm belittles our ability to grow as human beings, not to mention the opportunity to learn from other cultures.

[sheshe2]

147. I don't see it as a concept, I see it as a fact.

That from my white woman's point of view.

[Number23]

146. An extremely important thread. Thank you for posting it

[sheshe2]

161. You are welcome, Number23.

It makes me cry that I have to post it at all. Deep sorrow in my heart.

[VanGoghRocks]

163. Agreed 100%

[lonestarnot]

148. The shit has me so enraged, I've waited to calm down before discussing. Shit is touching every

aspect of life right now.

[Jamaal510]

150. Ditto. nt

[Puglover]

170. Being a boomer

I somehow naively thought that my generation would do better. You know, peace, love all that stuff.

Sadly not. This is awful. And I agree. The media is hardly clueless. They are complicit.

[samsingh]

177. i now believe there is a war against black people

[TheKentuckian]

178. White people, even racist ass white people need to help get this shit in hand

Because it won't be us low hanging fruit forever, it won't be long until your kids are laid out in the street too. Sure it might start with the poors, maybe your kids will escape but their kids won't, the train is gaining steam.

The out police state is coming and is only hastened by your lame wagon circling and empty excuses now because it is "thugs" aka black folks and Hispanics (in some places they might get it worse) but it will eventually gnaw your asses to but by the time that happens it will be too late for everyone and all kinds of people of color will be grieved and forgotten by the time the inevitable "who could have seen this coming?" and full of shit hand wringing comes from the usual corners.

I don't think we need shouting from a convenient soapbox about gun control, black on black crime statistics, black on white crime statistics, the plight of the police and how scary it must be, or anything else but how the fucking cops will deal with the public, cutting back the way too much leave way they have to create situations, dialing back the powers granted to prosecute the failed drug war and anti terrorism, breaking down the blue wall, and real accountability for when they make a mockery of protect and serve.

[nomorenomore08]

183. You should make this an OP. Seriously.

[tazadaqshah]

184. Michael Brown, Color of law and Police brutality

Ferguson Police shoots unarmed black teen 10 times now the media is going to focus on looting rather than the shooting. The color of the unarmed people in the photos and videos does not escape my notice. Nor does the color of the cops at least what you can see of them in all that riot gear. This is out right "war" is not the right word folks? Mean while brands of NBC’S picket and march peacefully. In a few weeks will it all pass over like so many times?
You do not want the truth but I am compelled to shove it in your faces. You want fables and liars to tell you want your itching ears desire to hear.
First things first; stop pretending that the incident with Michael Brown was not racially motivated. Be honest with yourselves if you detest someone of another race admit it otherwise it will manifest itself as it did with this Ferguson police officer

Next, to all of you that spurn another simply because of skin color you are sick and a reproach for much of what is occurring. Yet you are also ponds in a game of white supremacy that create a fissure to prevent you from coalescing to address the problems that bankers, and a defector controlled by bankers have created. While you are quibbling on the lower levels as they have schooled your minds to detest each other over skin color. On the higher levels its all about status. It’s about the bankers debilitating your ability to figure this thing out. Is racism a factor? You are damn right? Is white supremacy a factor? You are right again, but that is a facade for so-called whites until their usefulness expire. It’s all about status and social standing. So-called white racist has been used as ponds to carry out a plan that comes from a higher global elect. You so-called blacks and whites are ponds in this game. The glob controllers are setting the stage for race wars. My question is what are you going to do about this? What is your stance? Acquiesce is an expression of cowardice.

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[Generic Other]

185. My friend Curtis was gunned down by cops when we were in high school

He was pulled over in a car with 2 other teens. All black and all unarmed. No drugs. Nice normal kids. The cop said he got scared and just started shooting through the rear passenger door. He was scared of a skinny wisecracking teenager whose worst crime was bad taste in clothes. Who never ever said anything that didn't make someone smile or laugh. At least not until the day he was murdered by a cop. That wouldn't have happened if it had been a car full of white teens. Not in a hundred years.

[sheshe2]

186. So very sorry about your friend, Generic Other.

It never should have happened.

[Generic Other]

192. I always recall how much more time I have had than he did,

and even today the injustice of it all hurts my heart. I met him in the Youth Conservation Corps. He spent his summer cracking jokes as we dug trails and built lodgepole fences for the Forest Service. A scared cop with a trigger finger and too many negative assumptions about race killed my friend. A kid without a mean bone in his body. I was 16 when that happened. It still haunts me many years later. And more so when it keeps happening to other kids for the same damn reason.

It is like the sadness never goes away.

[myrna minx]

190. K&R n/t

[unapatriciated]

191. sadly it has been going on since the first black man arrived by slave ships.

It will not end till we all stand up and demand for it to end. Demand accountability for those that murder our children.
I may be an old white lady, but my grandson and great granddaughter are not. Hopefully long before they reach their teens we will have seen an end to these horrendous crimes committed by the police.

[davidpdx]

198. They just had Kevin Jackson on CNN

I swear I had to really hold back not to either throw up or throw something at the TV.

[MrMickeysMom]

199. I'm with you, sheshe2

I tend to agree with Mike Malloy when he talks about this. I can't help feeling that were I to have been born with black skin, I'd be dead by now. There's no way I'd want to put up with this shit.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

204. Praise the goddesses for you!!

[sheshe2]

208. ...

[Chimeradog]

205. hi everyone

new here...had to respond as this whole thing makes me sick

Militarized police now. what a disgrace . On Democracy Now the coverage looked like it was 1968 all over again. Another horrible end to the summer, last year we had the senseless Sanford police and Trayvon RIP

[sheshe2]

209. Welcome to DU, Chimeradog.

Thanks for posting on this thread.

[Chimeradog]

211. thank you :)

I love the civility of this forum...and humanity

Look forward to being here, I wont mention a LT forum I was on, but suffice to say the nastiness and vitriol I saw there (in the past 3-4 years) really floored me.


Thank you again and I am happy fstv/Link at least is televising facts about this horrible killing I used to live In S Florida and the Trayvon Martin killing , imo is a complete disgrace to all LE and any politician NOT sanctioning it and prosecuting the shooter.

In NYC Abner Louima (circa 1997), and also the Diallo case, are precedents. I work in legal field. I pray the DOJ comes in and does something REAL about Mo, police and corruption

[sheshe2]

213. Hold on to your hat, Chimeradog.

We are far from civil here. Yet take a deep breath and plunge in. We could use some new blood here. DOJ and FBI are already there. Yes, let's hope that makes a difference.

We have a lot of good and a lot of bad at DU.

Again welcome~

[The Second Stone]

206. There is a war on black people in this country.

The demanding of voter id for black people is a battle in the war on black people.
The shooting of black men is a battle in the war on black people.
The stopping and frisking of black people on the streets of cities is a battle in the war on black people.
The stopping of black people driving is a battle in the war on black people.
The stopping of black people walking is a battle in the war on black people.
The accusation of people being "welfare queens" is a battle in the war on black people.
The refusal to hire black people is a battle in the war on black people.
Gated communities are a battle in the war on black people.

We shall overcome and we shall all be American people.

[kdmorris]

212. I saw this earlier and it brought tears to my eyes

It's a little bit long, but TOTALLY worth the watch. THIS is what black people are forced to teach their sons:

[sheshe2]

214. Make this an OP!

Do it, kdmorris!

Thank you.

[kdmorris]

215. Done!

[sheshe2]

216. Send me the link please...

I am out of here early for work and don't have time to look.

It was a great vid, kd.

[kdmorris]

217. Here you go!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025394152