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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums#Ferguson—Police over loudspeakers now: "Please turn off your cameras."
https://twitter.com/BoingBoing/status/499745392716566528MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)They don't want their crimes documented.
Fucking racist fascist pigs.
randys1
(16,286 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)"Please turn off your fascism."
progressoid
(49,978 posts)Wasn't that nice?
theaocp
(4,236 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)onecaliberal
(32,826 posts)AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)And no one gives a shit.
VanGoghRocks
(621 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)malaise
(268,930 posts)Is this Egypt?
This is way over the top. Lots of actions against citizens but no action on the murder.
Holy Shit - look at teargas being fired.
conservaphobe
(1,284 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)this is what America has come too
2banon
(7,321 posts)fuck, is this all happening right now?
malaise
(268,930 posts)I faced enough gas at the campus gate back in the day. Always have a wet towel in a zip lock bag.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)malaise
(268,930 posts)soak, squeeze, roll and bag
HipChick
(25,485 posts)I am so pissing angry right now..
freshwest
(53,661 posts)malaise
(268,930 posts)and very quickly.
Every now and then I look at the fence we jumped running from the first teargas and wonder how did we scale that?
Those were the days. Student protests, strikes and anti-IMF demonstrations.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Wikipedia's scrubbing our history and they now show more anti-abortion and pro-war rallies in the pages than were before, so it's hard to get text.
Some video from when I was there, with the view from my perspective:
With a clip added on when Nixon resigned:
Near the end there are some trees and that was where we got gassed, after everyone had stopped talking and singing. This is how that was reported including the first time I saw John Kerry in public:
I don't ever get down on Kerry. He's been dealing with the beasts of war and brought the truth of Iran Contra, which got many convictions. He was part of the Winter Soldier hearings for which the RW has never forgiven him for putting in the Congresional Record our war crimes, but we are still dealing with the exact same beasts we always have. We left that night and made the journey back home on the bus. The driver made clear he really hated us.
Our neighbors were able to stay longer in D.C. and were part of The 1971 May Day Protests:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_May_Day_Protests
Bu there is no way that the authorities need to gas a residential area like this, they made many sick in Seattle during the WTO.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)back in 1969. Cops love that stuff.
malaise
(268,930 posts)Damn!!!
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)It was at the football stadium. A bunch of people were trying to crash the gates and rather than just let them in (as everyone, including performers, were chanting "let them in, let them in" , the cops decided to throw the gas, which, of course, wafted over the whole place, including those of us who had paid. A lot of people ran down on the field and prostrated themselves on the ground. Chaos ensued. Shortly after, the wind shifted, blowing the gas back out onto the cops, the full moon came up, and Creedence Clearwater came out singing "Bad Moon Rising." It was epic. (Not too pleasant when coming on to the psychedelics, however. )
(The crashers ultimately got in. . )
My first tear gas was 1975.
JustAnotherGen
(31,810 posts)It's this history and experience that makes DU so valuable.
malaise
(268,930 posts)they work
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Israel wants all cameras off, too.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)who says the police has told all the media people that they had to turn off their cameras and recorders! Now the cops are throwing tear gas canisters into a residential neighborhood. The crowd has dispersed but the cops are still throwing tear gas. Amazing and appalling.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)malaise
(268,930 posts)Some poor person with breathing issues will die tonight - killed by cop yet again.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)You can see above the video where it says how long ago it was filmed.
But it was definitely worth watching!!!
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)They hit one of the guys.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)them, like WTF. It reminds me of OWS being attacked all over again.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)All of them.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)the citizens on, like a bunch of provocateurs in uniform with big toys to play with. The cops are trying to instigate problems IMO. It's like they have no training.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)WTF? How is this going to build bridges with the community. National guard needs to go in and detain ALL police in Ferguson. There is no justice in america. None.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)trained on them, and they did basically nothing. Here, the citizens are unarmed and they attack them. In one case they were black, in the other white.
The response by the cops is very telling. IMO the cops want to shoot up the blacks. The cops are totally out of control, a force needs to go in and remove the cops. If not, IMO, this is just going to go downhill more.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)The cops need to leave the area, then the protestors won't get all agitated. It like the cops are begging for an excuse. They are delusional if they think they can come out if this looking like anything other than a bunch of thugs.
JustAnotherGen
(31,810 posts)And the time is NOW for the National Guard.
They need to get these punks under control. Their thuggery knows no bounds.
And you know - these punks? They always get away with it don't they?
*I'm sure you saw what I did there. *
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Now they're out there arresting reporters and politicians. I hope they arrest Rev. Al. That would blow shit up. If they could just arrest somebody important enough to look like shit heels.... Too bad Jesus isn't around to get arrested in Ferguson. I think he would be right there in front. (Still an atheist, but who doesn't like Jesus? Money changers, temple.)
They seem to think that if they can get people riled up, then it shows they are in the right. I want ALL of those cops arrested, and we can sort them out later.
2naSalit
(86,536 posts)Gaza over the last decade. Those protected by tanks and heavy armor provoking children with stones so they can fire on them.
Warpy
(111,245 posts)and that was over 20 years ago when I wasn't nearly as fragile.
I don't know who they're taking their orders from but the police chief is disavowing the arrest of media.
I think it's about time to call in the National Guard to stop the police riot.
I've been through a police riot. They're unbelievably ugly.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)Target practice on citizens, tear gas canister launching practice, armored Humvee driving in tight streets practice. All those weapons can't just sit around unused.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)I heard someone say, "No, the world is going to see what you're about to do."
This police force is out of control. Where is the fucking governor???
ancianita
(36,023 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)PAProgressive28
(270 posts)but somewhere in Texas Mr. Jones is sitting back, drinking a beer, and laughing.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)But hey, enjoy your fantasy. Fantasies are Jones' specialty, after all
freshwest
(53,661 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)And he's a poopy-head too. Mustn't forget that
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)So he's not wrong about everything.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Response to arcane1 (Reply #52)
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freshwest
(53,661 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Don't you see??
Old AJ is a fun source of amusement. I hadn't realized how Hicks' humor makes it even more amusing
freshwest
(53,661 posts)RKP5637
(67,104 posts)rake in $$$$$.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)RKP5637
(67,104 posts)an OP for more visibility.
bobduca
(1,763 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)dembotoz
(16,799 posts)and i hope they are
except maybe on fox
bobduca
(1,763 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)It should NOT be fucking illegal to document what goes on during an arrest or a protest. No Exceptions.
Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)n/t
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)The feds need to give these f%@#kers a few days to straighten up, or lock them up.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)"Tear gas works by irritating mucous membranes in the eyes, nose, mouth and lungs, and causes crying, sneezing, coughing, difficulty breathing, pain in the eyes, and temporary blindness. With CS gas, symptoms of irritation usually appear after 2060 seconds of exposure[1] and commonly resolve within 30 minutes of leaving (or being removed from) the area.[2] With pepper spray (also called "oleoresin capsicum", capsaicinoid or OC gas), the onset of symptoms, including loss of motor control, is almost immediate.[2]
Lachrymators are thought to act by attacking sulfhydryl functional groups in enzymes. One of the most probable protein targets is the TRPA1 ion channel that is expressed in sensory nerves (trigeminal nerve) of the eyes, nose, mouth and lungs.
Risks
As with all non-lethal, or less-than-lethal weapons, there is some risk of serious permanent injury or death when tear gas is used.[3][4] This includes risks from being hit by tear gas cartridges, which include severe bruising, loss of eyes, skull fracture, and even death.[5] While the medical consequences of the gases themselves are typically limited to minor skin inflammation, delayed complications are also possible: people with pre-existing respiratory conditions such as asthma, who are particularly at risk, are likely to need medical attention[1] and may sometimes require hospitalization or even ventilation support.[6] Skin exposure to CS may cause chemical burns[7] or induce allergic contact dermatitis.[1][2] When people are hit at close range or are severely exposed, eye injuries involving scarring of the cornea can lead to a permanent loss in visual acuity.[8]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_gas
What are the odds that an elderly person with a heart condition lives in one of those houses? What are the odds that there is a newborn?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)Until then, fuck off.
Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Thanks for the thread, conservaphobe.
Takket
(21,560 posts)Have the cops even given a reason why these measures are being taken? Are the protesters supposedly rioting or looting or something?
KG
(28,751 posts)HipChick
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Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)and here we are
lovely solidarity
but damn
kath
(10,565 posts)bobduca
(1,763 posts)Peaceful protesters fired upon with rubber bullets and tear gas....
kath
(10,565 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Actually NEVER...this is getting downright creepy.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)They need to go over and fight with ISIS and people of their ilk who get off on brutally oppressing people trying to live their lives. They'd get along just fine, since they have no problem gunning down and using "non" lethal weapons on their own citizens. This is intolerable.
littlemissmartypants
(22,632 posts)Slim chance the streets become camera free.
kcdoug1
(222 posts)Please turn ON every f*cking recording device that is available to you...record every f*cking moment of this absolute travesty of a Police state..... WHERE IS THE DAMN GOVERNOR!
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)...
tblue37
(65,328 posts)wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)maced666
(771 posts)This is how it starts!
Leave those cameras ON
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Gothmog
(145,130 posts)The police was out of control and the press will have fun suing these idiot
ladjf
(17,320 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)abakan
(1,819 posts)No way we are not record every move you make, so deal with it. Murdering bastards...