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MohRokTah

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Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:56 AM Aug 2014

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) MohRokTah Aug 2014 OP
Per the banner on CNN, he had the cigars on him. LisaL Aug 2014 #1
And we belive CNN why Robbins Aug 2014 #3
good point...... chillfactor Aug 2014 #6
There are no cigars anywhere near the body MohRokTah Aug 2014 #8
You can't see what's in the pockets or behind the body. LisaL Aug 2014 #39
You don't have to believe anything. LisaL Aug 2014 #13
Who ya gonna believe, CNN or yer own lyin' eyes? Iggo Aug 2014 #17
That was someone pushing someone else around in the store... wtf, the FPD are making things worse uponit7771 Aug 2014 #2
It was Brown in the video stills, definitely. No doubt whatsoever. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #5
wow..identifying somone by clothes... chillfactor Aug 2014 #9
The combination is unique. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #11
really? chillfactor Aug 2014 #21
The reason it came a week later is because IT WAS NOT A ROBBERY. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #28
Well, as far as conspiracy theory go, I guess it's as good as any. LisaL Aug 2014 #33
This is false on its face uponit7771 Aug 2014 #24
It is more than clothes dsc Aug 2014 #20
Are there any stills from the QuikTrip yet? JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #10
WRONG!! sandals do NOT match, nor does the length of the shorts.. stop stirring shit. uponit7771 Aug 2014 #18
Sandals match precisely. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #22
No they don't, not only that but the length of the shorts don't match... on the ground the bottom uponit7771 Aug 2014 #30
Seriously? LisaL Aug 2014 #38
What sandals? LisaL Aug 2014 #26
All the Video stills prove Robbins Aug 2014 #29
Looks like some type of violent confrontation itsrobert Aug 2014 #31
The shirt looks the same but don't the pants look different to you? (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #35
well you must have exceptional eyes..... chillfactor Aug 2014 #4
See post 5, it was Brown. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #7
I saw post 5..... chillfactor Aug 2014 #14
No need to. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #16
Wow. Iggo Aug 2014 #23
fuckin wow!!!, Those close and that style is in NO WAY unique to one person. You've GOT to be kiddin uponit7771 Aug 2014 #32
Photos taken within minutes of each other. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #37
I agree. The clothes are the same pintobean Aug 2014 #27
Yep, even if it was a robbery (and I do not believe it was) it doesn't matter. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #45
Didnt' they say JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #12
See post 5 MohRokTah Aug 2014 #15
Who said that and when? LisaL Aug 2014 #19
This is just a distraction, anyway, from the policeman's actions. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #25
This. riqster Aug 2014 #47
The still pictures match almost identically to the person that was killed Renew Deal Aug 2014 #34
Speculation, no way does that footage show it is him. Rex Aug 2014 #36
Going by clothing is reasonable and has been used numerous times in making ID. LisaL Aug 2014 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #41
I don't see any dates on these stills Beaverhausen Aug 2014 #42
IT took six days to make up the robbery story. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #48
I don't know why this matters unless it's okay to shoot people in the back? bettyellen Aug 2014 #43
you might have said "it might be him" Enrique Aug 2014 #44
It's definitely him. See post 5. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #46

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
1. Per the banner on CNN, he had the cigars on him.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:58 AM
Aug 2014

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
3. And we belive CNN why
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:00 AM
Aug 2014

Nobody else has said that.

chillfactor

(7,694 posts)
6. good point......
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:02 AM
Aug 2014

and I have been watching CNN before the police chief spoke..no one there has said anything about Brown having any cigars on him...

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
8. There are no cigars anywhere near the body
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:04 AM
Aug 2014

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
39. You can't see what's in the pockets or behind the body.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:13 AM
Aug 2014

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
13. You don't have to believe anything.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:05 AM
Aug 2014

Iggo

(49,927 posts)
17. Who ya gonna believe, CNN or yer own lyin' eyes?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:06 AM
Aug 2014

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
2. That was someone pushing someone else around in the store... wtf, the FPD are making things worse
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:58 AM
Aug 2014
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
5. It was Brown in the video stills, definitely. No doubt whatsoever.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:02 AM
Aug 2014

Video stills:



If you go to this link you can see a picture of Brown's body in the street wearing precisely the same clothing and footwear (I refuse to hotlink the picture for obvious reasons):

http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/michael-brown/#prettyPhoto

chillfactor

(7,694 posts)
9. wow..identifying somone by clothes...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:04 AM
Aug 2014

you would make a lousy eye witness....

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
11. The combination is unique. eom
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:05 AM
Aug 2014

chillfactor

(7,694 posts)
21. really?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:07 AM
Aug 2014

do you know how many teenagers wear shorts, T-shirts, and flip-flops? and why has this come out almost a week later....

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
28. The reason it came a week later is because IT WAS NOT A ROBBERY.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:10 AM
Aug 2014

They had to make up the story. It took a week to do so.

Most likely scenario, store clerk got in Brown's face. Brown intimidated him into getting out of his face. Store clerk remembers the altercation after Brown gets killed, calls the cops. Cops see easy way to make up their story.

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
33. Well, as far as conspiracy theory go, I guess it's as good as any.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:11 AM
Aug 2014

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
24. This is false on its face
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:08 AM
Aug 2014

dsc

(53,397 posts)
20. It is more than clothes
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:07 AM
Aug 2014

it is body type, hair or lack thereof, and the clothes are identical if it isn't him then it is an astounding coincidence.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
10. Are there any stills from the QuikTrip yet?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:04 AM
Aug 2014

I want to look at them.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
18. WRONG!! sandals do NOT match, nor does the length of the shorts.. stop stirring shit.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:07 AM
Aug 2014
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
22. Sandals match precisely. eom
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:07 AM
Aug 2014

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
30. No they don't, not only that but the length of the shorts don't match... on the ground the bottom
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:10 AM
Aug 2014

...of the shorts are on the calfs

In the pic the bottom of the shorts are on the calfs.

The top are in two different places, I see teens where their pants etc like this all the time.

The bottom of the shorts are the biggest tell tale its not MB

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
38. Seriously?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:12 AM
Aug 2014

The length of the short don't match? One photo of the person alive and standing up, the other is on the ground dead.
How do you expect the length of the short to match?

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
26. What sandals?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:08 AM
Aug 2014

Look to be flip flops with socks.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
29. All the Video stills prove
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:10 AM
Aug 2014

Is brown got into altercation with someone In store

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
31. Looks like some type of violent confrontation
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:10 AM
Aug 2014

This gives the police probable cause to stop Brown. But so far, no evidence of the police being justified in shooting him.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
35. The shirt looks the same but don't the pants look different to you? (nt)
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:11 AM
Aug 2014

chillfactor

(7,694 posts)
4. well you must have exceptional eyes.....
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:00 AM
Aug 2014

the pictures are much to grainy to recognize anyone....

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
7. See post 5, it was Brown. eom
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:03 AM
Aug 2014

chillfactor

(7,694 posts)
14. I saw post 5.....
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:05 AM
Aug 2014

no way you can see the suspect's face...

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
16. No need to. eom
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:06 AM
Aug 2014

Iggo

(49,927 posts)
23. Wow.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:08 AM
Aug 2014

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
32. fuckin wow!!!, Those close and that style is in NO WAY unique to one person. You've GOT to be kiddin
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:11 AM
Aug 2014

... me.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
37. Photos taken within minutes of each other.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:12 AM
Aug 2014

The video stills and the shot of Brown's body were taken within minutes of each other. Body type, clothing combination. It's a reasonable ID.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
27. I agree. The clothes are the same
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:09 AM
Aug 2014

as well as the person's build. This also says that the main witness to the shooting is also a suspect in the robbery. However, the young woman witness's story is the same. Brown was shot repeatedly while unarmed, and with his hands up.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
45. Yep, even if it was a robbery (and I do not believe it was) it doesn't matter.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:14 AM
Aug 2014

He had his hands in teh air and the cop executed him.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
12. Didnt' they say
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:05 AM
Aug 2014

Their suspect had on a red tank top?

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
15. See post 5
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:06 AM
Aug 2014

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
19. Who said that and when?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:07 AM
Aug 2014
 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
25. This is just a distraction, anyway, from the policeman's actions.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:08 AM
Aug 2014

riqster

(13,986 posts)
47. This.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:17 AM
Aug 2014

Renew Deal

(85,150 posts)
34. The still pictures match almost identically to the person that was killed
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:11 AM
Aug 2014
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
36. Speculation, no way does that footage show it is him.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:12 AM
Aug 2014

Going by clothing...right...

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
40. Going by clothing is reasonable and has been used numerous times in making ID.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:14 AM
Aug 2014

Response to MohRokTah (Original post)

Beaverhausen

(24,699 posts)
42. I don't see any dates on these stills
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:14 AM
Aug 2014

And why it took 6 days to come out? Utter fucking bullshit.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
48. IT took six days to make up the robbery story.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:17 AM
Aug 2014

1) Clerk gets in Brown's face.

2) Brown intimidates clerk to get out of his face.

3) After Brown is murdered, clerk finds out calls cops.

4) Cops see video. Take stills. Make up robbery story.

The whole thing took a week to put together.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
43. I don't know why this matters unless it's okay to shoot people in the back?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:14 AM
Aug 2014

It will to hateful racists who put no value on his life, but otherwise? No.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
44. you might have said "it might be him"
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:14 AM
Aug 2014

or "i think it's him, but I don't think it was a robbery".

Of course, your false certainty will get more attention so maybe you should go with it.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
46. It's definitely him. See post 5. eom
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:15 AM
Aug 2014
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