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meegbear

(25,438 posts)
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 11:43 AM Aug 2014

The Rude Pundit - On Robin Williams; On Depression

1. You who know Robin Williams only from Mrs. Doubtfire and Aladdin onward will never understand how liberating and cathartic his early, unhinged stand-up comedy was, how political and anarchic he could be (and still was, even in his recent stand-up), like Jonathan Winters and Richard Pryor had a baby that dropped acid.



One of the Rude Pundit's favorite memories from his teenage years is sitting at home and watching An Evening with Robin Williams on HBO with his buddy-to-this-day, Tony. He annoyed Tony for weeks after quoting lines from it. Hell, everyone was quoting lines from it or from his movies or "Nano-nano"-ing everyone with spread-fingers. Williams was that ubiquitous, that universal, that beloved, in a way that few, if any, performers are now.

2. The Rude Pundit just watched The Fisher King, his favorite Williams film performance, his most successful merging of chaotic humor and pathos into something genuinely Chaplinesque. It's terrific, weird, and emotional. Other great roles no one will talk about: The Best of Times, as a repressed husband and son-in-law in a working class town; Seize the Day, an adaptation of Saul Bellow's novella, probably his best, least-known dramatic work; and, post-2000, in his faded superstar/indy era, One Hour Photo and World's Greatest Dad, both films where he was consciously wrecking his cuddly, kid-friendly image.

2a. The Rude Pundit never got to see him do stand-up live, but he did see Williams on stage in Bengal Tiger at the Baghdad Zoo on Broadway, giving a fully-embodied performance as the title character, first alive, then dead, wandering around a post-"liberation" Iraq, commenting on the ludicrous world he saw around him. He was quite, quite moving and, as ever, quite, quite funny.

3. Everyone suffers depression differently. Williams had wrestled with it as privately as possible, although he did not hide his alcohol and drug abuse, all of which made it into his comedy. But as someone who has, fortunately, through the power of scrips, conquered a somewhat milder case of depression, the Rude Pundit has learned that something he felt was felt by others who have or are going through it: You sense that a darkness has opened and the floor is tilting you toward that darkness, and you can feel yourself physically sliding into it. You want to stop. You want to climb out. But you can't. It's an awful, helpless feeling. You have to fall in and stay until the floor tilts you back into the light.

The Rude Pundit believes he leveled the floor. He doesn't know what would have happened if he hadn't been able to.

4. This one hurts.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2014/08/on-robin-williams-on-depression.html
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The Rude Pundit - On Robin Williams; On Depression (Original Post) meegbear Aug 2014 OP
K&R. RiffRandell Aug 2014 #1
Williams' stand-up made me laugh more than any other comic's. hifiguy Aug 2014 #2
He was an amazing stand up NewJeffCT Aug 2014 #4
In the late 1970s..... Jade Fox Aug 2014 #3
GOD! This is BRILLIANT! calimary Aug 2014 #5
and what you said. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2014 #7
back atcha Blanche. calimary Aug 2014 #11
just so, calimary, just so. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2014 #13
RudePundit, you are also one of a kind. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2014 #6
I loved World's Greatest Dad. I initially thought it was one of Williams' sappy flicks. valerief Aug 2014 #8
Damn skippy, Rude. riqster Aug 2014 #9
Oooooooh, no! Hepburn Aug 2014 #10
i wouldn't wish anxiety and depression ellie Aug 2014 #12
tis. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2014 #14
Morbidly, the WSJ hints at unfathomable, unimaginable, real world financial woes. proverbialwisdom Aug 2014 #15
depression is no laughing matter noiretextatique Aug 2014 #16
Such a talent. His death really hit me hard as it has so many. raouldukelives Aug 2014 #17
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
2. Williams' stand-up made me laugh more than any other comic's.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 12:19 PM
Aug 2014

Even the sainted Carlin, and that is saying something.

He will be very much missed.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
4. He was an amazing stand up
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 01:59 PM
Aug 2014

I didn't like him originally in Mork & Mindy - I loved Sci-Fi as a kid, and I thought his silly show was an insult to Sci-Fi at the time (as a 12-13-14 year old boy). However, when I was off as a freshman in college and saw his Live at the Met performance from 1985 or 86, I did a complete 180 on the guy. The energy and humor of that performance just blew me away...

Jade Fox

(10,030 posts)
3. In the late 1970s.....
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 01:24 PM
Aug 2014

I did not own (somewhat self-righteously) a TV. However, I would go over to a friend's house ever Monday night (I believe) to watch Mork & Mindy, and partake of Robin Williams' manic, exploding, joyous comedy. He was clearly at the beginning of a huge career.

I'm still reeling from the death of James Garner. Way too many good ones gone this year.

calimary

(81,383 posts)
5. GOD! This is BRILLIANT!
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:05 PM
Aug 2014

I'm posting it on my own thread. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025374157

Thank you for posting it, meegbear, and KUDOS as usual to the Rude Pundit for a remarkable and towering personal essay.

It starts with describing Robin Williams as "like Jonathan Winters and Richard Pryor had a baby that dropped acid" and if that's not enough it goes WAY deep. It helps those of us who may not be struggling with this particular demon (or at this particular time) understand a wee bit of the effect depression has on its sufferers. It illuminates our darkness - as in our being in the dark about the impact of depression on the human psyche. It really does need to be as intimately understood as possible.

Does anybody remember "Stranger in a Strange Land" by Robert Heinlein? The protagonist was a man who returned to Earth after being raised elsewhere by extraterrestrials. We read it in Catholic school in this one rather free-wheeling elective class that explored alternative and speculative literature. The hero becomes a sort of Jesus figure. One of the notable things he does is to introduce a new concept into the lexicon - the verb "grok" (infinitive form "to grok&quot . To grok something is, figuratively-speaking, to know or understand or grasp or "get" or internalize a concept or idea SO completely that it's as though you had eaten it. And it becomes part of your deepest self-understanding.

We need to grok the crisis of depression. Maybe this is part of Robin Williams' legacy. Just one more thing to love him for.

calimary

(81,383 posts)
11. back atcha Blanche.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:34 PM
Aug 2014


Isn't it maybe the loveliest legacy of all - to move people to send each other hugs, even when they've never met! The details of his last hours are just so unbelievably sad and painful to try to wrap one's brain around. Lots of hugs passed around are DEEPLY appreciated.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
8. I loved World's Greatest Dad. I initially thought it was one of Williams' sappy flicks.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:12 PM
Aug 2014

I was so glad it turned out to be a dark comedy.

ellie

(6,929 posts)
12. i wouldn't wish anxiety and depression
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:54 PM
Aug 2014

on my worst enemy. It was a nightmare seemingly without end.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
15. Morbidly, the WSJ hints at unfathomable, unimaginable, real world financial woes.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:56 PM
Aug 2014


Coldplay feat Michael Stipe - In The Sun - Live Austin City Limits - 2005

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
17. Such a talent. His death really hit me hard as it has so many.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 07:30 PM
Aug 2014

And that performance of his, in particular, was and is quite dear to me. It inspired me to try stand-up myself, at the Holy City Zoo to boot. He made it look so effortless. It is quite challenging and one of the most embarrassing things I ever attempted. He will be sorely missed. Thank you Rude.

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